HelloTalk is not a Dating App.
But try telling the people on there that. Thereās a search by location feature, and Iāve been approached by a few guys on there.
This guy, who has become G in order of irl meetings, but who Iād been talking to before E and maybe even D found me on HelloTalk. He lived in the same prefecture, actually in the same city as E, not too far from me.
He switched us to LINE and started out saying weād be friends. He got excited when I mentioned a friend in a different city, asking if they were American. I reminded him that I was also American. He was more interested in making American friends than anything else. He wanted me to introduce him to people. We talked about travel and about hanging out.
After I got back from my work trip, he said heād show me around his city. We scheduled. My last train home is early so he said I could spend the night at his house if we drank. He asked for my picture. I sent a couple. He said āWow. Beautifulā
I said I wanted to see his face too. He wasnāt that cute, but he also wasnāt hideous. We continued planning. Weād go to the mall and then if we wanted to drink Iād spend the night at his house.
We planned a bit out and over the next few days talked about things like bowling and darts.
Then the meeting day came. I took the train(s) to his station. He asked me to meet him at a convenience store. I went to the wrong one. He asked where I was and then went to one with the same name but it wasnāt the one I was at. It turned out I went out the opposite exit as he was thinking. I found the place he thought Iād be. We met up. He was quite a bit taller than me. We walked back to his car. He drove us to the mall. His driving didnāt freak me out.
We walked around and went to the food court and sat across from each other talking about our love lives. Heād wanted to date an American girl and that hadnāt worked out well for him even though she was the one that initiated things. I told him about A. I told him I was planning to go to a club that weekend with friends. He asked if Iād try to pick up guys. It was very obviously not a date.
We got back in his car, it was dark, he seemed completely at a loss for other things to do. We talked and ages came up and he admitted he thought I was younger than I am. I pretended I thought he was a year or two older than I knew he actually was. The options were for me to go home or go to his house and drink. We decided to go to his house and drink. We stopped at a convenience store and each bought a drink.
At his house we spread out on his area rug and played that card game where you turn two over and try to match them. I won some rounds, he won some rounds, I think I won more but we didnāt really keep track. The loser had to drink. We played Spit. We played the first game again. We had more fun the more we drank. Eventually the game was too hard for our alcohol addled brains.
He knew that I like dancing (thatās why I was going to go to the club) and so he put music on and tried to convince me to dance for him while he laid on his bed and watched. I was embarrassed but I like to dance when Iāve been drinking, so after coming to the agreement that heād pretend he wasnāt watching, I would dance. And then Iād catch him watching and heād pretend he wasnāt. He complimented in a roundabout āit seems as though youāre dancing well but Iām not watching so I donāt knowā way. We did that for what felt like a very long time before I sat down against the bed frame. He tried to pull me up to continue dancing, so the touch barrier was broken.
Then we decided maybe weād just try to go to sleep. He said I could join him in his bed. I laid down next to him. It was a very small mattress. Twin size at the most. We talked a little about past sex partners. We ended up cuddling. And then the cuddling turned into kissing and the kissing turned into lots of touching and more cuddling and eventually clothes started coming off and breathing was heavy and he got condoms out without me having to even ask.
I wondered later if this was the advantage of sleeping with a guy who was still pretty young. A willingness to use condoms. Heās 23. I found out the following day Iām older than his older brothers. We have a 5 year difference.
Anyhow, we proceeded to have really really good sex. I was so starved for physical affection and he just held me for a very long time like I needed, and he teased me like I love, and we spent hours just messing around and laughing and touching and going slowly. With him it wasnāt just about getting his dick wet and cumming. He really made sure I was mentally aroused and physically aroused and was just the best lover I had had in a very long time.
We cuddled so much and I wouldnāt let him go and he was okay with it and maybe even liked it. But somehow we slept without touching. I woke up early and couldnāt sleep. It was very bright and warm in the room. But he was knocked out. Weād ended up separated and I found it impossible to break the touch barrier. After he woke up things were better. It was crazy the difference between how perfectly we got along in bed and how awkward we had been outside of it.
Heād said we could do it again in the morning and after he woke up the touch barrier got broken again and things were okay. We did it again and then we took a bath together-- not just a shower like we had the night before, but an actual bath. We both got in the bathtub and played around splashing cold water on each other and touching and just being super comfortable and nice. It was very intimate. The whole thing was probably one of the more intimate sexual encounters Iāve had, even counting ones that happened inside of relationships.
We scrounged up some breakfast and half watched something while we ate. Then he drove me to the train station.
The Monday after (weād met on a Friday night) he messaged me āthanks for the other nightā
I said that was my line and thanked him for putting up with and answering my selfish requests.
He said it was perfectly fine and asked about the club. I told him how it was that Iād had fun and gotten hit on but hadnāt had any interest in the guy. So I just danced and then stayed up all night in a Karaoke room.
We chatted a bit more and then he told me he was probably going to move to another big city for work. I told him I was jealous and had some friends in that city. He asked if Iād introduce him to them. I said no.
I think in order to understand why I eventually blew up on this guy the way I did, you need to see what kind of conversations we had. Even so you might not understand why. Iāll let you decide.
I asked when he was going --
Me: thatās fast, we probably canāt meet again :(
G: Probably not. Do you want to meet?
G: Huh? You want to meet?
Me: Even if I say I want to meet itās impossible isnāt it? If itās like that, Iām not going to say it.
G: Youāre right. If we could meet itās probably only once before I move.
Me: I donāt think we can even meet once⦠My mom is coming to visit the day after tomorrow
G: oh? How long will she be here?
Me: Yeah, 10 days. Then I have work again the next day.
G: ah, really? Iām off all month
Me: Oh really? Thatās nice--- If youāre moving you need time off.
G: yeah, but my moving date isnāt decided yet.
Me: In that case, I want to meet you again. Ā Is that bad?
Me: I wonder when Ā Maybe itās impossible after all.
G: Yeah, probably! If we did meet again, what would you want to do?
Me: I wonder what Iād like to doā¦?
G: something that feels good?
G: then, you want to meet at night?
Me: we can do it any time~ even not at night
G; yeah lol, do you want to do it today?
Me: I want to but I canāt today. Iām at the DMV and will probably be out until night time. Itās far from my house. And I feel like Iām catching a cold, my throat hurts TT.TT
G: Okay
Me: TT.TT Ā TT.TT
G: [hand covering mouth monkey emoji]
Two days later he sends a message:
Going to [Big Other City] has been stopped after all! Iām still in [your prefecture]!
Me: Really? You stopped? That was something you could stop? But we can meet again now canāt we ^^ Ā Are you sad? Did you want to go?
G: You still want to meet? When?
But in October and November Iām going to be working in Tokyo! Until then Iām going back to my family home! Iām not sad!
Me: Itās okay either way but⦠Itāll be difficult if youāve gone back to your family hours wont it. If I have any luck, Iām going to get a boyfriend before November. If that happens itāll be impossible... Maybe just a one time thing?
G: What does that mean? Do you want to do it again?
Me: What about you? Do you want to do it? It feels like you donāt want to, so I donāt want you to force yourself. I donāt want to do it with someone who doesnāt want to do it with me, and I donāt want to force us into making the time for it eitherā¦
These things are good when theyāre easy. If we canāt do it easily, it wont make a good memory, right? I want to make it a good memory.
When I remember it I want to think āwe had really good compatibilityā or āthat was so fun!ā
If we can do it easily then thatās good, but if itās too difficult I give up, okay?
What do you think? Is it Easy? Difficult?
He didnāt reply for a day so I sent another message, trying to bow out gracefully:
Itās a pain in the ass (mendoukusai), isnāt it? You canāt even give me an answer about it.
Iām sorry! I killed something that was fun -.-;;
Congratulations on a lot of things! We probably wonāt meet again, but if we do will you treat me nicely?
And thanks for everything. Really.
Itās not simple? We can meet in [the big city] or somewhere and do it! Iām still in the same prefecture so we can meet again!
This was the first confirmation I got that he might actually be interested in meeting again.
Then letās meet again, okay? Ā Ā
Sometime ^ ^ Ā Ā
Goodnight~
G: I can meet you next month! Are you busy? (this was the last week of the month)
Me: Iām busy, but Iām not sure how busy. We could probably meet
G: Is that so--
Then letās meet, okay?
G: If we meet letās do [the big city] or your house
Then we flirted and discussed the options-- love hotel, my place, how we both werenāt interested in doing it in a car, he said inside of buildings is the best and then I said I wonder if doing it with someone youāre compatible with is the best. And he asked if we had good compatibility, and I told him yes, it was fun and felt good. And he said that was good.
At the end of the week he messaged me again: Are you free tomorrow or the next day?
I had to take my mom to the airport on one of them and I also couldnāt play late on the next one because of work the next day. I asked if he wanted to meet.
He ignored the question and asked about the afternoon on the day before work.
G: Donāt you want to meet and do it?
Me: I have to do some stuff for work. But I want to meet!
G: I see-- Then I guess we probably canāt meet
But the next morning I was really regretting that I couldnāt meet him and sent him a message saying so.
G: Today?
I moved so youāre really far away now lol
If you want to do it weāll need to do it somewhere else
Me: I canāt do it, I just want to
G: Oh-- If we go to a hotel in [the big city] we could do itā¦
Me: I donāt have the time!
I felt bad for not being able to meet when he tried to coordinate.
Two weeks later I sent him a message:
Me: Yo! Have you already left [the big city]?
Me: Do you still want to meet?
G: I wonder--
Have you come to want to meet again?
lol
Me: Yes. Is that a problem?
Me: are you free next weekend?
G: Iām free, but you live really far away
Me: Oh! I forgot to tell you that I have plans to be in [big city]! Iām actually going in on Saturday but [redacted] and I thought we could meet the next day.
G: Is that so--
But I donāt live in [the big city]
I live in the same prefecture though
Me: Did I misunderstand? How unfortunate {face palm}
But if youāre far from [big city] why did you want me to go there? Beforeā¦Whatever, itās fine. I guess we wonāt meet after all.
Maybe Iāll give up?
G: Because itās closer than where you live!
[this is a second message that came in one minute before I sent my long one, so I didnāt see it until afterwards] Do you want to meet?
Me: Isnāt anywhere closer than where I live? Lol
If itās impossible then thereās nothing we can do about it [shrug]
Iām sorry for bothering you, okay? I wanted to meet again because it really was good. The time we spent together was fun. It became an amazing memory!
I want to meet but I donāt want to bother you :(
G 4pm: Yeah thatās how it is! I can meet, but I donāt have money [lol]
Me 6pm: I understand [crying]
I could probably pay for the hotel--
But wherever youāre coming from the ticket or gas would still cost moneyā¦
G 8:30pm: I could pay that much!
Me 11pm: Do you want to meet?
At this point Iām pretty fed up with his little game of not admitting to wanting to meet and not allowing any sort of plan to be made. I hate making plans and he is dragging this out terribly. Since Iām going all the way to the city I want to meet someone and make use of the second day. I couldāve been using this time to try to set up a real date with someone who might want to date me but instead Iām here asking this dude the same two questions over and over. I get the feeling that he wants me to beg him to have sex with me, and thatās not really something Iām into. Looking back on the encounter he really seemed to get off on me begging, so I feel like he denies thing just for the sake of frustrating me and making me ask for them multiple times.
G: Arenāt you the one who wants to meet? Lol
This just sort of throws me over the edge. Iāve finally had enough of this no you, no you business. And all his hemming and hawing is the way that you behave if you donāt actually want to do something so my pride is starting to hurt. I refuse to beg for sex. I want an enthusiastic partner. I want someone who will agree to meet me easily. If youāre going to make me beg, get me naked and in the same room as you and then play the games.
Me: I donāt want to meet someone whoās thinking they donāt want to meet!
If only I want it then itās fine even if we donāt need to do it.
This has become mendoukusai (bothersome/a lot of trouble/a pain in the ass) -.-
Will you just forget it for me?
And have a nice life!
G: Itās become mendoukusai--
Then thatās fine!
Me: Yes. Canāt you feel it? In 3 days time we canāt make plans. Even though youāre free. Even though the other person is offering to pay. Isnāt it decided thatās it must be mendoukusai?
If itās not then what excuse is there?
If you donāt want to just say it! If you donāt say so the other person wonāt know. Itās not cute. Hiding your feelings is lame and unattractive.
And even though weāre not dating weāre having this unpleasant conversation. Itās mendoukusai.
And that was the end of that.
In rereading this I think I did sort of suddenly blow up at him when he probably thought we were doing a cutesy letās hide our feelings game thing, but I was so so tired of it. I just wanted to finally make plans with him and he was playing the letās wait a ton of hours between replies and then not give an actual answer in my reply game, and we both lost.