since i forgor everything after nearly ten years away, revisiting the early phantom troupe interactions through yorknew really puts into perspective how much the troupe’s original members function as a cult in a suicide pact. none of the OG have ever been shown to have earthly attachments outside of each other. i think that’s by design! if they’re not sowing chaos and killing, then they’re not getting sarasa justice. they’re not doing what they agreed to when they barely hit puberty. it is, in a sense, a betrayal of the ideals they agreed upon when they believed living wasn’t worth it.
but nobunaga’s character proves that they do want earthly tethers! he wanted to adopt gon as a protege and friend, but could not do it out of the confines of his relationship with the troupe. now he’s making moves on hinrigh, but any romantic intentions are predicated on the notion that no one can betray the phantom troupe even though hinrigh thinks he already betrayed him through his deal with who he thought was hisoka.
and now that we know that bonolenov not only bamboozled hinrigh but also killed hinrigh’s friend, the self-cannibalizing structure of the phantom troupe will inevitably consume nobunaga as well bc eventually, it will come out that hinrigh betrayed the troupe, even if hisoka literally had nothing to do with it. it wouldn’t surprise me if bono or chrollo killed hinrigh by virtue of hinrigh being a nuisance.
all because what? some kakinese mafia twink thought he could avenge his dead friend? the reality of the phantom troupe is that it won’t allow you to love or be loved by others, even tho nobunaga is literally human and has shown that he can love.
but to be in the troupe means paying with blood. sometimes your own, but mostly with the bonds you could have forged. these people literally never grew up bc of their grief. now they can’t love people outside of the troupe, get married, or be parents bc they think it’s a betrayal of their principles.
but sarasa would never have wanted this for them, and that’s what really hits. these people are capable of love, but won’t love others outside their suicide club bc they think they owe it to sarasa. but they don’t! because grief is something you can move on from!
hello! you know that young pt artwork you made in like march? i would love to see the rest of the pt babies ♡ no rush!
hello! thanks <3 i'm not drawing them as much currently cos my brain can only handle so many things at once lol but i can share some of my wips and sketches!
HxH Genei Ryodan is such a masterclass in humanizing villains, honestly to a ridiculous degree. They're legitimately terrifying, their crimes are cruel and inexcusable, the violent acts they commit are nearly always played seriously and condemned by the narrative, and yet I find myself rooting for them in every scene they're in.
It's not even the sad backstories some of them have, it's much deeper than that. I think I'm just fascinated with the intricate and peculiar friendship they all share. It's easier to get attached to comedy rather than drama, as a rule of thumb, and they're just endlessly funny.
I've been searching for examples of the interactions that stuck with me and was going to include screenshots but there are just way too many things. Like, okay, in no particular order:
Shizuku wearing Phinks' coat after her sweater gets torn in a fight.
Phinks tucking Kalluto under his arm like a chicken and carrying him out of an exploding building.
Nobunaga getting trapped in a pocket dimension and everybody agreeing that he should just stay there awhile because they've just taken a hostage and now there isn't enough space in the car.
Machi and Nobunaga hanging out like normal people, drinking beer and serving cunt effortlessly in stylistically matching outfits.
Kuroro getting a prediction that "the spider will lose half of its legs" and immediately going "nope not losing any of my men out there let's pack it"
Hisoka actually fucking saying "I can't tell you that. If I told you that, I would be telling you what I can't tell you. This is why I can't tell you that. That's all I can tell you." and they believed him. Maybe it's more normal with English subs, I dunno.
Everyone playing cards while Uvogin is fighting, all while talking about how good Uvogin is at fighting.
Uvogin giving Shalnark a little kissie. I don't even ship them, I think he just kisses all of his homies like a real man.
Franklin getting sent after a crate of beer. Like, that's just so funny to me. Errand boy.
Feitan and Shalnark calling Phinks "very feminine" and giggling.
Franklin and Nobunaga just fucking going at it, sword on gun violence, for no reason whatsoever. It seemed like they were having fun.
Nobunaga asking rhetorically how strong he is compared to the rest of the gang and them replying "7th or 8th idk" you fucking know they debated this.
Uvogin getting his dumb sexy ass captured and everyone showing up for him awww
Everyone being supportive of Shizuku being fucking stupid. Not even in a sweet way or anything, just kind of acknowledging that she has zero thoughts in her brain. "Shizuku why didn't you use your left hand" because she was spinning a vacuum cleaner in her mind, what's not clicking
Dunno what they call Kurapika in the English version but in the Russian subs they all collectively only ever refer to him as "ублюдок с цепями" or "the asshole with the chains".
Nobunaga immediately inviting two twelve-year-olds to join because he thinks they're hilarious, and everyone going "yeah okay as long as the boss is cool with it". You go Nobunaga, everybody grieves differently
The kids refuse and escape, go spying on the other members again, get caught again, and when Nobunaga sees them he's all "Wanna be friends now? ^^" <- nobody has anything against this
Feitan having his arm broken in a fight and Phinks going "HA!"
Literally every single time they toss a coin, but especially when Phinks and Bonolenov were arguing over who should fight Zazan if Feitan fucking dies???
Shalnark being a fucking gamer and inviting everyone else to speedrun Greed Island with him. Franklin going "no thanks" next shot he's in the goddamn game
Tossing the phone around. Can't remember whose phone it originally was but passing it around was hilarious every time. "We already killed the hostages" beep beep beep "Sorry I lied"
There are so many moments and I'm not even halfway done. Supreme quality villains. I need more of them. I need to inject them directly into my brain.
i wish to add some of my own bcs this is amazing. made me cackle after i jusf had the worst sleep of my fuckin life.
will also include some manga moments bcs there were some excellent panels.
- phinks getting fuckin SCHNOCKED by machi and nobunaga
- chrollo going "urk-!" in response to phinks and feitan not knowing critical data about themselves. bro phinks doesnt know his blood type. sir that is important go get a test done you absolute buffoon
- uvo's panic when he tries to think of a way to get rid of the leeches and both shal and shizuku make it worse. had bro shakin
- shizuku comparing skill hunter to a death note and bono just sighing.
- feitan threatening to kill either nobu and phinks because they both keep trying to argue with the other and hes had enough
- phinks and nobu warning a hostage that if they dont obey feitan WILL cut off their ears. and then phinks adds on that he usually doesnt stop there. and its so casual like "yeah thats our fucked up little guy, cmere hostage guy just do what we say dw about it"
- phinks and nobu being nen nerds. theyre my everything.
- franklin being the one shouting at uvo for death screaming at the shadow beast. like franklin is so chill and yet hes the one getting heated XD
- machis devious smirk after uvo won. she is so proud of him you cant tell me im wrong.
- kortopi.
- the shellfish scene. easily the funniest scene out of the succession war arc
- shalnark being so happy to see everyone as they show up to the base in yorknew. we know for a damn fact bro was so excited to see his friends again.
anyway.
i love the troupe thank you for making this op i fucking love you
hello! you know that young pt artwork you made in like march? i would love to see the rest of the pt babies ♡ no rush!
hello! thanks <3 i'm not drawing them as much currently cos my brain can only handle so many things at once lol but i can share some of my wips and sketches!
One aspect of Chrollo's character that I think goes underappreciated a lot of the time is his sense of humor. His playful side. His enjoyment of the bizarre and chaotic.
Or at least, I haven’t seen fans talk about it much in discussions about him. Which is a bit of a shame imo, since it adds such nice nuance to his character and further disproves the "just an edgy aloof gothguy/he's so boring and emotionless" allegations. (Probably gonna tackle the "boring because he's emotionless" part further sometime. Because it's so blatantly untrue like what are you even on about with that?)
We see clear instances of Chrollo having a sense of mischief (albeit at times sadistic and cruel) throughout the manga.
His initial evident fondness for Hisoka is a good example of this, as well as the very first we get. Part of said fondness is probably due to Chrollo being fascinated with Hisoka's psyche, but he's also just plain amused by the clown's antics (until he isn't) and is content to let him run around and do his own thing (until he isn't)
Another instance of Chrollo's appreciation for eccentric shit is found in this panel
The man canonically reads (and evidently enjoys) Bo-Bobo. Which (from what the Internet tells me) is a surreal action comedy manga, known for its absurd and chaotic humor. It seems like a riot, tbh. Might have to check it out for myself hah
I love that Chrollo isn't some literature snob, but will happily read things like this in his downtime and not just books in the veins of, idk, King James Bible, Nietzsche's collected writings or Crime and Punishment. It adds to his appeal :) ♡ a sense of humor (in addition to not being a highbrow prick) is one of the most attractive traits a person can have, after all.
Speaking of sense of humor, Chrollo appreciates a good karmic joke, as seen here when he realizes that Hisoka's ass is now at the receiving end of it
He laughs even in the face of his own shitty situation. Which I think is quite telling of Chrollo's character. Chrollo is not the stonefaced 24/7 brooding edgelord he's sometimes accused of being.
I mean we've got a panel like this to show the exact opposite of a humorless (or emotionless for that matter) man
Crucially, Chrollo is completely alone here. He's not playing a part, or putting up a façade. He's authentically silly (and channeling his younger self a bit).
I headcanon that this is the type of guy Chrollo would have grown up to be had trauma and his giving his soul and self to the Spider not happened. He'd be openly expressive, not ashamed to be goofy or overall emotional. An endearing, friendly and approachable guy.
(We also have this scene of a playful Chrollo from the '99 anime. It's technically not canon but I'm including it anyway because it's cute... in a fucked up/manipulative way)
Anyway, back to canon timeline and a moment that can be interpreted as playful in a creepy way.
It's hard to tell though, but to me Chrollo's demeanor in his meeting with 'Assassin A' is indicative of him feeling some (dark) amusement and playfulness, or at least of being in the mood for some "fun".
In addition to being silly/weird on occassion, Chrollo can be a cocky/cheeky lil shit to his elders
(That fucking smirk. I love it)
Chrollo also seems to enjoy messing with and annoying his friends on occasion.
Like in this scene, where he provokes an already riled up Nobunaga
(Nobunaga also says in an earlier chapter that Chrollo has tricked him more than once. Likely it's often been for tactical reasons – such as when he secretly sends Paku and Phinks to tail Nobu and Machi – but since Chrollo does have a mischievous streak, it wouldn’t surprise me if he's done it for some shits and giggles as well on occasion, similar to in the above).
The topic of Chrollo liking to provoke others does inevitably lead ones thoughts to the infamous car scene with Kurapika, where Chrollo takes rage-baiting to some truly sick and messed up levels. It's impossible to say whether all of it was just pure cold calculated manipulation tactics by Chrollo, or if he actually got some additional cruel enjoyment out of taunting and riling the young man up. He does smirk and smile an awful lot throughout, but then he's a consummate actor, so idk if it was from genuine amusement/satisfaction or not. I'm personally leaning towards Chrollo getting some entertainment out of it like the sick fuck he can be. (Additionally Kurapika did just (no matter how justifiably) kill one of Chrollo's loved ones, so it's not far fetched that the latter would hold some resentment toward the Kurta and consequently feel at least a level of satisfaction at getting back at him this way.) Regardless, I'm including it as an instance of cruel and sadistic (if tactical) mischief.
I also personally believe the "I didn't think the chain dude would be a woman" moment was Chrollo being sarcastic rather than actually serious. As in, I think he called Kurapika's bluff.
Idk it just doesn’t fit Chrollo's known character to be surprised that the chain user would be a woman. Like why would he be? He's got women in his Troupe (one of whom can canonically beat his ass in arm wrestling), he knows they're capable and strong, and he also knows that women as well as men can be driven to kill for vengeance (Paku and Machi are right there). God knows the man's got massive moral failings, but he's just too smart for misogyny (and racism, or any prejudice really) to be among them. Or that's my feeling djdhd.
And lastly, to wrap up the post, I have to include this little scene of disrespect and 0 fucks so blatantly given by Chrollo. It's genuinely one of the funniest moments in the manga imo
He just does not care at alllll (T_T) lmao
All the man wants is to infodump abilities and then get this over with so he can go rob some royals.
Anyway, Chrollo is a complex and layered guy, as opposed to the boring emotionless edgy gothman with no depth or character that he's at times accused of being. He has a sense of humor, a fondness for the weird and absurd, can be cocky and disrespectful toward his elders, and possesses a silly as well as mischievous side to his character. These traits are interesting as well as important to his characterization, and I just wanted to highlight them since I haven’t seen it done very often.