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thinking about will being framed as the exotic matter with an x over his heart, and his heart (mike) being the builder of the bomb set to destroy the exotic matter.
I’VE SEEN THIS FILM BEFORE
Will’s memories of his love for Mike have been erased! Mike will get them back!!
“I was looking for answers in somebody else..”
“but I had all the answers.”
“I just needed to stop being so goddamn scared.”
“Scared of who I really was.”
there's absolutely no fucking way that “you think I'm a monster too” is winning over “but you make me feel like I'm not a mistake at all, like I'm better for being different.”
there's absolutely no fucking way that “its not fate, it's not destiny, it's just simple dumb luck” is winning over “it was the best thing I've ever done.”
there's absolutely no fucking way that “you never say it” “i say it” is winning over “i didn't say it” “you didn't have to.”
there is absolutely NO. FUCKING. WAY. That “she’s gonna realize that she doesn't need me anymore” is winning over “so, yeah, I need you, mike, and I always will.”
It's so obvious which ship should be endgame???
They just came out of lovers lake 😋
This shot is so important to me. Will is in focus.
It's not supposed to be about him. It's a moment about Lucas and Max: they're bickering cutely, as Dustin tries to radio his girlfriend.
This scene is about relationships. The relationship between Dustin and Suzie, and the relationship between Lucas and Max. Even the "ghost" of Mike and El's relationship as they're notably absent.
Will isn't in a relationship; he's the only party member who isn't at this point in the story.
And yet, the lens focuses on Will for just a brief moment.
Look at the wistfulness in his expression. The admiration. The quiet ache. He wants this so bad. To be loved, and to love someone in return without fear.
He even continues to watch them as they walk away together, hand in hand.
Will Byers is the most romantic character in Stranger Things.
And that's my biggest "byler proof" (because everyone has their favorite evidence) — romantic characters are supposed to find love.
He's been written as a loverboy and romantic hero. There's only one way to go from there. Predicting a romantic union between Mike and Will is just basic pattern recognition and media literacy, as we've stated many times before.
This shot just takes the cake for me. It makes it so obvious.
do you now?
Season 2 Mike definitely saw Max as a love rival for Will
Another Byler from Mike Wheeler's POV analysis—(Unrequited love trope edition).
Walk with me.
Sometimes I think about how when the party went trick-or-treating Mike specifically told Will that he, "should have checked with him" first before letting Max join them.
It's just a very peculiar moment. Why Will?
Even Will was confused by this, lol.
We know that Mike doesn't like Max in season 2 (for reasons we'll look into more), but why did he make this Will's problem/ responsibility? Especially after only knowing of her existence for 2 days at this point.
He wasn't angry at Lucas or Dustin—or at least, he didn't expect them to come to him for permission—otherwise he would have said something to them, too.
It was Will who he felt betrayed by and upset with.
Heck, go ahead and take a second look at the first screenshot provided above.
Does Mike look angry to you?
No—he looks forlorn.
Let me break it down for you:
I'll start by saying when the party learned of MADMAX the screename, they were all equally interested in knowing who it was.
But when Max is introduced to us as a character (and revealed to be a girl), we get markedly different reactions between the boys.
In the first frame, they have no idea who she is or what her name is. All they see is a new girl. (Played by Sadie Sink mind you, who is very pretty).
Look at Mike's face: he already looks sulky.
The second frame is after they learn her name is Max. Once again, all four boys show some level of interest, but Mike remains sulky.
Then we have the recess scene in which the boys are watching Max, which is very interesting.
Consider the blocking and body language in this frame:
Look at Will here: he's just as interested in Max as Lucas and Dustin are (even if his interest is not based on attraction). In fact, he's the main focus of this frame for some reason.
Mike is the only one who hangs back, and his body language is completely different from the other three (hands in pockets, meaning he is distanced). He has no interest whatsoever and his facial expression appears agitated.
Mike feels like the odd one out here.
Will fits in.
When they "lose the target" Will is the one who spots her and reinitiates the "watching." Once again, Will is the main focus of this shot and even seems to be showing the most interest; his expression is bright and engaged.
He runs with Lucas and Dustin to the wastebin while Mike trails behind begrudgingly, not wanting to be left behind.
It begs the question: why is Will the focal point among the four boys in a scene about looking at a girl, if he was never intended to be a love interest?
I argue it's because we're seeing this interaction from a very specific perspective—the perspective of Mike Wheeler, who is standing back and observing.
It's also worth noting that Will's change in demeanor and energy here is extremely apparent.
He is noticeably withdrawn and low in spirits this season due to his PTSD (both literal and metaphorical if you count the MF as a metaphor for trauma).
And Mike notices. He’s the one who points out that Will had been "quiet today"—a detail the others miss because they don’t watch Will the way he does.
Notice that Will is disengaged during the science lesson (before Max arrives), while the other three are nerding out. Will previously participated in the science fair—it typically interests him—but his mood is very low.
Then compare that with his immediate engagement when Max walks into the classroom, and the level of interest he showed during recess. Mike would certainly observe this shift, paying as much attention to Will as he does.
In fact, once the distraction of Max has passed and the principal comes to collect him, Will's body language retreats again; shoulders hunched, eyes downcast.
What conclusion do you think Mike would come to based off these few short interactions?
(And these are the only interactions Mike sees between Will and Max before trick-or-treating together the next day. Mike hasn't even spoken to her yet).
From Will's perspective, this girl is just a novelty: a light-hearted distraction from everything else going on, offering a spot of normalcy.
But from Mike's perspective, this is a pretty new girl showing up out of nowhere and immediately raising Will's spirits: something he felt like he failed to do.
And so it brings us to the trick-or-treating scene, in which Will (apparently) joins Dustin and Lucas in their enthusiasm for Max joining the party, while Mike hangs back and then begrudgingly follows, not wanting to be left behind.
Are we noticing the pattern?
Then we have Mike's confrontation with Will (this happens after Will is seen filming Max, btw). He tells Will he should have checked with him about Max joining them and that Max is, "ruining the best night of the year."
Uh... what? What did she do?
He then storms off: inentionally leaving Will behind this time.
(He wants him to know how that feels).
Following this interaction, Will has a big scare with the MF—and of course, it’s Mike who finds him first. Despite his mood, Mike is still attentive and protective.
Mike behaves possessively when he finds Will, not wanting the others to get involved. He takes Will “home” (his home) so they can be alone.
What follows is a scene that, put simply, is about reciprocation.
Interestingly, Mike’s attitude toward Max shifts after this scene with Will—he doesn’t have anything to say about Max joining the party in the AV room to look at Dustin’s pollywog.
This is the girl who apparently ruined Halloween.
You’d think he’d still be unhappy to see her.
But after that conversation with Will in his basement, Mike feels more secure and reassured about the state of their relationship.
He's no longer jealous.
So now, it's apparently fine for Max to be in the party.
Well, that changes again.
The next notable interaction is after Mike realises the pollywog is from the UD. Mike immediately goes into protective mode. It’s not Will who storms into the classroom to grab the trap—it’s Mike.
It’s also (presumably) Mike who locks Max outside of the AV room when they discuss this, yelling at her that she can’t come inside.
When she opens the door anyway, the pollywog escapes—and (of course) Mike blames her. No one else points fingers.
Now, the boys were hesitant to reveal any information about the UD for obvious reasons, but here we see the recurring theme in the Mike/Will/Max triangle: Mike’s protectiveness (and slight possessiveness) of Will.
So, a recap of Mike’s perspective so far:
First gripe: You’re hogging Will’s attention (possessive) Second gripe: You’ve compromised Will’s safety (protective)
Then we finally have the confrontation between Mike and Max:
It literally starts with Mike telling Max to leave because she's in the boys' room. (Similar to his "boys only" comment in season 3).
Let's not get it twisted: When Max finally asks Mike why he's been treating her the way he has been, he deflects.
Mike, who always has a ready opinion and is not afraid of confrontation, is not comfortable sharing the real reason why.
It’s commonly believed that Mike simply didn’t like Max because her presence reminded him of El’s absence—and I see it—but after a closer look, I no longer agree.
Firstly, I don’t think it’s fair to assume that Max would remind Mike of El (or rub salt in the wound of her absence) just because they’re both girls. Max and El couldn’t be more different—physically or otherwise—and that distinction feels intentional.
Mike would never compare Max to El, because to him, El is incomparable—a superhero who saved his (and Will’s) life.
Also, in Mike’s mind, El is still in the party—he lists her name off with the other members.
Max wouldn’t be a replacement.
He literally just stated that she would be an addition.
Secondly, Mike never actually makes this connection himself. He simply offhandedly mentions El when he’s trying to convince Max she’s not needed.
So why does he want her to stay away?
And when El is finally introduced (both through conversation and literally) to this dynamic, what happens?
Mike and Max begin to get along.
They share a smile.
If Mike’s issue with Max had anything to do with El, the scene wouldn’t have played out this way.
It’s classic misdirection.
The misdirection is so obvious they lean into it—even having El herself misinterpret Mike and Max’s relationship, becoming jealous.
She mistakenly assumes Mike is interested in Max, just like Mike mistakenly assumed Will was interested in her, too.
They’re giving the audience a warped perspective, urging us to look behind the curtain.
Mike’s behaviour towards Max fits perfectly into Byler’s shared arc in Season 2: Mike is attentive, protective, and possessive over Will, while Will—consumed by the MF—can’t fully reciprocate that attention.
The “crazy together” scene is the only time Mike receives the same energy back from Will the entire season.
I feel like people forget that when they talk about how cute Season 2 was for Byler. Cute from Will’s perspective, maybe (supernatural plot aside)—but for Mike?
We get multiple shots of Mike staring at Will or noticing his absence (Mike staring at Will’s empty desk being the most obvious example).
That’s called pining.
Will does not invite Mike to his house or show up uninvited—Mike does that. Will does not hold Mike’s hand—Mike does that. Will does not watch Mike closely or check in on him constantly—Mike does that. Will does not become possessive of Mike’s attention—Mike does that.
In fact, they play into this unreciprocated affection trope pretty blatantly—when Mike bares his heart to Will, tearfully recounting their first meeting, Will quite literally cannot respond because he’s possessed—even if he wants to.
Not to mention—Mike’s recount of their first meeting is also (thematically) about reciprocation:
“I asked if you wanted to be my friend. And you said yes. You said yes.”
Mike puts emphasis on the fact that Will said yes: the fact that Will reciprocated his feelings.
That is what he wants.
He wants validation that Will feels the same.
That Will won't leave him behind.
And what happens at the end of Season 2?
From a Byler perspective, this season is about Mike’s (seemingly) unrequited love for Will—and it directly influences Mike’s (very different) behaviour in Season 3.
So yeah.
Mike didn’t like Max because he was jealous, and coping with feelings for Will he feared were one-sided—and in his mind that was confirmed as true.
Why wouldn’t he be relieved to see El at the snowball dance?
Why wouldn’t he kiss her?
Why wouldn’t he immediately start dating her and pushing Will away?
Doesn't this seem familiar, a pattern with Mike? ESPECIALLY in season 4. Once he read the most recent letter from El that Will was acting weird, hiding a painting because El assumed it's for 'a girl he likes.' Mike gets INSANELY jealous about it, especially when at the airport, Will ends up not gifting Mike the painting right away which in his mind is confirmation that the painting wasn't for him, but for 'that girl he likes.'
Then Mike sees how Will has mentioned / is looking in the direction of Angela from two scenes in Rink-O-Mania (Will only looking out for El in those scenes/clocking her lying) and Mike is observing Will like crazy the whole entire time, probably thinking "See?? He really does like this Angela girl. Probably brought that painting along with him because she'll be here."
Mike gets SO jealous and cranky as hell if he thinks Will isn't reciprocating his feelings, and it's so blaringly obvious to me. It isn't until they have heart-to-heart moments in a room alone that they actually work things out and thus Mike feels more secure.
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, MICHAEL.
If the teaser showed no spoilers and byler wasn't shown at ALL in the teaser then what if that just means that byler scenes would be a spoiler....
if mike’s relationship with will isn’t different than his relationship with dustin and lucas then why did he say that meeting will was the best thing he’s ever done
everyone: i hope will kisses mike in s5 !!!!
are you sure it's going to be will?
OH i am SUCH a mike kisses will first truther
something about mike looking at will and not the painting in this specific shot makes me go insane
there's something very very special about mike being an ass to basically everyone, having some attitude with everyone but reserving his sweet, apologetic, sensitive side for will. and there's something special about will being selfless, sweet and quiet around almost everybody but reserving some attitude and sarcasm for mike. something something they complete each other and feel safe to be the parts of themselves that show their vulnerability around each other - very cheesy but hell
its true
The fact that Bylers are called delusional when Steve spent the whole season 4 convinced that Vickie likes girls, even when he found out she had a boyfriend, just because she paused Fast Times at 53 minutes and 5 seconds! And guess what? He was right! He only had one clue and believed it with all his heart! We, Bylers, have WAY more clues but we somehow are seen as being more delusional than Steve!
I literally think they wrote that for Steve to echo us Byler fans and how we notice all the smallest details about a gay ship. The Duffers know EXACTLY what they were doing with this...
A sword for Mike
Like others have pointed out, the Castle Byers in this flashback is the one we see in the UD (no microscope when Joyce and Jon look for Will) So, if the UD is really made of different memories, then the Castle Byers with the sword is the one where Will is attacked.
But there's something weird going on there. 1) I don't see any sword when El finds Castle Byers, but inside, it is the Castle Byers with the microscope, so the one with the sword (more about this in a second)
2) The creature is not alone. It's too far from Castle Byers to destroy it, and Will sees a shadow. We still don't know what really happened there!
I also noticed something in S3 that could be connected to that specific moment.
I don't think Max's line "Mike will come crawling back to you in no time, begging for forgiveness" is just there to show that Mike actually looks for Will. I think the "crawling back" is connected to going back in time (maybe through memories?) Steve "crawling backwards", Max and El being brought back, El being dragged on the floor in the Rainbow Room, before she sees the past. And when Mike "comes crawling back to Will, begging for forgiveness", he finds him at Castle Byers.
In S3 Max and El are called "a different species" by the boys because, they say, they act on emotions -> Max mentions Mike crawling back in no time -> because "time is funny and emotions can speed it up or slow it down. We're all time travelers..."
Mike's photo in the shot when El mentions emotions and time travel
So, I think the line about him crawling back, finding Will at Castle Byers, and the sword, mean that Mike will save Will
This could be another clue: when El finds Will, before Castle Byers is destroyed, we see everyone's reaction but Mike's. Interesting choice, since he spends the whole season trying to prove that Will is alive.
No reaction, no sword (because he "has it", or, he will have it? He will be there, in the UD. Well, I don't know if he'll really use it, but I think the sword represents Mike)
El gives him his watch, and behind her the words Home and Time
The title of the first episode of S5 is The Crawl, and the first scene is Will singing (imo) in the UD
But Mike must hurry, because in the S3 campaign, which is paralleled to the one in S1 (The vanishing of Will Byers, The case of the missing lifeguard) there's a trap, a distraction, an ending that is not good, not the real ending ("No, let's finish for real"): dying and then living on as heroes in someone's memories. Mike is even mocking Will here, the only time it happens. And we see Will angry for the first time.
And what does he do? He yells: "FORGET IT, Mike!"
Then he goes to Castle Byers and destroys his memories. Castle Byers is destroyed, like it was destroyed in the UD (Mike was too late)
Another parallel between the campaigns: Mike doesn't understand Will in S3 (before Will destroys his memories and senses that the Shadow is back) and he doesn't understand what he's saying about the roll (before Will vanishes)
They need to communicate, let their emotions guide them, through time and space, and they will find each other. Getting to Mike is the key, and he can't be late anymore, or we don't know what happens if Will doesn't remember anything. If there's nothing left and Joyce's boy is gone
Mike tries figuring out his feelings while the word "boy" is literally passing by behind him.
No wonder this scene took all day to film.
Credit to @dinitride-art for pointing out the word "boy" splashed all over this scene from the Surfer Boy logo! See a ton more of this in part 14 of their lighting analysis here!!!
Edit: just made an additional post here going over all the times the "boy" shadow is visible in this scene!
El and Mike are in front of what symbolizes a bust-open CLOSET (And other Byler thoughts from the teaser)
Fisrt off, they are posing in front of what looks like an uninstalled door, which maybe closes/covers whatever they're sitting on. That's some obvious coming out of the closet symbolism, folks! In fact, the door has been BUST OFF ITS HINGES.
Now, I'm not a body language expert, but I definitely get a clear GUT REACTION when I look at this shot.
To me, El's hand on Mike's neck feels like "I understand" body language. Her focus isn't on closeness/intimacy/kissing, but keeping some arms-length distance because she's focused on maintaining eye contact, listening , showing him she's listening, providing support, and still showing she loves him deeply.
Meanwhile, Mike's hands are cupped together and below him, as if he's asking for forgiveness, and saying something he finds difficult to say.
So perhaps this is Mike after finding out about the Painting Lie (and how Will's lie evoked in him feelings for El that he now knows were misdirected). And Mike is explaining that he loves El but isn't IN love with El.
We cannot know for sure! (All the shots from the teaser were so quick and without context!) The one thing that's certain is that they are ACTUALLY having a heart-to-heart scene, which after s4 for Milev*ns feels like rain in the desert. (When there were 5 heart-to-heart scenes for Byler in s4 they certainly didn't see Byler endgame lol.)
Theoretically it could be a step forward for their romance, but all the set-up that we Bylers know about mean that it wouldn't actually make much sense. If the show stays true to these characters, the best Milev*ns can hope for is them taking a break.
And HELLO, out-of-the-closet symbolism!
Almost certainly a nightmare. And most definitely not Will's actual death. (Why would they spoil his death in a teaser? Like REALLY?)
But YES the Duffers making us think Will will die all season CONFIRMED.
Will seems to be deliberately closing his eyes. He doesn't seem to be possessed by someone else. This suggests he's consciously going into a mindspace, in order to use powers, or delving into his buried memories. Both possibilities suggest a possible supernatural arc for Will.
And he cried tears right before this shot. There are tear streaks on his face. =( Who knows what is prompting him to do this??
-teambyler