keith

Blog reserved for my ramblings; go to my Twitter, Instagram, and Newgrounds for art. Ever-critical asshole— ask me anything.

[mhfkah]

Little Bit of a PSA for Vivziepop's Fans: Please Stay Safe!

This person came into my PMs and is threatening to dox + silence fans of Vivziepop's work on behalf of myself and others, despite being told not to do so. They are encouraging harm against her fans and claiming to do so for me despite being told not to. Regardless of circumstance, I do not endorse threatening the life of others, be it through sui baiting, threatening, or doxxing.

There is absolutely zero excuse for such behavior, especially over online discourse that I have stated has not endangered me physically or mentally. If you are a fan of Vivzie's work, and get a PM from them, please block and disengage. Do not answer it. I cannot stress enough that I do not condone this behavior.

Please block them as a precaution, despite where your opinions lie on her work. This is absolutely unacceptable.

[mhfkah]

Adam character is not going to be treated well.

I don’t believe so, no. I’m not a fan of how Lute cannot be independent of him, even in death. I feel as though it wouldn’t be as big of a gripe if S1 was dedicated to better establishing these characters and getting to know them. She still feels as though she’s an accessory to Adam, who I’m not confident will be a good representation of delusions anyhow.

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It truly is disgusting for her to be acting this way towards victims she claims to care about. I wouldn't even be surprised if this was the result of feeling the high of getting to work on the new Homestuck show coming out.

Disgusting? Yes, but I can’t say I’m surprised. I’d like to stay cordial, but her dismissal of victims time and time again (evidenced by prior outcry and my own experience) is disappointing. Even now, she’s on Bluesky, acting as though the joke where lack of consent isn’t rape.

It’s exhausting. I have many thoughts.

[mhfkah]

Back on here out of the sheer disgust felt by seeing Viv’s current stance on Sir Pentious and his highly-contentious ‘not a rape joke just a don’t consent’ joke. I feel properly vindicated over our little squabble back in April; this is EXACTLY why I had reacted so adversely to her denying another victim’s critique yet again. I knew then that this wasn’t the first time she’s heard this, and that she’d continue to defend the questionable jokes and morale in her show.

I’m tired. Ask me anything.

[mhfkah]

I’ll answer these all soon, I promise 😭 Just feeling a bit under the weather! So sorry

[mhfkah]

The Eternal Bride and her husband, a rather unassuming prince. More redesign wips... have a lot of thoughts on these

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Just a warning a lot of critics do not associate with the person that sent this ask. They originally went by antivivziepopparade and have a concerning parasocial hatred for Vivziepop, even silencing people who are victims of rl child abuse and grape because they’re convinced Viv is a pedophile that needs to be reported, and causing long fights with people. They’re also highly thought of to be the person that mass spammed a lot of critic blogs asking to support them or else “you are racist”. A while back, they said they’d leave the community for their health, only to come back and continue their behaviors, to the point of almost committing suicide. It isn’t healthy.

https://www.tumblr.com/mhfkah/782297587795525633/there-are-people-on-x-that-also-called-me-a?source=share

Also this for more info on them:

https://www.tumblr.com/askhezureviews/778025026847916032/be-careful-with-whoever-sent-this-a-lot-of-other?source=share

I see, I'll look into this here soon! I don't really keep up with this community outside of my own critiques 'nd such. Thank you for the ask!

[mhfkah]

Thoughts on viv's Hitler fanart?

her WHAT

[mhfkah]

Turn anon off. Let's see the people who send you stuff.

But can't you see... it was the stolitz yoai slop slurpers the whole time.....

Jokes aside, I don't mind the cruel anons. Like I said, it just shows these people's true colors. Lots of them prove my point, frankly. I'll turn them off if it starts affecting my mental health.

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Hey man. You’re the GOAT for standing up for yourself and others against VivziePop’s romanticization of coercive abuse and victimization of racist abusers. I applaud you!

THANK YOU! I APPRECIATE THAT!! I'm pretty passionate about this stuff, so I'm happy to see the influx of support!

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Just found your blog and genuinely flabbergasted over how many people are so upset at you like omfg 💀 or if it’s one person constantly harassing you they’re the sad one not you

Whatever the case may be, it gives me material for my pseudo-essay about this fandom's treatment of survivors. Real wacky shit

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There are people on X that also called me a "PSYCHO!" for wanting to protest against Vivziepop and JK Rowling's (theyre not equally bad I just wanted there to be a theme of "anti transphobia" for the protest.) transphobia and they would also say other pieces of slander and insults such as "IDIOT!" and other comments. (This would end up leading me to attempt not alive (this isnt the first time that this has happened to me from this fandom.) last early morning. Luckily, I hesitated so much that I survived.)

The fandom is horrible in general.

God bless you, I know that Vivziepop will never apologize but just know that there is still light in the world and to never lose hope.

-Sincerely, another SA victim who's sick of Vivziepop and JK Rowling's crap.

Thank you so much for the support. I'm incredibly sorry all that's happened to you :( harassment to that extent cannot be good on the psyche. It might be in your best interest to take some time away from this portion of the internet, passion be damned.

Please take care! <3

[mhfkah]

Hey! First of all, I'm very sorry people are being so rude and silencing you here and on Bluesky. I don't much care for Vivziepop either, and she also has dismissed my concerns about the portrayal of SA in HH. I don't fully agree with your take on HB, but it's valid and you expressed it fairly and well. I am a victim of sexual coercion via fraud, deceit, and pressure, so I can definitely see how it'd be jarring.

Hope you don't mind this question and sorry if it comes off as insensitive, it's to understand your pov: how would you have preferred Vivzie respond? Would there have been any other way she could have approached that that would have left you more at ease? How do you think she should have approached the redemption arc?

Hi there, sorry for the delay on this one. Had to think it over a fair bit. I thank you for the support, and love to hear the insight of other victims! As stated prior, take away what you want from this show— I will always prioritize the mental health and safety of those similarly affected. While I still believe it is harmful, I'm glad you can find comfort or enjoyment in something I personally cannot.

With that said, how should she have responded? If I'm frank, not at all. There is no reason you, as this large of a creator, should be responding back to targeted jokes online. I do not even have a fraction of her influence, and I can't think of a time I've blown up on a follower because they made a mean jab.

As for my genuine (albeit heated) critique, I'd have preferred just a simple PR response. Once you receive direct criticism from someone that personal, the best thing you can do is thank them for their insight, express sympathy, and move on. A simple 'I'm sorry that happened to you. Thank you for the feedback' would have sufficed. When you're this online directly as a creator of a popular IP, you need to step back and remove yourself from it. Criticism against your work isn't personal unless you let it be, and she is consistently allowing it to be by her immature replies.

As for a redemption arc, this could warrant a new post entirely. However, to keep it short, I think Stolas needs to sever himself from Blitz. There needs to be proper acknowledgement by both himself and the narrative that the way he's treats Blitz isn't right. Any screentime dedicated to Stolas should be to him rectifying his abuse of power; not him slowly acting lovey-dovey and expecting a shift in attitude from Blitz. As long as Stolas is with him, he will be obsessive and feel entitled to both his company and body. I can go into depth on this, though I don't want to make this post too long.

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as a long-term person within the critical 'community' [Using that term lightly] that faced harassments from fans, stans, and other critics despite being a CSA survivor myself, thank you so much for being honest and open about this kind of thing. Even when v1v is faced with someone willing to engage in a healthy critique of her work over 'Hey it's pretty messed up how you swept all of season 1 under the rug for wattpad yaoi pretty harmful to portray gay people this way and especially gay abusers to just suddenly bend the plot over backwards to excuse him' she STILL can't appreciate or hear other peoples' viewpoints and just defaults into 'well its MY fiction and MY characters and OTHER people sympathize with sto/lass so THEREFORE just because you're a minority and opposing opinion means I DON'T have to listen to you!' is so.... childish? embarrassing? BAFFLING???? I don't understand this womans logic shes in her thirties and can't even handle CONSTRUCTIVE criticism HOW did she buy herself into the industry that is about teamwork and listening to others' inputs i don't understand.. v1/v aside, please continue to be a critical and please speak your peace and opinions over the dogwater spineless shows as shameless as the writing is it needs to be addressed how harmful and openly toxic the fandom interprets these shows it's so upsetting especially when victims can't even engage in a critical discussion just to be shot down over 'well it's not YOUR show so YOU should keep your opinions to yourself :)' i'm tired of keeping critical takes and actively engaging conversations discussing how harmful, worrisome, and downright disrespectful all the themes and subtext of both the shows are. Please don't stop, you have the support of other people who have gone through the same type of things as you have and we NEED to support one another against the endless toxic positivity that is the fandom... much hugs and love I hope you have a nice day and I'm sorry if this ask was exhausting...

-s0da_an0n-

Not exhausting at all! Thank you for the insight and support <3

I cannot wrap my head around closing yourself off from all venues of criticism under the guise of, 'oh well, it's my story, so what I say goes'. This sort of mindset only works if you are a novice engaging in a hobby with no interest in broadening your reach or improving your work. Once you have that sizeable of an (impressionable) audience, you can no longer disregard the opinions of people telling you your work is harmful.

If you have a platform, you need to consider what it is you're pedaling. You can and will be held responsible for your actions and choices made; this isn't exclusive to Vivziepop. Your fans look to you for inspiration and will lift ideas from your works. They aren't going to think twice about whether or not it's wrong because they idolize you and your body of work. I'd be going this hard on any other creator if they were making the choices she was.

It's just frustrating. You have younger, fledgling creators just breaking into the sphere taking harmful aspects from her work and running with it. There have been takes made in earnest about how Blitz' lack of consent was just, 'part of their game', and that Stolas came from the purest of intentions and is simply blissfully unaware of their class disparity!

If the critique does not reach her, then I hope it shifts some current fans' opinions. Either or would be lovely.

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I saw screenshots of your conversation with Viv before I found your blog; just wanted to say thank you for speaking up for us despite all the hate and the dismissive reaction you got from Viv 🫂💖 I love all your insightful critiques of the show and its characters, and I'm glad you're documenting the treatment of survivors and victims within this fandom

Thank you tons! I'm glad you've found some solace in my rambles here. I do think it's important to document these things as I've never seen an online space (that claims to be a safe one) be so vitriolic towards victims who disagree with them. It needs to be preserved and remembered, frankly.

Hope you're doing well, anon!

[mhfkah]

any thoughts on charlie's character design and her 15 colors?

It made me wanna design her so thanks man

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I'm a bit biased because I have Deadly Sin characters I adore, but I kind of like when those characters don't entirely fit their Sin. Like, I don't think Asmodeus has to be a rapist or anything to be Lust. At least depending on the intention of them being Deadly Sins.

If they're the incarnation of the Sin, then yeah, it'd be weird if they didn't also have the worst traits (like with Helluva Boss, it's weird that Beelzebub stops Blitzø from... overindulging because he's sad?). But if they're just the ruler of the Ring that shares those traits but not fully embody those (like when they're fallen Angels and not personifications of those Sins), then it can still fit.

Me and my friend have a set of Deadly Sins that, while there's definitely bad traits they each have (especially the 'big three', Beelzebub, Satan, and Lucifer), but they're definitely not JUST evil (especially since our version is more like Order vs. Non-order and not Good vs. Evil). They were once angels and rebelled not for power, so they're not just hateful and deplorable (they, uh, definitely don't have only good traits, though. Especially Beelzebub and Satan, with Asmodeus once being worse than he is nowadays. Lucifer definitely doesn't have his good moments either. I'd say the least bad is MAYBE Belphegor in our universe.)

Sorry for this rant, and sorry if it seems aggressive in any way, I just love rambling and get passionate about me and my friend's characters :)

Thanks for the input— sounds like your story's going well. The great thing about these stories is the fact it is all open to interpretation. Anyone can take source material (i.e. the Christian mythos and other Abrahamic texts) and turn it into whatever they’d like. However, as with all fiction, I expect them to abide by the rules of their own established universe.

It's been established that in Viv’s universe, there is no War in Heaven. The inciting incident that cast the other angels down to the fiery conflagrations we all know and love did not occur here. As such, the audience is left confused as to how exactly the sins got here under the assumption that they, too, fell. There is one line that could hint towards their plight, but that could just as easily be read at them referring to Lilith's formation of Hell.

"[…] I knew that guy before he was anything."

This line is said off-handedly by Asmodeus in S2, E7: Mammon's Magnificent Musical and Mid-season Special. This could imply that they knew each other prior to their speculative fall, but it could also just as easily refer to their time as fledging demons in the beginning of Hell's formation. No where in the writing of either show does it give an adequate enough implication that these demons are, in fact, fallen angels. It would make more narrative sense (in the world Vivzie herself has set up) for each respective sin to be hellborne. And if they're hellborne (which I stress makes more narrative sense here), why would they not be emblematic of their sin?

Each sin (excluding Lucifer) has no indicators in their designs that they were once angels. If we are operating under the assumption that they too were high-ranking angels, why are they so visually different from every other humanoid angel we have seen thus far? Lucifer and Vaggie stay relatively the same, save for a hue shift, so why would each sin be so radically different in appearance post-fall?

Even if they were fallen angels, and just fell at a different point in time, why would they be seemingly disinterested in Lucifer? The other sins don't seem to think fondly of him; why would they roll their eyes at his mention in Mastermind if they suffered the same fate?

Does this honestly read as respect for someone who aligns with your viewpoint that both systems are corrupt? Do they look like they're even remotely similar to the appearance of a once high-ranking angel akin to Lucifer? It seems more like annoyance at someone foreign to your world stumbling in, taking over, and proclaiming themself your new leader. It's incredibly confusing.

Overall, while working in a vacuum, them being fallen angels in this universe makes absolutely zero sense to me. If they fell for similar reasons to Lucifer (i.e. rebelling against Heaven's supposed corruption), why aren't they touched on whatsoever in Hazbin Hotel's picturesque storybook retelling of events? Why doesn't Lucifer vaguely allude to the other angels' falls when explaining to his daughter that Heaven is corrupt? Why are they so visually different than other fallen angels? There are so many questions that can be raised here... none of which are answered within the show(s).

This is why you cannot sacrifice establishing your world over serialization. Since Hazbin Hotel's first season prioritized its high-stakes story over proper establishment of its worldbuilding, we're left confused as to how this world operates, and how close this universe (and its respective spin-off) is to the original bible's mythos. I wish Hazbin Hotel's first season focused on the world and characters as opposed to a high-stake war on Heaven.

I'd love to be able to tie these two together neatly and logically, but I just can't. Helluva Boss suffers greatly from being set in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel, but that's my take on things.

I'd love to hear you guys' thoughts.