The day was finally upon us. The alarm clocks had been set for the crack of dawn on Saturday morning and the wish list had been written. It was, of course, Record Store Day â a day where hoards of people queue for a chance to take home a vast array of vinyl that has been specially pressed for the day. Whether youâre a fan of the concept, or you think itâs just a fad, it has to be good for the independent record shops, who are doing well to survive these turbulent times. To celebrate the RSD, the Oakford Social Club in Reading hosted a full day of events, which included a performance by the London based three-piece (not that this has any relation to how they sound) Mazes. Prior to going onstage, Jack, Conan and Neil from the band chatted to needles&grooves about their new approach to their second album, Ores & Minerals, and not getting free ConverseâŚ
 needles&grooves: So today is Record Store Day. Were there any records that stood out for you?
Jack: Absolutely not, but Iâm probably not the person to ask.
Conan: I saw a few I wanted to get but I didnât get any. Iâve been to record store day a couple of times and I think itâs a good idea, but itâs not really for me, and not for anyone who doesnât want to get out of bed for 6 in the morning and queue! I like records but I donât like them that much.
J: I think it started off as a good idea, but I think it got co-opted so quickly by major labels just re-releasing shit that people have already got.
C: The records I did really want were two reissues by this New Zealand label called Flying Nun that capture tracks in New York for reissue. But they reissued only like 600 of each one, so itâ limited and not available in the UK, so theyâre probably going to be sold out after today anyway. Itâs obviously just a moneymaking thing. I donât really understand it.
n&g: Your second album, Ores & Minerals, was the follow up to A Thousand Heys. When writing it, did you find it to be the âdifficultâ second album, or was it an easier progression?
J: Not really. I think the first one suffered a little bit because it was just a collection of songs that weâd been playing live, and actually it was easier in a way. There was a bit of a method to this one and when youâre working with a hypothesis its just generally easier. Also, itâs not as if the first album set the world on fire.
n&g: How are you finding its reception? It seems to have had quite good reviews all round.
C: Iâve tried to distance myself from it, and not look. You canât help but read a few reviews. With the first one, we all would look up and see what people thought of it, but with this one weâve taken a step back a bit. With the second album thing as well, unless you do have a really big first album, itâs quite hard to do a second album because everyone just wants new bands and new music all the time. As a new band, you get your first album out and everyone is talking about it. You do your second album, and itâs harder to create that buzz because everyone is just so into new music.
J: I feel weâve done okay because the new album is pretty different from the first. If weâd done one just like the first one, it probably wouldnât have gotten too much response.
n&g: A lot has been said about the addition of loops in the new songs. Did you do this to compensate for your other guitarist (Jarin) leaving?
J: I guess there were a few reasons. I think it was more a way of having something to write to. I used to write in a style where it was very kind of sing-songy, where itâd go verse then chorus. I wanted to switch it up and do something different, and force myself to write in a different way.
n&g: When you play live, you donât replicate what is on the album. Do you enjoy each performance being like it being different, or would you like to try playing with sequencers, samplers, etc. to try and replicate whatâs on the album?
J: Itâs just the way weâve always done it.
C: When you record an album, itâs kind of like a snapshot of how that song is at that time, and the more you play it live, the more the song changes and develops. Itâs more of an interesting way of playing the songs, rather than just âthatâs how we recorded it, thatâs how weâre going to play it; every single note and bar, every single time we play it live.â Also, these songs are more open to it. Because itâs a continuous loop, one song could go on for like 20 minutes.
n&g: If ATP (All Tomorrow's Parties) asked you to curate your own gig, who would you choose?
J: Thereâs a few things youâve got to bare in mind because thereâs some bands that thereâs no point asking. You canât say âI want the Beatles to do itâ because two of them are dead!
Neil: I wouldnât mind seeing Neil Young play âOn the Beachâ
J: Yeah thatâd be amazing.
C: If we could get Daniel Higgs and Zomes to do a show together, Cream, lots of New Zealand bands.
J: Antelope. Iâd like to see the Zombies, Iâve never managed to see the Zombies. You could get Prince I reckon. Thereâs quite a good mix there.
n&g: On your website it says that youâre influenced by art. Was there any particular artists or styles of art that influence Ores & Minerals?
J: We were just trying to be pretentious! I think there are so many things about band biographies or interviews that are ridiculous, when they say âoh weâre influenced by this,â or âinfluenced by that.â
C: Foals are pretty good at doing that. I read an interview about their latest album and they were asked what were the influence with this album and they came out with the most obscure art references. Maybe theyâre in on it and theyâre just making shit up.
J: I donât understand why how many people are in the band is relevant. Thereâs a thing where people always say âa three piece from Manchesterâ or âa three piece from London.â Who gives a fuck. And why does that matter where a band is from? We lived in Manchester a bit, but Iâve always seen us as more of a London band. It doesnât really matter. Most of the bands in the East London scene from a few years ago (Fair Ohs, Male Bonding, Cold Pumas, etc.) were influenced by American culture rather than East London.Â
n&g: Youâve toured quite extensively over the past few years, both in the UK and the US, and youâre off on tour with Veronica Falls in Europe next week. Do you find yourself being influenced and writing on the road?
J: Not so much. Travelling just drains any creativity out of you. You donât necessarily get influenced artistically by bands, but, itâs normal to get influenced by how they do things and how they conduct themselves. We were really influenced when we went on tour with Sebadoh in America because they just toured the three of them. We realised that that was the way to do it, especially if we want to save money. Alternatively, weâve been on tour with bands who have tour managers and engineers and someone driving them. Itâs just not for us.
n&g: How do you (Conan) find managing Italian Beach Babes, as well as doing the band?
C: I have another job that I actually live off, and then I do Italian Beach Babes, and I do the band as well. Itâs what Iâve done for quite a few years now. Iâm lucky to be in a position where I donât work full time, so I can have time to do that. Itâs not really an issue. There are definitely times where, like when we were recording, that I had a lot of spare time so I got to put out a lot of records, whereas this year, with the new record, I havenât really been doing much with the label. Itâs kind of nice because itâs only me, and thereâs no one else depending on it, so I can just come and go from it when I want.
n&g: How would you describe your sound in three words
n&g: Whatâs your party trick?
C: Neil playing in time to the backing track and not going out of time!
n&g: Whatâs your worst vice
J: Beer. Itâs pretty bad!
n&g: Whatâs your favourite sound at the minute?
N: All bands!
C: You could ask all three of us and weâd say tiny different things. I think probably Parquet Courts. White Fence as well. Total Control. Thereâs loads of good things out. Vision Fortune as well, theyâre friends of ours from London.
n&g: Whatâs your favourite label?
J: Mines Italian Beach Babes. Itâs as good as any! Flying Nun.
n&g: Whatâs your musical guilty pleasure?
J: I donât really acknowledge that I feel guilty about anything⌠well I do about some things in life! But a lot of the things that I listen to a lot of people used to consider guilty pleasures. The Beatles? I mean some people would consider that to be a guilty pleasure.
n&g: What is the best thing about touring?
C: Just travelling I guess.
J: Yeah, just travelling and meeting new people.
n&g: Whatâs the worst thing about touring?
J: Travelling again probably.
C: Yeah, just sitting in a car for like 5-6 hours a day.
J: Shitty food. Weâre all pretty in to food.
N: If we get bad food thatâs it!
J: Yeah, if we get bad food thatâs it! Itâs a minefield though eating on tour. You donât want to eat anything too heavy because then youâll play bad. Itâs a tricky one. I could write a whole tour cookbook.
n&g: Whatâs the best gig youâve played?
J: Thereâs different ones for different reasons.
C: It was always like what comes before or after that made it good.
J: That one in Columbia, Missouri with White Denim was pretty good. I guess different ones for different stages of the band. That one we played for Primavera in Barcelona was pretty good. And then the last London headline we did was really good as well.
n&g: What was your worst gig?
C: That Converse one at Bestival.
J: Yeah that was so bad.
C: Playing Bestival in general was one of the worst experiences.
J: We were down to play some Converse tent in the afternoon.
C: There was no sound check and the generator ran out of petrol half way through our set.
J: It seemed like the whole audience was made up of people that theyâd hired. It was just so shit!
C: It was soul destroying.
J: We didnât even get any shoes!
C: Weâve had free shoes off them before.
J: We did a show before that was sponsored by Converse, and weâre always in two minds whether to do those sorts of thing. But weâd all worn converse before, and they were paying a load of money. The biggest fee weâve ever had, like times by three! So we did that, but the show we did for them for Bestival, fuck, it was so bad.
n&g: Whatâs the best band youâve played with?
N: Iâd say Sebadoh.
J: Yeah, Sebadoh.
n&g: Whatâs the worst band youâve played with?
J: So many. Thereâs too many to say!
n&g: Whatâs next for you guys?
J: Well weâre touring in Europe, weâre doing Great Escape, and then weâre playing with Parquet Courts in London. For the rest of the year weâll probably do Spain at some point. Thatâs on the agenda.
C: Italy maybe.
J: Italy. And thatâs kind of it. Weâve been talking for the past week or so about maybe doing the third album, and maybe doing that in America.
Mazes are playing The Great Escape, Brighton 18th May & 100 Club, London (supporting Parquet Courts) 19th May