God bless the CN Sylus Girlies for having all our backs 🫶
I'm hoping this will finally make Infold release his content from their basement and stop treating him as their cash cow. B/c right now? He is essentially P2W and even for spenders he is extremely difficult to main. Raising his affinity is hell compared to the other LIs. Whaling and R3ing his cards is basically a necessity at this point. Especially if you're a newer player.
It's just not fair and we should all demand better treatment.
(Note: This is NOT a question of asking for MORE Sylus content compared to the other LIs. Most Sylus girlies — myself included — know and accept that Sylus will never truly catch up b/c of him being newer. No, what we're asking for is literally just to have the same amount of stuff that the other 3 had upon release and which Sylus still does not have months after his introduction)
So Papergames finally officially responded... by trying not only to gaslight their consumers but also by subtly threatening to take legal action against CN Sylus girlies for "spreading false information". 🫠
What false information??? The numbers speak for themselves 😭😭😭 Also way to not even address the issue which is the severe lack of Standard Sylus content. Literally all we're asking for is the bare minimum
https://x.com/TheLunaRiegrow/status/1878922473875673209 (another informative post, going into detail on what Sylus is lacking (calculating that he is missing 16,550 affinity points) the timeline of his and other LI's development (Sylus was planned as far back as in June 2023, perhaps even earlier), and more! Please check it out!
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveAndDeepspace_/s/wg63ZSQfBc (this post lays out the vast gap in cards and affinity points between Sylus and the OG3. I'd also advise you to read this comment by another user which explains why non-Sylus mains should also be very concerned. B/c this is in no way an issue that will only affect Sylus girlies in the long run.)
https://www.tumblr.com/yes-no-maybe-soo/772593769512157184/you-know-what-fuck-it-now-that-im-at-it-i-might?source=share (my own post on the issue)
Hunter x Blood Type x Adultrio
Based on Blood Type Personality Meme [Original comic.]
Yep, it’s their official blood type and surprisingly accurate enough!
Illumi [A]: Cautious, organized, punctual | Stubborn, overearnest.
Hisoka [B]: Wild, adventurous, passionate | Selfish, unpredictable.
Chrollo [AB]: Calm, rational, controlled | Two-faced, forgetful.
me: “Stop ruining their fictional life!”. me: "nuhh.“
Not to be cliche, but Jane Austen's novels are a lot about how great power & wealth should come with great responsibility, and how most of the wealthy and powerful fail at that. She's asking questions like, "Is that insanely wealthy person polite, charitable, and considerate in a way that befits his station in life?" and she's finding most of them wanting.
Darcy being rude at a party matters because he's so wealthy. Emma insulting Miss Bates is so horrible because she's so wealthy. Those in power were supposed to set a higher standard and be an example of morality and correct conduct to those of the lower classes. While we might not totally agree with this concept today, that is why their behaviour matters so much to Jane Austen. And it's valid because a person who is careless with that much wealth and power can cause a lot of damage. What if everyone in Highbury decided it was now acceptable to shun Miss Bates? It would be diasterious for her. Darcy could easily ruin a woman's marriage prospects. It mattered.
This is why I get so annoyed when people are all, "Of course Darcy was rude! All these women are throwing themselves at him all the time. He's tired of it. His life is so sad!" because that's the price of being an heir to a massive fortune. The poor poor little baby is in the top 1% of the 1% just because he was born male into the right family. As a balance for this insane luck, he's expected to be benevolent, charitable, and polite. It's a pretty small ask, and he's not doing it. (Though he is great at the charity part, which Elizabeth discovers when she visits Pemberley). "But he never knows if someone actually loves him for him!" Then he can give his entire fortune to me. Problem solved. Sorry, if he wants to be filthy rich he has freaking obligations.
You are allowed to find things hot in theory while also never wanting to actually do them in real life btw. You can get off on whatever wild shit in your imagination and still prefer to be very vanilla in real life. Or not want to have sex at all in real life. You don't owe the universe anything in exchange for your dirty mind.
"Chrollo is a narcissist who dragged his friends into his murder suicide cult"
"Chrollo structured the Spider the way he did because he wants to control its members"
Aight, let's tackle these assertions I've seen thrown around at my blorbo. He may be a terrible human being but I shall defend what miniscule honor he has against slander like this ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
(This will be lengthy because I am ND as fuck and Chrollo is my special interest. My capacity to yap about him has no limits)
Ok, let's start with
"Chrollo doesn't care about his friends"
Meanwhile Chrollo when
Uvogin dies
Paku betrays him and puts herself at risk
Paku has died
Kortopi and Shalnark die
Sarasa died
Idk looks like the demeanor and actions of a man who doesn't give a farthing about his friends to me ( ´_ゝ`)
For real though what are we doing with this claim, guys?
Chrollo's love for and grief over his friends are one of his most defining characteristics all the way from his childhood up until the present, as well as the most human and sympathetic one.
Sarasa's murder was the reason the PT was formed. Chrollo's empathy for her and for MC as a whole are the reason why he became who he became.
And it's important to note that Chrollo doesn't appear to actually deep down believe in the PT's creed, at least not when it concerns his friends (why keep Pakunoda's spot vacant if he truly saw her as a replaceable leg, for instance? Why mourn the deaths of Shal and Topi and arrange a manhunt for their killer?). Chrollo's a hypocrite in the sense that he expects his friends to readily sacrifice him if things go dicey since he sees himself as merely a head that can be replaced, but he would never be able to coldly and pragmatically sacrifice any of the others if push came to shove. He's intensely human and emotional at his core, and his care for his friends/family is indisputable. Attacking that spot is the one thing capable of triggering him and of making him lose his composure (and reason) to suicidal degrees.
"He's a narcissist who dragged his friends into his murder cult"
????
The kid was literally elected leader??????
Like did we forget this happened or...?
He didn't drag anyone into anything what are people on about? Stop acting like the other mass murderers have no agency when we see throughout the manga that they have plenty. For instance they outright disobey Chrollo's explicit wishes in Yorknew in order to save him, and are shown to oppose or question him too, which Chrollo takes calmly and without interrupting. He listens to their grievances and their input.
Going back to the founding of the Spider and Chrollo "dragging his friends into it", Sheila walked away and Chrollo didn't try to stop her or even to convince her to "join his cult". The others could have done the same but chose not to. That was their decision.
Chrollo never forced his friends to do shit. They've always been willing participants and many of them are shown to be sadists who delight in killing and torturing. They're having a good time most of the time. Stop babying them in order to make Chrollo look even worse (he's bad enough already, aight. He doesn't need additional — and false — PR to look like an asshole).
As for being a narcissist, Chrollo doesn't even have a grasp on his own identity and places no value on himself as an individual, but sees himself as wholly replaceable and as no better or of more worth than any of his troupe members. That is not at all the mindset of a narcissist.
He's also explicitly shown to not give a rat's ass about his own life whilst on the other hand grieving for his friends to the point of crying and of self destruction.
I've even seen someone say that he "monopolizes" the notes left beside Sarasa's body and that he doesn't show real grief but uses the scene of her murder as an opportunity to monologue about himself.
Which... are just outright lies
In reality
HE is the one person who shows the most concern for Sarasa from the get go
HE is the one who walks up on stage to announce Sarasa's disappearance, crying and clutching his clothes like the anxious and frightened child he is, and taking full responsibility for the situation (not because he's a narcissistic attention whore but because he is an 11 year old kid who has been groomed by the grown ups around him and who has been placed in a position where all his friends look to him for guidance. It's messed up, but not because child Chrollo is evil, but because he — a baby not even in his teens — genuinely feels responsible for everyone at this stage, when he in fact shouldn't have to shoulder any of this)
HE is the one who first cradles Sarasa's body and HE is the one who silently carries all the horrors of what was done to her.
And the latter is not out of a desire to "monopolize" the situation. That's asinine talk.
Rather it's almost certainly to protect his friends, Sarasa included. He is shielding the living from knowing something that visibly broke something within himself, and he is also shielding Sarasa's dignity by not detailing the horrors she went through.
This is way more in keeping with Chrollo's character as presented in the manga.
My point is, Chrollo acts with the protection of his friends in mind. It's not a way to exert some form of control of the situation or to be the sole person holding the narrative* (*genuine claim I've seen btw) or some bullcaca like that come on now.
Also, in this moment Chrollo is a literal child who's just been irreversibly scarred for life. To have to read the note for himself is awful enough, but to do so aloud? To voice the excrutiating specifics? I doubt he'd even be capable of it, even if he hadn't had his self sacrificing mindset. To expect him to is asking a lot of an emotionally traumatized child cradling the dismembered corpse of his friend.
(As for the monologuing it comes after her funeral. At the scene of Sarasa's murder Chrollo is openly crying and distraught. After Uvogin rips him away from Sarasa's corpse and then throws him to the ground Franklin is seen comforting him as he weeps in the rain and dirt. To say he isn't grief stricken is disingenuous. Even after the funeral it's obvious that Chrollo is still messed up by the event; the closeup of his eyes as he speaks of the perpetrators twisted mindset is notably similar to the closeup of his eyes when Machi meets him on the black whale and he declares his intent to kill Hisoka.)
"Chrollo structured the Spider the way he did because he wants to control its members"
yeah mmhm. Right.
That's why he allows Hisoka to fuck around doing whatever.
That's why the whole troupe only ever meet up like once every 2 years and are able to do as they please all that time (Greed Island is a perfect example of the Troupe's independence; hell they even recruit a new member while Chrollo's gone and who he accepts)
That's why Uvogin and the others are at liberty to deal with opponents in Yorknew the way they see fit (Chrollo doesn't attempt to stop Uvogin from going after Kurapika by himself).
That's why Chrollo is shown calmly listening to his friends, and why he places Machi's hunches above his own.
That's why he's perfectly alright with dying and letting someone else take over as head.
That's why he doesn't tell the Spiders how to go about capturing Hisoka or that they can't kill him.
There's so much wrong with the claim that Chrollo wants to control his friends like a deranged cult leader that I am genuinely baffled by it
Again he was ELECTED leader
Chrollo wanted UVO to be Danchou. He himself didn't ever aim or even wish to become the leader and this very fact is stated by Togashi himself in an interview as a core aspect of Chrollo's character; this "this is how things are, so I will do my best" mindset. Togashi states that Chrollo is his favorite Spider and that he admires him specifically because he didn't nominate himself as leader nor actively sought the position, but stepped up to it because that's what the collective wanted. He respected the group's decision and made it his mission to do his best for them. It was never about ego or control.
Like how do you get this fundamental part of his character wrong?
Chrollo's character has never been about being a control freak, but about being a person who had responsibility shoved onto him before he'd even graduated middle school.
Genuinely... how can you read HxH and come away with the impression that Chrollo is a narcissistic control freak who doesn't care about the Troupe? I truly don't understand, because it runs counter to everything we know of him.
He's a POS absolutely but he's also complex. He is not 100% black but has shades of grey.
The backstory explicitly shows us that Chrollo was a good and empathetic kid who'd bring fresh flowers to the graves of murdered children (Pakunoda, a character explicitly shown to be good at reading others and to be deeply empathetic herself, picks up on his kind nature which is why she cares for and treasures him so much. The same I believe can be said of Sarasa, who was similarly good at reading others), whose upbringing, trauma, and feelings of responsibility (the latter seemingly drilled into him by the elders and definitely by everyone around him) warped him into the man we see in present day.
He's a dark mirror to Kurapika, a cautionary tale of what could happen if you walk down the full path of revenge and consuming anger. A key distinction though is that Chrollo never had a good support system unlike Kurapika. Chrollo was an orphan raised in filth and poverty where every day was a scramble for resources and survival and where he was bullied by kids bigger and older than himself until he proved himself, and where his friends were in no position to help either because they came from the same shithole and weren't equipped to give him fresh perspective. They were all discarded or spat upon by the world outside and left by the adults around them to raise themselves and survive best they could.
If you believe Chrollo was born evil and that he is narcissistic and controlling and incapable of caring about anyone then you either fundamentally fail to grasp his character or you willfully disregard it in favor to further fuel your own hatred for him. Or maybe it comes down to an unwillingness to recognize that Chrollo is not a character that can be boiled down to simplicities or extremes.
Chrollo is a fascinating and effective character precisely because there are aspects of him that are sympathetic and because his present self was, in a way, created by empathy and the complete absence of ego, rather than the opposite. Empathy for Sarasa and MC were the reason he became who he is. He was a naturally sensitive, caring and groomed child with a savior complex and too much responsibility (such as blaming himself for Sarasa's death, and protecting his friends from reading the note). His identity was swallowed whole in the process.
Chrollo's life is a tragedy because he could have turned out a good person. To strip him down to being irredeemably evil from birth ruins his character and his story.
Dgmw, I am not excusing or absolving Chrollo of his actual flaws or crimes. I've made dedicated posts pointing out how terrible he is. But let's not go twist his character into a one dimensional "born evil" character who strung his poor innocent friends along and "forced them" into becoming mass murderers. That is never who he has been.
I could probably go on but this is long enough. Just needed to vent a little haha. I am very passionate about this man, what can I say.
Tl;dr, it's valid to hate Chrollo, but there is no need to go inventing additional reasons to. He's plenty despicable already.
