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20s. any prns. Media connoisseur. Multifandom, mostly Katniss Everdeen.

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I should probably make some kind of introduction instead of just yapping in people’s comments so…

I’m Ren, any prns. 23, sag. Hispanic. Tmasc aroace(spec) bi. AuADHD & Spoonie. Fic writer hobbyist who mostly hoards WIPs. IzayasKnife on Ao3.

I talk about fandom, feminism, and complain.

My main obsession is THG/Katniss Everdeen. I have a Katniss hyperfixation more than a solely THG one. Fan of (Queerplatonic) Everlark, Everthorne, Underdeen. I also like Odesta and my other favs are Prim, Rue, Thresh, Cinna, Finnick, Annie, Mags.

Other interests: iwtv, atla, fma, lis games, DC (mostly batman/batfam), star wars, death note, reign, bojack horseman, and adventure time. I’ve been a fan of Adventure Time the longest and consider Finn Mertens as like a son to me. I AM NOT SPOILER FREE FOR ANY FANDOM.

Views: Intersectional feminist (against choice feminism). I’m a fan of vaccines, abortions, queerness, and I am pro free all occupied land.

Hobbies: Playing catch with wasp nests. Deep sea skinny dipping. Chainsaw juggling. Blindfolded welding.

DNI: conservative/reactionary, nationalist/zionist, queerphobe, partake in ship wars or cringe culture genuinely, alternatively ignore bigotry in fandom because it’s all fictional, or condone pedo/zoo/necro/consang or Al art/porn.

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Washing the waterbender baby

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So I’ve been doing a bit of a deep dive into the Christian influences in THG. There were some I was already aware of like Panem sort of coming from Pandemonium, the Capital of Hell in Paradise Lost where Lucifer resides. You can even view President Snow as alluding to Lucifer with his snake references by Katniss.

In a way, THG is about the fall of America, an America that has lost itself to the worst of its past mistakes as the Districts are based on American history (District 13: Site R or “underground pentagon.” District 12: Appalachian Coal Camps. District 11: Plantations and/or Sharecropping. District 4: Hollywood/Celebrity Culture. District 2: Manhattan Project. These are my hcs though.)

I’m admittedly ambivalent about this because does this mean THG is about criticizing America, or criticizing America falling? It appears to do both and its main political position is being anti extremism.

Either way Panem seems to reference Catholicism and the Bible.

The number 13 in the Bible represents rebellion (such as the one led by Satan), apostasy, lawlessness, the governments/nations created by men, unlike 12 which represents divine government and perfection, God’s Kingdom and why God ordered the holy city of Jerusalem to have 12 gates, 12 foundations, protected by 12 angels. 13 corrupts the perfection of 12, such as Jesus and his 12 apostles at the Last Supper, with Judas, who famously betrayed Jesus, as the 13th. Or the 12 tribes of Israel, that technically had 13 tribes being based on Jacob’s 12 sons, but had one of them split. This is seen as a schism in a way, which is an issue in Catholicism, seeing itself as the one true Church that is God’s Kingdom on Earth.

And religion itself, Christianity that is, may be canon in THG as Katniss, pg 84 of CF, says, “designs of small, fat children with wings look down at us from every angle.” Sounds like Angels, specifically Putti that represents innocence or the baby interpretation of Cherubs. Katniss doesn’t seem to know what Angels (Religion, Christianity) are and the trilogy is in her POV, but that doesn’t mean they are so far into the future that they’re nonexistent. (Unknown future ≠ distant future.)

But what is a story influenced by Christianity without Christ? Well, that’s where Peeta comes in.

While he’s not a Jesus analogy or anything, Peeta references Jesus, inspiring humanity through the power of (heterosexual) love, lol, sparking the resurrection of a fallen America as Panem has now fallen, making way for democracy to return. Peeta himself “dies” via highjacking, but eventually comes back and returns to Katniss and loving her. This may possibly reference Jesus’s resurrection. It wouldn’t surprise me if the trilogy itself also does this as Jesus rose on the 3rd day and this happens to Peeta in the 3rd book, idk. 3 is an important number in Christianity especially surrounding Jesus due to the 3 wise men, Peter denying then admitting his love for Jesus both 3 times, the Trinity itself, 3 represents completeness. Even the Lark in Peeta’s surname is a morning bird that symbolizes hope, the Church, and Jesus Christ.

And he never wishes revenge on the Capitol (Rome) despite them “killing” him like Jesus after being crucified by the Romans. Even his “boy with the bread” title is from literally giving Katniss bread in a way that sacrificed himself because he had always loved her even without her knowing which inspired her to make her daily bread.🥁

If you stuck with me this long thank you because I’m honestly still trying to gather my thoughts on this, sorry if I lost anyone on the way! I’m not totally certain about everything, my main opinion is I kinda have mixed feelings on Peeta maybe being a blonde blued eyed Jesus Christ. Whether Jesus was a real guy or not he’s essentially the most whitewashed person ever. But I think this is why he’s more pure when it comes to morality and it lowkey feels like he’s teaching Katniss as she comes to love him and why the story vindicates his moral standards, but I digress! I still like the potential Christian/Christian folklore references for the most part. It’s been fun to theorize.

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I go through periods where sometimes everthorne and underdeen will have my heart and I just think about them all together and everyone thinks Gale is with both Katniss and Madge but Katniss actually has both of them.

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“Covey reminds me of hippies more than Romani people” ok but hippies were not a lost minority that were culturally nomadic compared to the peoples around them and faced genocide/erasure like Romani people during WWII/Holocaust.

Hippy is a subculture based around peace doves, the opposite of war hawks, that protested against war, and the music at the time especially played at musical festivals in the 60s/70s.

Do both share similarities with Covey? Yes, but that still poses some other issues because Romani people are not white, while hippies were predominantly white liberals. Making them to be more like hippies during the Vietnam War dilutes and even whitewashes this. I still like Covey a lot, but I think due to thg’s combining of wars and overall being American centric leads to thg having limited capacity of depicting POC without diluting itself, at least, that’s just how it comes across to me.

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I hc Asterid’s pregnancy with Katniss as not exactly hard on her, but was a bit of a learning curve with her being the patient for once especially in the later months so imagine how she felt after giving birth to Burdock’s twin lmao. “9 months making me suffer and she looks like her fcking dad” fr

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so much of Katniss’s growth is done through guilt specifically. it feels so catholic.

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Awhile ago I did a theories for Katniss’s race post for fun (yes over analyzing is fun for me, you’re a nerd too if you’ve read it 🫵) but I wanna redo it because it’s too convoluted and clunky.

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Man sometimes I’ll read my own posts and go, “damn read another book”

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Does SC’s focus on race mixing/interracial ships specifically with a Covey strike as a little odd to anyone else or am I overthinking about THG again

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I just know Peeta would hate AI art with a burning passion.

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This is very stupid but it’s genuinely what I think about every time I consider skipping dinner after work

Edit: legit did not realize that senshis fighting for his life in the sexyman polls but I’m very happy to be spreading pro senshi propaganda

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The truth is Haymitch does plays into both the alcoholic Appalachian and Irish (Abernathy is a Scots-Irish surname) stereotype. I’ve already talked about the parallels to Reapings and Vietnam draft lotteries and Operation Homecoming for American soldiers to Victor homecomings. So if Haymitch is meant to address this stereotype of the alcoholic Scots-Irish Appalachian it 1) is mostly for the narrative to subvert expectations and aid in other character’s growth as their view shifts as this character who was introduced puking on himself reveals more about himself when convenientfor them than himself as this means he had to be a stereotype for the story. 2) Vietnam Veterans were prone to alcoholism more than the general population so Haymitch could’ve represent this only and literally didn’t need to be Scots-Irish. In fact, I’m willing to bet that in 2008 him having the last name Thornrose or something wouldn’t bat an eye for the world of THG, even now when his surname has been set for over a decade. But since the older generations tend to get names a little more fitting to our world’s names, Haymitch just had to have his drunken Appalachian Irishness set in reality, apparently.

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Forgive me (2/2)

Part 1 here

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theyre grown up now

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Prenup photoshoot

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reblog if you wear glasses. too many mutuals don't know they have glasses wearers in their midsts