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Hi! Since so many of you message me every day asking for eye-color prompts I’ve already made, I decided to put ALL my eye-prompts into one single post. From now on, every new eye-prompt I create will also be added here.
Feel free to reblog or save this post, so you always have the full collection at your fingertips.
I hope you like it. ⋆.˚ 🌙ྀིྀི .⭒˚
“The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching”
1 Timothy 1:10 NLT
““If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.”
Leviticus 20:13 NLT
“That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.”
Romans 1:26-27 NLT
You can’t be gay and Christian
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If you think you committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and especially if you are worried about it. You didn’t. Like seriously you didn’t. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit I literally means your heart is hardened. You’ve denied His goodness and grace continually. You called them evil and devilish like the Pharisees did. THAT is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
What is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Can the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit take place today?
This article talks about it!! Please don’t let the devil lie to you. No one is too far gone!!! If you’re repentant than you are good!!!
Get back into the Gospel.
Remember that God owes you nothing and you being bitter at Him for not giving you everything your heart desires is blasphemous.
Remember: you deserve His wrath. You deserve to die under the judgment of your sin. It sounds harsh because it is; because you really are that wicked and He really is that holy.
And yet, He sent His Son as a propitiation for sinners, that His wrath should be satisfied, that whosoever would trust in Him would be granted eternal life.
Be done with the lies you’re holding onto. God is not a flimsy, romantic, soft lover who is failing at His job of making you happy. You don’t have the right to be angry at Him for the way your life is going. Who are you, O man, to talk back to God? The very fact that you’re alive at the moment is a testament of His mercy.
Fear Him more than you fear anyone or anything. Fear Him because He is good, and you are not.
Run, therefore, to Christ and be washed and sanctified.
Run, repent, get back into the Gospel.
Thoughts about “separating the art from the artist” ? I get disappointed every day knowing things I love and enjoy are created by crappy individuals. I get conflicted everyday
what’s a descendants opinion that will have you like this??!?
ill start🫡I dont really like carlos’ hair in D2.
His hair in D3 and D1 was so much better. His slickback was fye tho🙏
Hear me out!!! But….. I am not a fan of Ben. He gets way too much leniency especially in D3. Ben is just as responsible for all the crap in D3 as mal.
Number 2, Ben and Audrey wouldn’t have worked anyway. Ben would be too chicken to break up with her but he would’ve been miserable in that marriage. He didn’t want to be with her anymore, his mom canonically never even liked her and all the school really just tolerated her. Audrey is an hbic character, she’s like the Disney version of Cheryl blossom or Maddy Perez, hot and unlikable.
Number 3, I actually don’t hate mal. She wasn’t my favorite but I lowkey like her a bit, well especially my version of her
Number 4, Gil deserves more. He literally didn’t need to be in the 3rd movie because they don’t do anything with him. Like why is he even a character, even in D2 he was super unimportant
I think maybe a week ago, I thought I was supposed to pray for my mom. So one day when we were texting she was telling me about her health problems and I kind of texted a prayer throughout the conversation. I then kind of thought I was actually supposed to call her and pray. I didn’t want to do that. Why, different reasons but not really at the same time. One of the reasons is because well praying out loud in front of people makes me uncomfortable. Ik ik, I’m supposed to be uncomfortable but I ignored the feeling. Another reason was because I’m kind of more spiritual than my mom so I didn’t want her to think I was weird. I know it’s wrong and selfish to think like that, no need to beat me up about it. Well everyday I would battle in my head, “should I call her, should I not call her?” I would get two answers each time. Yes and no, a lot of the times it would override each other. I would get close to saying screw it and just calling her but I would feel awful about it like that was wrong. I prayed, prayed and prayed asking for “confirmation” because I wanted to make the right choice. I listened to the more stilling voice but it was also too comfortable and I was kind of like dang. I still waited and finally when I asked again for confirmation my grandma got sick and I didn’t know if it was confirmation or not but I ended up saying screw it. I texted my mom, we talked for a bit and later before the evening was over I prayed a short prayer over her.
Why am I typing this? Here’s why. I’m writing this because it’s absolute nonsense that I had to go through all of that instead of just praying on the phone. It’s nonsense to know that as much as I want to be righteous and do the right thing, no one acknowledges that obeying God actually doesn’t feel good. It actually felt awful before I finally caved and after. It’s bogus of ME to feel this way because God is a great God. He doesn’t deserve rebellion or disdain, or any of that. This is my mother, I’m supposed to love my mother enough to be cool with asking my mom if she needed prayer and to pray over the phone. But instead like a little punk I torture myself mentally into not doing it, only to cave in, not pray good and still feel like trash after.
I just got a revelation in psalm 46. The verse where it talks about God’s voice sounding like thunder, which is psalm 46:6. I realized Zeus from Greek mythology is the god of thunder. From what i remembered, he’s the god of the gods. He’s called the father to the gods and men. I realized a parallel to how the Lord is the king of all kings, and the Lord of all lords (revelation 19:16). He’s called the Heavenly Father. He gave the father of many nations title to Abraham and I paralleled it as how God is a father just as much as He is God. Basically I’m saying God is THE creator, and a lot of stuff that we usually don’t think about ties into God. He is the almighty for a reason.
SIMONE ASHLEY as KATE SHARMA BRIDGERTON | S03E05, Tick Tock
I have a confession to make. I do not care for her season 3 dresses. This one is by far one of the best ones but I hate the colors to them. I didn’t want to talk about this one because it’s inspired by the saree and I wanted to be respectful but something in me is just like, put her in an actual saree!!!!! They existed in the regency era I feel like if they wanted to make her more in touch with India wouldn’t having her wear dupattas and sarees be the perfect way to do it?
Plus I really wished they kept her teal color, it’s the perfect way to add to the bridgertom blue.
I don't know why Chad Charming being adopted is considered to be implausible by some. Cinderella, an orphan, choosing to adopt her firstborn to save him from a childhood like her own is the most in-character thing ever.
I actually find it quite pathetic of me and sad of me to be so upset about conservativenism. I saw a post from a pro life page I follow and I immediately thought I guess I have to post it. I couldn’t find it again because the page refreshed. I ended up finding it and reluctantly posted it. I put the word sigh up there honestly to throw people specifically my family who follow me on Instagram off track. Thank the Lord that only my grandma saw it and just ranted a bit about the post because she’s pro choice and left it at that.
I am pro life and I do agree with the abortion is murder statements, however, I never really cared that much. I feel bad because I don’t care all that much but it’s just such a dilemma. This upcoming election is going to be a nightmare.
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Please and thank you lol
I will say it again:
The LGBTQ+ person who asks Christians to "welcome and accept them without telling them they should change" is openly demanding that the Christians change. From being Christians, to being non-Christians.
Because Christ died to save you from who you used to be. When you become a Christian, you're choosing to change from who you were to who He tells you to be. That is Christianity. To tell Christians to stop talking and behaving like that is what they believe is to not only reject Christianity yourself, but demand that they reject it, too.
Do not listen to any influencer, pop culture icon, or person who says to you that Christians do not love LGBTQ+ people, because they say LGBTQ+ people should change who they are.
Christians change who they are. More accurately, they let Christ change who they are. Thats how they became Christians. Truth goes hand in hand with love—it is not opposed to it. But love is not anti-rejection. Love rejects plenty of things. Love rejects hatred, self-focus, and lies.
Don't listen to anyone, "Christian" or otherwise, who tells you different.
Also just want to add that not supporting the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t equal hatred or homophobia. If you have a promiscuous sister and you don’t believe in sleeping around, Christian or not, you are not going to hate her, you are just not supporting her lifestyle, it’s the same for the lgbt community.
Christian’s have done a horrible job on hating people who are apart of the lgbt but know Christ didn’t call us to hate them, He called us to love them.
Disagreeing and being against a lifestyle choice does not equal hate. I’m against my uncle being drunk but I don’t hate him. I’m against my parents being completely unkind to strangers but I don’t hate them. I hate the sin they are trapped in, not the sinner themselves. True love is warning someone they are in a burning building, not watching them go down with it.
Please stop equating alcoholism and dehumanization to queer identities. They are not one and the same.
Queer Christians would like to have a word with OP and everyone agreeing with them but I bet you guys are gonna keep othering us as long as we don’t follow your ideas for what being a Christian is 👍
Everytime you say you love the LGBT+ but do something that leads to them feeling rejected, judged, dehumanized, etc (like constantly comparing and associating them to people who actually harm others; or saying they need to change; for example), you’re not actually loving them. You’re just paying lip service to cover up your sense of self-righteousness and completely ignoring their perspectives on the matter.
Signed,
A queer Christian
PS. What do you all keep referring to when you say LGBT community? They’re not a monolithic, organized group. Ya know, just like Christians.
It's not "our ideas" of what Christians are. The word literally means "little Christ." The first usage was recorded in the Bible, in the context of a culture that affirmed homosexuality, using the term derogatorily.
So the word "Christian" means "Those non-affirming-of-our-lifestyle mini-Christs."
The word "Christian" literally means "acts like Christ." Christ claimed to be Yahweh. Yahweh declares homosexuality, "queerness," a sin. Therefore, there is no such thing as a queer Christian.
It would be like saying, "I'm a carnivorous vegetarian."
Words have meaning. You want to be in this social religious club that flashes a commonly-known name around, meets weekly, and picks and chooses what is true based on nothing but personal preference? Call it something else. Because that's not what "Christian" means.
"Christian" means you're picking up the flag of the Nazarene who lived 2000 years ago and claimed to be the God--the specific God that said, among many other things, "those who practice homosexuality shall not enter the kingdom of God." And that's the only flag you're flying.
Don't like that specific flag? Then you don't like Christianity. Stop pretending.
The Bible's pretty clear that there is such a thing as "the Church," which means people who fit the description "follower of the real Christ" and such a thing as people who call themselves the church but aren't, because they don't follow Christ. You'd have to be willfully ignoring huge chunks of the Bible not to see that, and to say things like "Christianity is not a monolithic, organized group." What do you mean by that? True Christians follow Christ. Christ is real and there are things about Him that are objectively true--and things about Him that are not. It's definable.
Finally, this whole premise of "love does not do anything that leads to someone feeling rejected, judged, dehumanized" comes from where? Says who? Who says that that's not what love does?
If a parent doesn't judge that a little kid's desire to smack their brother across the mouth is wrong, and as a result of that refusal to judge, just lets the kid keep doing it, that parent is unloving. Because the kid will ruin their relationship with their brother, deprive themselves of a positive sibling relationship, and the brother will be physically and emotionally injured, because that brother's natural conclusion is that the un-judging parent doesn't care enough about them to make a judgement call that leads to intervention.
So we've established that "judgement" can be a loving thing to do.
Now let's talk about "rejection." You can feel rejected but not be rejected. When the parent stops the kid from smacking their brother, the smack-happy kid can feel embarrassed and resentful toward the parent. Because on some level, they really wanted to hit their brother. Maybe they even felt it was the right thing to do, quite strongly. And the parent is doing what? Rejecting that desire that the kid has. If the kid identifies strongly enough with their desire to hit the brother? Then the kid will feel "rejected" when the parent rejects that desire by stopping it and declaring it to be wrong. The kid feels rejected. But is the kid rejected? No. The parent rejects that desire the kid is having—it's a wrong desire, it's something the kid shouldn't have and doesn't have to cling to or act on. And the parent knows it's going to hurt the kid. So in calling the desire "wrong," and rejecting it, the parent is doing the opposite of rejecting the kid. Who you are does not have to be what you desire.
So you can love someone while rejecting what they desire—and it's not the same as rejecting who they are.
Last one. Let's go to "dehumanized."
Who gets to decide what "human" means? If it means "never does something wrong that should be turned away from—" and therefore Christians should never make LGBTQ+ people feel like they've done something that's wrong that should be turned away from—then none of us are humans. Because, as stated before, other actions like drunkenness or pettiness or selfishness are wrong and should be turned away from—and that's what all Christians do. They admit their wrong and turn away from it. They actually believe that all humans do wrong things which should be turned away from.
So by definition, if a Christian is saying to someone, "what you're doing and accepting and identifying as is wrong, and it's hurting you, and you should turn away from it—and I know this because I used to do it too" then they're actually including LGBTQ+ people in their group already. They're saying "you're just like me. Except you haven't decided to turn from what's hurting you and embrace Christ as your identity yet. I'm inviting you to do that part."
It's all in 1 Corinthians 6.
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
So we've established that it is not inherently unloving to judge, and just because someone feels rejected or de-humanized doesn't mean that's what they are—nor does it mean those feelings are the result that the Christian intended or communicated.
So. Who gets to decide what "love" means? God, who is Love. Who gets to decide what "Christian" means? Christ, who is God. You can pretend. But you can't change what those words mean, any more than you can change what you are.
Repent and turn to the One who can. It is what I did. It is what all Christians do—we let Him change everything we are because we agree with Him, the righteous Judge, who said we needed it. And it would be unloving for me to say anything else, because letting someone harm themselves by rebelling against the God who judges justly without saying a word is not love.
I say this with the most loving tone possible. But I am not gonna respond to all that, fam. I know the arguments against homosexuality like the back of my hand 🤣 I was like you once. So I’m not gonna engage in a back-and-forth verse-tossing at you cuz until you unpack everything you just said with some ounce of humility. I’m not gonna waste your time.
But I’m also not surprised that you’ve automatically judged me and accused me of not being a Christian. Happens I suppose. But the fact that sexuality is your litmus test for it and not the Gospel or Jesus Christ himself is very telling.
You really should try listening to other Christians and perspectives about all this. You have plenty of brethren out and about who disagree with you, many of which are far more well-read and understanding than you seem to be. People who engage with the text from different angles than just the kind you come from but still are Christians.
My point remains.
It's not accusation. It's an "if -> then" statement. "If" you accept Christ's teachings, you're a Christian. If you don't, you're not. There's no accusation to it: it's just the way it works. Just like if I said, "wait, you can't mean it when you say 'I'm a vegetarian,' you're eating meat." that wouldn't be an accusation. It would be an observation, based on facts. Fact 1: you're claiming to be something. Fact 2: you're contradicting your own claim. That's not an accusation.
I'm not sure what part of the Gospel we're having a misunderstanding of.
The Gospel is: "your sin (a word which means 'your state of doing and being the opposite of what God commands') separates you from a loving and just God who is in charge, and who must punish sin or else He wouldn't be just. You have no way to solve your sin on your own. But if you repent (be willing to submit to Him changing who you are) and trust in Christ, He will take the just punishment that you deserved into Himself and make you a new creation, because He's not only just, He's loving."
What part of that is not Scriptural? What part of that am I wrong about? Because it seems to me like the only part I know for sure you disagree with is the definition of sin as "your state of doing and being the opposite of what God commands" and perhaps "repent."
Jesus said "Why do You call me Lord and not do what I say?" in Luke 6. James 2:26 says "faith without works is dead." The litmus test is the Gospel—the Gospel is that you were changed by Christ. If there's no evidence of that change (obedience) then that would be the basis for my observation (not accusation) that you're living inconsistently to the claim "I'm a Christian."
I don't care how well-read I or anyone else is. I don't care about mankind's viewpoints and how many of them there are. Not because, compared to my understanding, they're unimpressive—but because compared to God's Word they're worthless. Anything good anybody has to say is only that because it lines up with God's truth. Anything else is not good, and not worth listening to.
I have a friend who's a bank teller. He says they teach counterfeit investigators not to look at every new counterfeit that comes up, not to explore every possible variation on the genuine dollar—but instead to study the only real, genuine dollar. You don't have to know everyone's opinion and everyone's take on the truth. You just have to know the truth. I didn't make the truth up, and I didn't decide what it is. I just submit to it and then point to it. And if I didn't, I would be wrong, and it would remain the truth. Who am I, that my experiences or my reading or my opinions or the people I'm listening to should inform God's Word?
Bro, when you talk about Christ’s teachings, you’re referring to the Gospel accounts (stuff like Sermon On the Mount) none of which actually refer to homosexuality as we know it today. He was going for something even deeper in his sermons. Every New Testament teaching about sexuality otherwise has come from Paul, who is not Christ and people debate over what he meant in those verses.
You’re throwing in all these ideas and claims and verses to make yourself appear like you know what you’re talking about. I am not even accusing you of not being a Christian, just challenging your claim that LGBT+ folk by mere association and identity are inherently un-Christian or that it’s impossible to be queer and Christian (Where are my Side A and Side B people at? 🤣). Meanwhile you are implying to know my faith, know how God is working (or not working) in my life. But you don’t actually know me. You’ve never met me, never spoken to me in conversation. I can admit that in my own life I do not necessarily always live out Christ-likeness (just like everyone else). But I don’t think these views are part of that issue.
Your approach is a very problematic way to look at your neighbors, very imperialistic in nature I argue. It’s Othering 101 because you’re so hellbent on believing you’re right and that every word you speak is stamped with “God-approved” that everyone else who says differently isn’t.
You’re so caught up with your views of Christianity and the Bible that you can’t even consider the possibility that everything you’ve said could be wrong or possibly inaccurate or not the entire message.
Meanwhile I’ve learned that I don’t need absolute certainty in this area of my life (sexuality or Scriptures I mean). I can have faith on God being here with me. I have Him. Christ came down on the cross to save me. He loves me. I love and live for Him. If that means changing how I approach my queer neighbors, then so be it as long as the Gospel is not just shared but lived out.
Believe it or not there are also different interpretations or views of what sin is, what hell and heaven are, etc. So yes that includes sexuality.
I’m done replying to this, cuz this just feels like you’re yapping your mouth at me and treating me like a sounding board. Think of me however you want but you don’t actually know me. You’re speaking to a complete stranger who decided to spend time challenging you a little as a fellow believer. And then you go on about claiming that I, someone you’ve never actually met or spoken to, am not a Christian.
I don’t have to answer to you or defend myself. God can speak for me and if He decides to give me a huge slice of humble pie then so be it. He’s done that plenty of times in my life. But your approaches and assumptions about other people are dangerous and in fact quite antichrist.
Have a good day and God bless.
Even if what you were saying about the Sermon on the Mount were true, it would not change the fact that Jesus claimed to be God, and God declared homosexuality a sin in both the Old and New Testament. It also wouldn't cover the inferences in Genesis about God's plan for sexuality.
Just because "people debate" over Paul's teaching (which was referred to as Scripture by Peter, and is therefore just as valid as Christ's words in the Sermon on the Mount) does not mean that the truth hasn't been revealed. We debate over things that are obviously true beyond reasonable debate all the time: atheists still debate the existence of God. I'd be interested to know if you think that means God doesn't exist: simply because they're debating the matter.
Paul meant homosexuality; the same gender sleeping with the same gender. You have to do hermeneutical gymnastics to come up with any other excuse for what Scripture says.
Listen, you're the one telling me what I am and am not doing. You're making a lot of "you're so this," and "you're doing that" statements. But you're not actually responding to the points I'm making. How can I even consider that what I've believed has holes if you would rather tell me what kind of attitude I have than respond to what I've stated I've believed?
That's not the Biblical definition of "challenging another believer."
I'd like to know who this God is that you have faith in. You're telling me it's the God of Christians, and you're very insistent that I'm wrong to even suggest your faith is not in the God of Christians...but you're ignoring the only way that specific God has chosen to reveal Himself, which is Scripture.
It would genuinely be like me saying, "I don't have to understand qui-qui-quee's reblogs, I can make decisions based on who qui-qui-quee is." Well, that statement is meaningless. Because I can only put my faith in something known. And all I can know about you, all I have available to put my faith in, (in this context) is your reblogs. In this context, that's how you've chosen to let me get to know you. So if I ignore the only window I have into who you are, but still insist that my faith is in who you are, I'm just saying "my faith is in my idea of qui-qui-quee." Because I can't be saying my faith is in who you are—I've chosen to ignore your revelation of who you are. My faith's really in me, in this illustration.
I'm not saying that 100% for sure your faith is not in God. But every action we take is faith-based, and that faith has to be intentionally placed on something every time.
You don't have to answer me. But you have to answer God: how do you know what He wants with this whole homosexuality thing? Not "how do you know what people say He wants?" Not "how do you know what your ideal god wants?" Not "how do you know what you would want if you were a god?" Not "how do I you know what you feel like God wants?"
You have to answer this question to God: "Has my goal been to figure out what You want, as if nothing and nobody else matters except You? And have I accomplished that goal, or have I just gone with whatever feels most comfortable?"
For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before His eyes, and He is the one to whom we are accountable. Hebrews 4:12-13
We either submit to the God of Scripture, or we follow something else entirely.
Choose this day whom you will serve.
@quiche-quibbles is right.
I hate seeing this post going around because it is so much of the same thing we all have heard too many times before and it's exhausting making the same arguments again and again. So I've ignored it to this point. But...
It's exhausting being compared to murderers and drug addicts and such simply for inborn and unchangeable qualities. No, being attracted to one gender or the other does not automatically make you either evil or holy.
Secondly, as quiche-quibbles intimated, there are many queer Christians who do follow the biblical rules, who make the choice to abstain from sexual relationships forever. We're still LGBTQ+ and we're still Christians. (And I wonder if you would make that sacrifice yourself?)
And yes, we are called to accept and love people where they are. First of all, you can't force somebody to convert. Only God can transform a heart. Constantly harping on people about how they're wrong and sinful will only drive them away, and how will you teach them the right path when they've learned to avoid you?
What happens with all this talk about queer people "not being Christian" and "having to change before they can be loved" (side note, do you have to be sinless before you can be loved? Do you extend this attitude to your own pet vices? I wonder why God bothered to send His only Son to wash you in His BLOOD, WHILE YOU WERE STILL SINFUL, unless he did love you already, unless he already saw you as His beloved child, a member of the body of Christ, WHILE YOU WERE STILL SINFUL?)
This attitude doesnt encourage anybody to change, it simply makes it clear to queer people that there is no space for them in your community. And why would anybody be inspired to change by that kind of behavior?
Anyhow, if you actually have any interest in this topic, I'd recommend everyone read Gay and Catholic by Eve Tushnet. It's the best resource I've found for discussing the issue of what it is like to be queer and Christian, and I believe it would be very accessible to a straight audience as well. It might be eye opening if you've never really considered the issue from our side before.
I’d recommend you read Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry.
You’re ignoring everything that’s been said to this point, so I’m not surprising it feels exhausting—on both sides. I’ll summarize it, because it is a lot to read:
Inborn qualities they cannot change, as opposed to drug addicts and alcoholics - You’re misunderstanding the point. According to Scripture, all of those things are, in a sense, something we begin with that we can’t overcome on our own. It’s called “sin.” We don’t desire the things we were made to desire. That is the area in which the comparison is made. A substance to gain satisfaction from, a human relationship to gain satisfaction from—that’s all under the same Scriptural banner of “filling a need you were never made to have and do not have to have if you’ll submit to God.” So in that sense: yes, it’s “inborn” because all mankind has fallen from what God created them to be—and yes, it’s a choice to continue in it. That’s what the Gospel is. That’s what the plan for salvation from all sin is. Homosexuality, transgenderism, everything that;s not God’s original plan, they’re not special cases. They’re just in the long list of twisted desires from the fall. That’s all. But you’re absolutely right that being attracted to “one gender or the other does not automatically make you either evil or holy.” The Bible says “there is none good.” We’re all evil. Before Christ. That’s the Gospel.
there are many queer Christians who do follow the biblical rules, who make the choice to abstain from sexual relationships forever. We're still LGBTQ+ and we're still Christians. - I wonder if I’d make that sacrifice too. But by the grace of God I have sacrificed other things that my flesh wants, because I know that I can’t have that and Christ. So according to the definition of “Christian,” which is, “take up your cross, die to yourself, and follow Christ; identify with Christ, nothing else,” I would never call myself, “LGBTQ+.” No matter what feelings I have. I don’t classify myself by anything other than “identified with Christ.” Especially not “my feelings; my sexual impulses.” That’s plain in everything Jesus said. So, the statement is still true: “There is no such thing as a queer Christian.” Because to call yourself “queer” is not just to acknowledge that you sometimes have lustful desires outside of God’s will for you—it’s to identify with those. It’s to claim that’s part of who you are, when Christ says, “no, you were washed, you are clean, do not call what God calls ‘clean’ ’unclean.’” A Christian boasts in, identifies in, nothing but Christ. So you can’t be both.
And yes, we are called to accept and love people where they are. First of all, you can't force somebody to convert. Only God can transform a heart. Constantly harping on people about how they're wrong and sinful will only drive them away, and how will you teach them the right path when they've learned to avoid you? - Not if by “accept and love people where they are” you mean, “call sin ‘not sin.’” Or “never bring up the fact that they’re treating sin like it is not sin.” If that’s your definition of “accept” and “love people where they are,” it’s not Jesus’ definition. He told the woman at the well that she needed living water; He didn’t settle for just letting her live the way she was living. There’s no reason for Him to die if there’s no acknowledgement that something was wrong, and broken, which needed fixing. Secondly, no, of course you can’t force somebody to convert. And of course only God can transform a heart. We’re not commanded to force conversion or change hearts; we’re commanded to speak the truth in love, and obey in that way, and God will do the rest. Who’s “constantly harping on people about how they’re wrong and sinful?” This post was to Christians, about the lie that you can’t tell people that, to be a Christian, you must be changed by Christ. Thats what the post was about. Telling someone that what they’re doing is wrong and sinful is not the same as harping on someone. And that’s certainly not what this post was about. Again, read what I said: love rejects plenty of things. It is not anti-rejection. It’s just a matter of what ot rejects. What does the Bible say about
What happens with all this talk about queer people "not being Christian" and "having to change before they can be loved" (side note, do you have to be sinless before you can be loved? Do you extend this attitude to your own pet vices? I wonder why God bothered to send His only Son to wash you in His BLOOD, WHILE YOU WERE STILL SINFUL, unless he did love you already, unless he already saw you as His beloved child, a member of the body of Christ, WHILE YOU WERE STILL SINFUL?) - I didn’t say they had to be changed before they could be loved. You’re reading that into what I said, because your definition of “love” seems to be “don’t tell me when I’m wrong.” “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.” God loved the world. Which spurred Him on to action. To do what? Make the relationship right, after sin broke it. See how the sin has to be acknowledged? I never said otherwise. You're reading that into what I said. There’s a response to God’s love required. You can’t just say, “well He loves me, so I’ll keep living for the things that He died to save me from.” Don’t put words in my mouth.
This attitude doesnt encourage anybody to change, it simply makes it clear to queer people that there is no space for them in your community. And why would anybody be inspired to change by that kind of behavior? - It’s not my job or my goal, nor was it the command I was given, to “inspire them to change.” That’s up to God. Already said that. There is no space for someone who identifies with their sin, as if it is not sin, under the word “Christian.” Just like there is no space for someone who eats meat under the word “vegetarian.” That is how it works. Feels like, again, you’re exhausting yourself by arguing against things I never said, and ignoring what I did make clear.
“Your side” is not really a “side” in the grand scheme of things. I’m not saying that your experience is not personal, or unique—in a certain category. But broadly? You’re no different from me. The Bible says so. We’re both broken by sin. We both need Jesus the same amount—and we need Him to change us. Thats the point of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
Really good response here! As someone who struggles with same sex attraction, I don’t want my identity to be connected to sexual sin. I am a new creation, the old is gone. 💕
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I don’t like trump. Won’t vote him in. But if you celebrate what happened AT ALL you are just as bad if not worse than any mean thing he’s ever said. NO ONE deserves an attempt on their life.
that’s all I’m saying.
I will say it again:
The LGBTQ+ person who asks Christians to "welcome and accept them without telling them they should change" is openly demanding that the Christians change. From being Christians, to being non-Christians.
Because Christ died to save you from who you used to be. When you become a Christian, you're choosing to change from who you were to who He tells you to be. That is Christianity. To tell Christians to stop talking and behaving like that is what they believe is to not only reject Christianity yourself, but demand that they reject it, too.
Do not listen to any influencer, pop culture icon, or person who says to you that Christians do not love LGBTQ+ people, because they say LGBTQ+ people should change who they are.
Christians change who they are. More accurately, they let Christ change who they are. Thats how they became Christians. Truth goes hand in hand with love—it is not opposed to it. But love is not anti-rejection. Love rejects plenty of things. Love rejects hatred, self-focus, and lies.
Don't listen to anyone, "Christian" or otherwise, who tells you different.
Also just want to add that not supporting the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t equal hatred or homophobia. If you have a promiscuous sister and you don’t believe in sleeping around, Christian or not, you are not going to hate her, you are just not supporting her lifestyle, it’s the same for the lgbt community.
Christian’s have done a horrible job on hating people who are apart of the lgbt but know Christ didn’t call us to hate them, He called us to love them.
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