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that hurt.
What would happen to the 3 species after they all get prayed away? Will they go to heaven or something like that. And also this is giving me some Gears of war 3 ending vibes
they’re supposed to become nothingness. and i guess this also replies to an old ask i got about the admirabilis having a soul. if they can become nothingness i suppose they do have souls, and lustrous too
Honestly, if the series was to end at such a time, I'd be utterly disappointed.
What this series has always focused on were parallels, repetions, cyclic behaviours and routine.
Becoming nothingness would mean reaching Nirvana, but what is Nirvana if not balance?
The ironic thing is, balance was the only the gems had in the beginning of the series.
A neverending life means that, sooner or later, everything exciting will be experienced.
After that, there's balance.
No need to do anything spectacular, 'cause it has already been done.
It's definitely not the "acknowledged" way to get to Nirvana, but what if, instead of moving emotions aside, they embraced them as strongly and fully as they can, until a balance is reached?
The main problem with earthly desires has always been death, the only true human limit.
Gems don't have that limit, they have time.
Earthly desires can't cause them true disappointment, because they will ALWAYS have time to try again, until they succeed.
Which is way I'm not at all worried about them becoming nothingness, because Ichikawa has always given her fair share of criticism to Buddhism, and this would keep the streak going (reaching Nirvana not through the absence of emotions, but thanks to emotions and desires).
Ok I know, I just spat out some idiotic stuff, and not really in a coherent way, but that's kind of how my head works.
Doesn't this have to combine with another material, I remember it was about those treasures in Buddhism, phos still has combine with a red gem doesn't she?
in theory, yes. but who are we to tell ichikawa what she can and cannot do ;-;
It’s like trying to find pattern in a wildfire.
ok the wildfire comparison legit cracked me up
anyways as we all know there was a span of time between the death of all humans and the apparition of gems where sensei STILL refused to pray for the lunarians meaning that aechmea claiming he does not want to pray because he cares about the gems is yet another convenient excuse that answers literally nothing but only proves he’s going to be a dishonest bastard until the end, making him today’s BIG LOSER, send post
good way to tear my heart apart, wow.
I only ask Ichikawa to give us 3 thingés: (1) happy not suffering phos (2) living padpa (3) cairn to break through their trophy wife facade and separate aech’s head from his body
since we’re speaking impossible things: (4) restored antarc (5) shinsha getting the character arc they deserve (6) canon cinnaphos
also, please let me see Red Diamond's smile once again, I beg you Ichikawa.
GUYS, I HAD A FUCKING EPIPHANY.
Phos is going apeshit, alright.
Everything is fucled up.
Everybody could die in a second.
Moon gems are doing their stuff, in blissful ignorance.
The strange fella at the end of the chapter could become a central character ('cause like I said Ichikawa gave them way too much importance with that last panel for them not getting an important role in the end).
Earth gems are hibernating.
Wait, are they ALL asleep??
Because, I dunno if you guys remember but:
ARE WE REALLY GOING TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT CINNABAR COULD BE WIDE AWAKE, AS NOT ONLY THEY CAN PULL THROUGH NIGHT, BUT ALSO WINTER??
ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THEY MIGHT INTERVENE AND MAKE PHOS COME TO THEIR SENSES AND FUCK EVERYTHING UP????
please rb this I want people to not lose hope in this dreadful moment.
so uhmmm, who's that??
am I just dumb af and didn't get it, or is this actually an hypothetical game changer??
like, that can be either Baby Goshe, Padparadscha, or some weird-ass Lunarian who's gonna step in and fu l everything up (for the better, hopefully)
Also, the note on the side of the panel definitely gives importance to said character, 'cause otherwise they wouldn't be at the end of such a crucial chapter.
so uhmmm, who's that??
am I just dumb af and didn't get it, or is this actually an hypothetical game changer??
Do you think there will be more then 85 chapter because I do.
There are still many topics that have not yet been explored, and 5 chapters (6 if you count in the 80th) wouldn't be enough to give a proper ending to such a masterpiece (a lil' hidden gem, if you wish).
We haven't seen Padpa in ages; the Seventh Treasure has yet to be revealed and interact with Phos; Kongou's backstory can't be that short (c'mon); also, Cinnabar doesn't have a job, the earth gems aren't mature enough and they also have to bury their grudges with the ones gone to the moon. Cairngorm hasnt stopped being a bitch; the gem reconstruction program can't possibly be just abandoned like that (mainly because gems like Alex still mourn their lost companions). Also, what about Lapis' body? And Antarc? And Cairn's relationship with that sweetheart named Ghost? Are the Admirabilis going to remain such an unexplored blur until the very end?
I could go on for hours talking about how Ichikawa has always had a fine taste for narration times, and the fact that this show/manga has such a buddhist flow to it, there's no way the author's going to have unfisihed business by the time the series ends.
Last but not least, let's not forget HOW MANY FUCKING CHAPTERS WERE COMPLETELY DEVOTED TO TRIGGER US BY SHOWING CAIRNGORM SMOOCHING WITH THE BAD MOONMAN AND BEING A BITCH.
And I still coul go on talking about why it SHOULDN'T end so soon. Not because I want it to last forever, but because it would end up being a devastatingly incomplete story.
108 (or even more) chapters stan here.
the cure to this suffering is: the world reestarts, everyone is human, phos and antarc meet each other again and get married. the end
beautiful 😭
wait. wait. what the fuck.
Phos is to be shipped with Cinnabar and only Cinnabar.
We can bargain on whether or not Phos×Ghost would work, but that would be it.
And if you disagree sorry but youre wrong.
I disagree. And allow me to explain.
Cinnabar doesn't care about phos. They care about the promise made. Antarc cared more about phos and that's waaaay obvious if you look at the relationships and the impact they had on Phos.
- The Relationship With Cinnabar
Awful. It's written out for us that cinnabar x Phos is toxic. We see phos literally fall apart for cinnabar. "even out in the sea I couldn't find a job for you, I'm sorry. Tomorrow I'll try harder." and what do they get in return for it? A small gasp and a small "I'll hold out on calling them a liar". They allow phos to be shattered, don't speak up in their defence and even try to attack them, knowing their poison will effectively kill them. And for the most part of the series, phos is breaking for them. Acting in defense of them, I cite you back to cinnabar being the literal reason phos tried to self harm. "if you wait to spring cinnabar will..."
Cinnabar isnt good for phos. They don't discourage phos' self destruction. Its heart breaking. Cinnabar only cares about phos because they promised a job, and they later forget about the poor thing because they have what they want.
- antarcs relationship
Had a positive impact on Phos. Sure, they started off rough, but they compliment phos, teach them skills and keep things realistic for them. They encourage phos to try and reach beyond their limits, sure, but that isn't bad on its own. "I'll do what I can" "then you'll never manage anything more" that's just him being honest. Then when phos lost his arms and Phos says "don't worry! This has happened before" for the first time ever phos gets told "obviously I'm going to worry!" for the first time ever phos isn't a burden to someone by just existing.
Let's take a look at antarcs death. He tells phos to stay hidden. He let's himself be shattered for phos and only asks that winter be taken care of in his place. Phos was genuinely cared for by antarc. It wasn't his words or promise, it wasn't his legs improvement. Antarc was looking out for Phos because he is Phos. Because over winter, Antarc genuinely began to care for Phos. It was a quick bond, yes but antarc is (kinda) an only child. Teaching phos everything and watching him grow was probably a great bonding experience and it says alot about antarcs character. That he will die for his siblings if needed. There's also a footnote to be mentioned that Phos and Antarc are similar in personality, both break over ones that they care about. The only difference is that Phos cares about antarc and cinnabar doesn't really care about phos.
We can debate on if Phos x Ghost is good or not, but taking a serious look at how the relationships impact phos, you can't say that cinnabar is the better option
That's why antarc is the best ship for phos. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk.
CINNABAR DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PHOS?????
EXCUSE ME???????
PHOS IS A DORK AND THEY EVEN FORGOT ABOUT CINNABAR THEMSELF. ONLY THING THAT BABY IDIOT KEPT IN THEIR MIND WAS THE PROMISE (WHICH IS SO FUCKING SWEET BUT STILL IDIOTIC) WHILE CINNABAR SAW THEM SLOWLY CHANGING AND GOING APESHIT COME ON.
I'd love to write something that makes actual sense but it's past midnight here and I'm tired and can't elaborate.
BUT STILL, DON'T THINK THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER, MY FRIEND.
also, we shall discuss over the "phost" ship.
the cure to this suffering is: the world reestarts, everyone is human, phos and antarc meet each other again and get married. the end
beautiful 😭
wait. wait. what the fuck.
Phos is to be shipped with Cinnabar and only Cinnabar.
We can bargain on whether or not Phos×Ghost would work, but that would be it.
And if you disagree sorry but youre wrong.
since i got all these hnk spoilers,,
imagine the lunarians as a whole overruling aechmea and choosing to keep existing in harmony with the gems, making peace with the earth gems and admirabillis and offering their resources to anyone interested in exchange for entertainment
they like the gems now that they've gotten to know the ones who've come to the moon, and find themselves feeling okay with an indefinite existence with them in an integrated society
the gems no longer needing to live in fear, the lunarians coming to terms with their existence and finding they don't mind it so much now that they're mixing things up, the admirabillis being able to come and go from the moon and sea and improving their genetic diversity and thriving
aechmea forced to continue his miserable existence while everyone else is content and flat out ignoring him
kongou and phos healing slowly with each other's support, watching things fix themselves peacefully and finally witnessing a world without constant suffering and loss
cairn rejecting aechmea and becoming a happy, adjusted gem and mending relations between peoples with the other moon gems help
happy ending where everything works out and no one else but aechmea has to suffer
yes thank you very much I needed that.
now please Ichikawa make this come true.
Just putting this out there, boys (tho I'll indeed write something cool when the chapter comes out-just like old times), but
Isn't it fucking ironic how the being most similar to a human (at least enough to activate Kongou) is that fucking gremlin (just kidding Phos you're the love of my life this community will protect you no matter what) twisted by wrath and despair?
JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
Chapter 80 spoilers
Continua a leggere
FUUUUUCK THIS IS INDEED A TURNAROUND HOLY SHIT I'LL TALK SO FUCKING MUCH ABOUT IT WHEN IT COMES OUT OFFICIALLY
Did I mention I love Phos
Yeah I love Phos.
At least 82 gems were ground to dust, and I know that because I counted it.
Anyway, here's a sloppy attempt to estimate the minimum amount of time has passed since red dimond.
1. There are 82 gems in this picture. If we assume the set up is a rectangle, and every rows and columns are presented here, that would make it 8 rows and 19 colums. That's 152 gems.
2. I can't remember if gems of hardness lower than 4 or 5 can't be recovered, and 28 gems are not enough of a sample group to calculate what percentage that minority take up, but let's round that up and say, 90-160 gems.
3. When the new morga and goshe were born, Yellow was 3630 years old (3597 + 1 year bc it's winter again right before phos got decapitated + 102 - 70 which is new morga's age). There are 27 gems since antarc is dead. Some gems were born at the same time like morga and goshe or cairn and ghost. In canon, red and blue alex also count as different gems. If we take the three of them out of the calculation, that makes it 24. On average, a new gem is born every 151.25 years. Then again, 24 gems are not enough samples to say that this is definitely the case, so I'll lowball it and say 120 years, since we're looking for the minimum.
4. Since there's at least 90-160 gems in this picture, that makes it at least 10,800-19,200 years.
5. If we stick with 151.25 years on average, that's 13,612.5-24,200 years.
To conclude, shit has been happening forever.
they're actually so fucking committed to ruining Kongou's life holy shit it's almost funny by now.