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can they get a room

"aziraphale and crowley needed an ending" THEY HAD AN ENDING... SINCE 1990.... end of the world averted they were just gonna hang out forever..... but no yeah we totally needed to reboot this thing in order to have them kill themselves and the entire universe they spend the book and the other 2 seasons trying to save

ohdirtyriver

"for my money, the really big one will be all of Us against all of Them."

SO SPITTING MAD ABOUT THIS i had to edit and repost from x/bsky

am i the only one who remembers this good omens sequel idea that was laid so beautifully at our feet in the year of our lord 1990? that was important enough to be quoted near verbatim in S1? the one where mortals of the world unite cuz we have nothing to lose but our chains??

"ohhh you're upset about the finale because you only care about aziracrow you don't care about the bigger picture" nah man don't pin that on me. i am 40 or 50 years old and i do not need this. you can't gaslight me into forgetting that one of the fundamental charms of GO is that aziraphale & crowley are actually very bad at saving the world, they cock up pretty much everything they try to do and it's only through serendipity (or implied providence??) that their actions end up facilitating HUMANS' efforts to save ourselves. you can't gaslight me into thinking that the universe getting destroyed & recreated on a whim with absolutely zero HUMAN input or agency is a happy ending, or that it's at all in keeping with the spirit of the original story.

the concept of the multiverse got traction in genre fiction via comics where it was introduced as a PLOT DEVICE to reconcile timeline inconsistencies (and an unnecessary one at that; the way to deal with "timeline inconsistencies" in long form serial fantasy is to IGNORE THEM). writers should have never started relying on the multiverse so heavily as a storyline foundation (MCU i am looking at YOU) because the logical end result is to make stories MEANINGLESS! what's the point of fighting for anything if you can just escape to another universe where things turn out better?! "we found each other in every universe" bitch i care about THIS ONE! how does that treacly platitude teach ANYONE anything meaningful or relatable or transferable about real life?!

stand UP! i want the good omens sequel where HUMANITY rises up against this bullshit system and A&C are there to cheer us on. and if you think "oh there's no way A&C could ever have been happy in this universe, this was the only solution" get out of my way cuz if that's the limp attitude you bring when it's a WORLD OF FANTASY FICTION WHERE LITERALLY ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN i do NOT need you around me in this world.

itsineffhazbinle

First time I see that sentence addressed. I always envisioned the final big one as something that involved humanity beautifully again, like in the book. Not Az and Crow being elevated as super-turbo-protagonists, begging the Big Ceo of GO for a new start. How is this groundbreaking, or in the spirit of the original book? Everyone keeps chanting how the System was dismantled and it was the only way, but what A/C did is literally the opposite of dismantling an unjust System while triumphing over it. To dismantle a system through a sacrifice, you'd need to have the power to do so in your own hands. They don't have that. They relied on the System, in the end. And the system asked for their whole universe in exchange for that. God was still in charge, so the finale is basically the System asking you to sacrifice everything you've ever battled for, every minuscule space of universe you've carved for yourself and your loved ones, and then and only then the System will allow you what you really craved for, freedom from it. Except you die, everyone dies. The Big Liberation from Big Corporate, is literally Corporate asking the extreme sacrifice from you: death, suicide, all disappears forever. It doesn't feel groundbreaking, liberating, cathartic, thematically fitting to me. People are lauding the most Corporate Approved BS ending that could have ever been invented. The resistance is basically giving up and bowing to the bigger power, who graciously gives you a sop, to keep you happy. I just can't see this ending as revolutionary and anarchic as others are, if it's God himself granting it and it's basically Corporate sucking all the life out of the universe in exchange for one little request of liberation.

skelligiri

I also want to mention that they were forced into this position AFTER s1, none of it flowed naturally. They weren't ever meant to be the main players. Humans were.

Gabriel wasn't in the first book, he was a character from book 2. I'm not looking for the quote, but it was confirmed. It was also confirmed by the author that the relationship between Gabriel and Beelzebub was first being thought of when the actors showed great chemistry at the airbase scene at the end of s1.

So Gabriel was meant for s3 (accompanying Jesus out of a plane for the second coming), but was written out before that. Him and Beelzebub running off together became an idea in 2018 at the earliest. That's what left the Supreme Archangel position open. In s2, it was implied that the Metatron offered this position to Aziraphale because of the 25 lazarii miracle. Just for s3 to show that miracles can be disabled, so that was utterly pointless and made the Metatron look like a complete idiot, putting the guy who they tried to execute a few years prior in charge. They also could've just written him out of the book of life after the botched executions, when they thought Aziraphale had become native and was no longer an angel, but that was never addressed in s2, so I guess we're gonna pretend that never happened...

And then, after Aziraphale was forced into a position of power by awkward writing, him and Crowley 'give humanity free will' by stripping them of all angency and burning down everything so the world could restart. What happened to mending the world, instead of ending it? What happened to the free will humanity had proven they had, over and over again? What happened to 'suicide is NOT ON', to Sitis wanting HER children because people can't be replaced? Humanity was destroyed along with the 'leads' and we are supposed to find that beautiful???

So, all of Them vs all of humanity wasn't going to happen, because humanity was pushed into a supportive role for the new main characters, which was never the point. The humans went from the focus in s1, to metaphors for Crowley and Aziraphale's relationship in s2, to barely a footnote (and collateral damage) in s3. Because there was never a consistent plot. And the story's underlying message got so messed up in the process that it's become unrecognizeable now. This property deserved better!

cipherexists

bury your gays and replace them with emotionally unsatisfying lobotomised but still gay replicas

yetrop

Too soon?

yetrop

Too soon?

chaosandcardigans

do you think we're together in another universe?

I don't care, I just want you in this one.

vroomvroombrrr

I genuinely can't believe they took this 40 year long love story with one of the biggest and most loyal fandoms to ever exist and in the last ten minutes just straight up killed these two incredibly beautiful characters who only ever wanted to love humanity and each other. The devil was in the writer's room when this atrocity was written.

yowlthinks

This, exactly this. And it was so unnecessary.

I could have forgiven the plot holes, the pacing, the lines that led nowhere, I would have forgiven it all of they at least got their happy ending. Their cottage, their nightingale, their eternity together.

al3n4hetherealangelx

“william fichtner on Top Gear America” but on top of me when???

rylandsgrace

Good Omens (2019 - 2026) I Season 3

wishbonemotel

every time y’all say “I want to fuck that old man” then point at a 30 year old you are introducing an invasive species into the fuckable old man ecosystem

ishowdespair-deactivated2026012

orcboxer

not what I thought they was talkin about

susspirria

gasper casual posessiveness... Jasper keeping a hand on the small of Guy's back or the back of his neck while they walk. Guy pressing against Jasper when they're standing close together or climbing in his lap when he thinks that people are paying too much attention to Jasper.