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will byers fans: he is my son who has done nothing wrong ever and if anyone lays a finger on him i will riot
mike wheeler fans: he should literally be tortured
bylers are literally the funniest people on earth, because what do you mean, WHAT DO YOU MEAN we got the OFFICIAL FINALE—the final episode, shown IN THEATRES—and bylers are still out here saying "well, this is actually still how byler happens"???? then they hand you a 500-page powerpoint of proof, and it unironically makes perfect sense.
and now our collective mass psychosis has made it to fucking forbes.
even if conformitygate is real, the duffers had no right to talk that weird shit about their only queer couple, their only black girl character, torture a gay actor for 12 hours until he had panic attacks, and laugh about a “porn” joke made about a minor. i better not see yall glazing their asses
forced conformity
that's what's killing the kids
in 2022 mike is gonna hear glimpse of us by joji and kill himself
i— i just want noah schnapp to someday be able to play a gay character in a queer film or series where the writers actually respect him and respect the lgbt community enough for him not to have to settle for crumbs. i feel like all this enchantment and gratitude toward will’s story exists purely because he’s surrounded by heteronormativity to the point where he can’t even question the decisions made for will. or maybe he can, but just doesn’t have the courage to, because of the heteronormative environment he’s currently in. and that’s just way too sad.
"This isn't one of your campaigns. You cant write the ending."
But. But Mike did write the ending. Everything we see of everyone's future is just Mike telling a story. Canonically. None of it is real. It could be, but in that moment its just Mike telling a story.
God I feel like Joyce with the fucking Christmas lights GET ME OFF THIS BUS
oh willel i'm so sorry that your writers had you make these choices out of fear. you both deserved so much more.
The fact that this is just epilouge Mike Wheeler
“it’s forced conformity,
that’s what’s killing the kids.”
Everyone loves the party's cleric
Seeing that fuckass epilogue of Will in a gay bar and remembering how when Noah was asked where he saw Will in the future, he said that he'd be focusing on his painting (his passion, as he said) and have someone to share coffee with. THAT should have been his epilogue, it's insane that the Duffers seem to have no understanding of their characters compared to the actors.
I'm... so confused?
What was the purpose of the scene about queer signals, if Will was never going to receive queer signals? Why was the question concerned with the obviousness of signals, and not the mere presence of them? Why use the term "shared looks" when that was a known call and response on set for Noah and Finn?
What was the meaning of the snowball and avalanche metaphor? Why include that scene at all? Where was the payoff?
You're going to write an entire meta scene on queer signals of attraction, include examples that we have already observed, indicate an eventual pay off... and not let it pay off? Why? To be malicious?
You tell the audience through Will that Mike was just his Tammy this entire time and expect us to believe it? Was Tammy in Robin's video tape? Did Robin know Tammy since she was five? Did Tammy run after her in the rain or recognize her breathing over the radio?
And Will Byers never got kissed. Will Byers witnessed queer love, queer joy, and queer intimacy through a kiss at the beginning of the season, wanting that for himself because he's a romantic... and never even got kissed. Not even by his epilogue boyfriend.
They literally handed us Chekov's gun and then told us to shoot ourselves with it ig???
“Nothing is left ambiguous” bitch tf do you mean the entire goddamn story is ambiguous 😭😭😭😭
I can’t bro
giving this its own post. they had Mike chose Human Cannonball, a song about a relationship that both parties were miserable in, then had Robin, who has spent the season as a gay mentor to the boy in love with Mike, tell him to choose a better one, and then had him choose Purple Rain, a song that includes the lyrics "I never wanted to be your weekend lover, I only wanted to be some kind of friend" and "It's such a shame our friendship had to end", and then played that while he kissed his girlfriend. they are forcing my hand into reading him as the most tragic closet case alive.