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I would not be so against Misako as a character if she had not sent Lloyd to Darkley's Boarding School for Bad Boys.
she was under a lot of pressure. Garmadon was falling to the bite more everyday. Wu was on the run.
Misako also knew that her child was going to be the Green Ninja. she knew she wanted to stop the fight from ever happening - or at least postpone it for as long as possible. she need to search for something, anything that could help her. that could help her family.
I do not fault her for her fear or for the pressure she was under.
what I cannot forgive is the environment that she left her son in. Darkley's was not a safe place. Lloyd was canonically bullied by the other students. he did not fit in.
and then he left Darkley's and he was homeless. while Lloyd was searching for the snake tombs, he was homeless. he had nowhere to go and nobody to rely on. it was incredibly unsafe for a child.
this is directly the fault of her choice to put Lloyd into Darkely's.
I believe that Misako had choices in where she left her baby. I am certain that there were other boarding schools. orphanages like exist within the Lego Ninjago world. hell - almost any random doorstep would likely have been a better choice than Darkley's was. I believe that choosing Darkley's was, at the very least, a bit abusive through neglect. there was a lack of care in that choice.
again - I understand that Misako was in no state to raise Lloyd. I will never fault her for giving him up and giving him to strangers given that nobody she knew was in position to take him.
I just needed her to pick somewhere reasonable.
and maybe, just maybe, send Lloyd a letter? because I also hate the fact that she stayed in contact with Wu but never tried to contact Lloyd. it is strange.
and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't dislike the Garmadon-Misako-Wu triangle. because while it's a bit strange, the heart can change over time and she seemed genuinely split between the brothers in their youth. I don't see any real harm in the way she and Wu interact
she just seemed to care more about her estranged husbands' brother than her actual son and that bothered me
So since I was thinking about 18Ichimatsu, I have a question: What’s going on with him and Atsushi?
Pretty much from season one, we know Todomatsu is close friends with Atsushi. Close enough that Todomatsu invites him out to a mixer (Though he kind of had no choice). Not to mention Atsushi trusts Todomatsu enough to set up a double date and lets Todomatsu take someone else that isn’t him.
And Todomatsu feels comfortable enough doing whatever the fuck this is:
Without Atsushi seeming phased in the slightest.
They seem like sort of casual friends at first (if you can call them casual). Atsushi is everything Todomatsu wants. To be good with women, to be seemingly charming, having a job, and a fancy ass car.
But then the movie comes around and it turns out Atsushi hung out with Ichimatsu more than he did Todomatsu.
I don’t think they were strangers or anything back then. Atushi has no problem with adult Todomatsu tagging along to karaoke. Thinking it’s his baby faced teen self, of course. So they interacted enough to be somewhat comfortable with each other.
He even shows concern for both Todomatsu and Ichimatsu’s relationship with their other brothers.
When 18Atshushi is on screen, it’s often hanging out in their friend group. Ichimatsu mostly included.
So what happened there? Did Atsushi and Ichimatsu grow apart? Honestly, yeah.
They don’t seem to interact at all. They don’t even mention each other. Aside from the brief moments of mention in the movie. Where they’re mostly just…around each other.
The only other time we see Atsushi and Ichimatsu interact, was the season 3 skit “There’s nothing I can do”. Ichimatsu was an officer trying to talk Atsushi off the ledge.
Atsushi’s reason for being up on the ledge- is that he feels alone, and no one understands his pain. The advice he gets from others isn’t helpful. Ichimatsu’s the one who speaks honestly about how he feels. He gives Atsushi the choice to do what he wants. That, in its own weird way, inspires Atsushi to continue living.
It looks like they did grow apart in adulthood. They don’t hang out like they used to. They don’t text, and they don’t really have the same goals or desires in life anymore.
Still, maybe this skit is giving us some insight into what their relationship was. Or what it could be, going forward. Ichimatsu’s the friend that doesn’t have any grand expectations for Atsushi. He lets the guy speak, and gives him the space to make his own decisions. Looking out for each other in their own weird ways.
if i sent analysis asks about why I dislike yanag/ta and why y/naich/ is my NOTP would that be unwated or annoying? I'm not interested in hating on peoples' ships, but I just genuinely cannot think that ichimatsu feels anything but resentment for the guy, imo. Primarily this is because i see the ship as bullyxvictim tbh.
Feel free to delete this and just post something like "anon who asked about y/naich/ analysis, please keep that to yourself" and put a 🐈⬛️ for extra clarity
Honestly I find this kind of interesting to talk about. No hate to you of course, you’re allowed to dislike and like what you like. I’m just gonna use this an excuse to ramble.
It’s funny because when I first watched the movie, I didn’t think of Yanagita and Ichimatsu as a paring at all. I’ll get into my thoughts of Yanagita in a moment- but with them as a paring? It never had enough weight or served a deeper purpose outside of Ichimatsu for me to consider it.
I’m not a hard core shipping person, but I do like Yanaichi fan art and fan fics. I think the way some people portray Yanagita can be wholesome and interesting. Turning him into their own character sometimes. Especially with comparing Ichimatsu’s adult relationship with his teenage one. Whether it’s an unrequited love, or as a rekindled romance.
So that’s my thoughts on the ship. People tend to make Yanagita his own character from the movie since he doesn’t have much personality in the movie. It’s a good way to give Ichimatsu some development or romantic interest if you want that for him. It’s okay to like it, and it’s okay to dislike it.
(The rest of this is more character analysis territory, read as you please.)
As for Yanagita as a character, I don’t think I could call him a bully.
I can see why that’s a conclusion people would come to. Yanagita isn’t a very attentive friend. Calling him a good friend is definitely difficult.
The shit he talked behind the sextuplets backs was definitely uncalled for. It’s hurtful, and it’s mean. Calling them annoying when they’re all together. Especially for what was happening at the time. For Ichimatsu I can definitely see how that’s not just an insult to them, but their personhood.
He doesn’t say it to their face, it was heard none the less. None of their classmates really treated the sextuplets like individuals.
They’re a joke, a bit to be commented on and shown to friends for a good laugh. Yanagita is one of the people in the audience that are tired of the bit. He thinks it’s annoying and unfunny. Like it’s something the sextuplets do on purpose.
And yeah. He’s a dick for that. Treating the sextuplets like a bit instead of actual individual people really sucks.
Still, I struggle to call him a bad person.
The biggest whistle would be the worry he and the rest of the friend group feel for Ichimatsu and his brothers.
When the group of friends are all hanging out, it’s usually Yanagita that brings Ichimatsu back into the conversation. Yanagita greets Ichimatsu first, and they even share regular physical contact.
When Yanagita hands Ichimatsu a weird ass shirt that isn’t Ichimatsu’s style- he doesn’t smirk, or giggle. It just seems like he lacks an understanding and awareness of Ichimatsu’s comfort.
Which, arguably, feels like Yanagita’s biggest flaw.
Don’t get me wrong, Ichimatsu is also responsible for his own discomfort. Ichimatsu could’ve spoken up, or refused anything he didn’t want to do.
But as his friend, Yanagita didn’t seem like he was really being all that attentive either. Yanagita suggested a shirt that wasn’t Ichimatsu’s style. He fails to notice that Ichimatsu doesn’t really fit in with everyone. And in the karaoke booth, he’s among the rest of them that can’t tell the ichimatsu they’re talking to isn’t him.
Yanagita thinks he knows Ichimatsu. But Ichimatsu doesn’t want to be known as who he is, because who he really is- isn’t a likable person.
Yanagita is a chill dude. He’s still friendly with his friends after high school, and doesn’t have any loud or stand out traits. To me, he’s a cruiser. He doesn’t think too hard about things, he’s just there for the good time. Not the long time.
In the future, I’d like to do an 18ichimatsu analysis. But for right now, here’s the TL;DR:
Ichimatsu was a kid who wanted the approval and companionship of his peers. So what does he do? People please, and stomp down his own comfort to fit in and be liked. Even he never really fits in. Ichimatsu isn’t loved for who he is. Ichimatsu isn’t truly close with anyone. The person they know, isn’t really Ichimatsu.
But to Ichimatsu, at least he has friends.
Yanagita most likely saw Ichimatsu the way he saw his other friends. While they do seem closer than the rest- Ichimatsu didn’t really fit in like everyone else.
I could write essays on Osomatsu’s internal battle with his identity and place in the world and how he’s slowly accepting change into his life but it’s late so I will only talk specifically about season 2’s ending.
Because nothing gets me more then the fact that Osomatsu is seen actually questioning his place in the world, and since he’s always leaned on his family to define him when he’s on his own he has no idea who he is. We see this inner struggle accumulate in a strong dissociation episode and a talk with Totoko where he honest reveals that he has no idea who he is.
And we know from the magazine left on the counter that Osomatsu was at least looking into his own place to live. I don’t think it’s a coincidence either that the very next day after his talk he calls a brother meeting to discuss his possible independence. What that tells us is that Osomatsu is actually acknowledging a problem, his problem, and making strides to correct it. He doesn’t know who he is without his family so what does he do? Take time away, figure himself out.
Then they die and that puts a wrench in the whole plan, but the thing that Interests me is the fact that Osomatsu admits that he remembers what his big announcement is but straight up doesn’t bring it up again because he says it’s ‘not important’. We know from season 3 that Osomatsu never moves out, nor does it look like he plans on it.
I think the whole dying and coming back to life thing kind of shot his confidence in his decision, and especially with his brothers dying and his parents grieving. I think he made the excuse of needing to be home before making any of those kinds of decisions. Eventually he made enough excuses where he didn’t feel the need to leave anymore.
After all, his brothers are now jobless and back at home where they started, their parents wanted them to be together, and Osomatsu wasn’t expected to do a damn thing.
And if you look at the story, and I mean like tilt it on it’s side and look up into it, you’ll notice that none of the brothers really know how they became neets. They have different stories and theories, but none of them really know the specific point that made them this way. I think what Osomatsu did, make excuses to stay home until he got too comfortable, was exactly what happened.
It’s just interesting to see how in the first season Osomatsu is digging his heels in and refusing change, and though we see minor changes to his character in season 2, while he’s reluctant to change, we see how he ultimately can change on the surface level. Getting a job, and keeping a job for one thing. When it comes to bigger changes like moving out, he’s willing even if he’s reluctant.
I definitely like seeing these kinds of developments for these characters, the ones that are so far on the end of one spectrum dipping their toes on the other side and wondering what it’s like.
Anyway that’s it for my midnight rambles, take this screenshot that always makes me laugh as a treat for making it this far
Hey so real quick, I wanna add to this thought post.
I've recently rewatched all the seasons and this analysis was made like three years ago. In any case, later on in that post I said something about Osomatsu making excuses to stay home so he doesn't have to change, but I think it's more on the nose than that.
Most prominently in the first two seasons, there's the idea that the brothers can do anything if they do it together. We see this idea repeated at least once per brother. Not just with physical threats, but it's also in more subtle ways like all of them getting jobs to help their parents, or watching women at the beach together.
When Osomatsu is separated from his brothers in season 2, he said he feels lonely. We know he was most likely about to take the steps to making his own decisions. Maybe move out, but he doesn't get the chance to make that announcement.
You know what he does when he remembers the announcement later on?
He ignores it. Changing the subject to include all of them and not making it about him or his feelings. Once again, he reverts back to thinking about everyone and not making it about himself when it mattered.
And if Osomatsu doesn’t care about it, why should anyone else? Why focus on one person’s emotional bullshit when the bigger picture affects them all?
But when you escape eternal torment because you and your family stuck together? I feel like that solidified Osomatsu's comfortability in his codependency. He couldn't have done it on his own, Osomatsu doesn't think he couldn't.
So in his mind, of course he’d abandon the thought of independence when his reality reenforces that they’re stronger as a team. Rather then Osomatsu being on his own.
oh man
to your point about them reiterating that they're sextuplets, that's literally like, the key idea of the 66 opening theme
the whole theme is about "The Strength of Six"
via google translate so deffo not perfect but this is the section for the 'tuplets
"If we get six people together we can do anything. Let's do a fun, mutually beneficial six-person study session. If we get six people together we'll all be friends, Osomatsu-kun."
and this is the section for Chibita
"I'll do anything, even if I'm alone. I'm a healthy little guy. I'll eat six oden noodles and round up six people and defeat them. Everyone's a friend, Osomatsu-kun."
The lyrics are contrasting the capability of the sextuplets against the capability of Chibita
The idea that they're only really capable as a group of six has been there in their dynamic and characterization since the 60's
I could write essays on Osomatsu’s internal battle with his identity and place in the world and how he’s slowly accepting change into his life but it’s late so I will only talk specifically about season 2’s ending.
Because nothing gets me more then the fact that Osomatsu is seen actually questioning his place in the world, and since he’s always leaned on his family to define him when he’s on his own he has no idea who he is. We see this inner struggle accumulate in a strong dissociation episode and a talk with Totoko where he honest reveals that he has no idea who he is.
And we know from the magazine left on the counter that Osomatsu was at least looking into his own place to live. I don’t think it’s a coincidence either that the very next day after his talk he calls a brother meeting to discuss his possible independence. What that tells us is that Osomatsu is actually acknowledging a problem, his problem, and making strides to correct it. He doesn’t know who he is without his family so what does he do? Take time away, figure himself out.
Then they die and that puts a wrench in the whole plan, but the thing that Interests me is the fact that Osomatsu admits that he remembers what his big announcement is but straight up doesn’t bring it up again because he says it’s ‘not important’. We know from season 3 that Osomatsu never moves out, nor does it look like he plans on it.
I think the whole dying and coming back to life thing kind of shot his confidence in his decision, and especially with his brothers dying and his parents grieving. I think he made the excuse of needing to be home before making any of those kinds of decisions. Eventually he made enough excuses where he didn’t feel the need to leave anymore.
After all, his brothers are now jobless and back at home where they started, their parents wanted them to be together, and Osomatsu wasn’t expected to do a damn thing.
And if you look at the story, and I mean like tilt it on it’s side and look up into it, you’ll notice that none of the brothers really know how they became neets. They have different stories and theories, but none of them really know the specific point that made them this way. I think what Osomatsu did, make excuses to stay home until he got too comfortable, was exactly what happened.
It’s just interesting to see how in the first season Osomatsu is digging his heels in and refusing change, and though we see minor changes to his character in season 2, while he’s reluctant to change, we see how he ultimately can change on the surface level. Getting a job, and keeping a job for one thing. When it comes to bigger changes like moving out, he’s willing even if he’s reluctant.
I definitely like seeing these kinds of developments for these characters, the ones that are so far on the end of one spectrum dipping their toes on the other side and wondering what it’s like.
Anyway that’s it for my midnight rambles, take this screenshot that always makes me laugh as a treat for making it this far
Hey so real quick, I wanna add to this thought post.
I've recently rewatched all the seasons and this analysis was made like three years ago. In any case, later on in that post I said something about Osomatsu making excuses to stay home so he doesn't have to change, but I think it's more on the nose than that.
Most prominently in the first two seasons, there's the idea that the brothers can do anything if they do it together. We see this idea repeated at least once per brother. Not just with physical threats, but it's also in more subtle ways like all of them getting jobs to help their parents, or watching women at the beach together.
When Osomatsu is separated from his brothers in season 2, he said he feels lonely. We know he was most likely about to take the steps to making his own decisions. Maybe move out, but he doesn't get the chance to make that announcement.
You know what he does when he remembers the announcement later on?
He ignores it. Changing the subject to include all of them and not making it about him or his feelings. Once again, he reverts back to thinking about everyone and not making it about himself when it mattered.
And if Osomatsu doesn’t care about it, why should anyone else? Why focus on one person’s emotional bullshit when the bigger picture affects them all?
But when you escape eternal torment because you and your family stuck together? I feel like that solidified Osomatsu's comfortability in his codependency. He couldn't have done it on his own, Osomatsu doesn't think he couldn't.
So in his mind, of course he’d abandon the thought of independence when his reality reenforces that they’re stronger as a team. Rather then Osomatsu being on his own.
Rewatching Ososan and lowkey wondering if the nightmare in season four is in anyway related to the invisible incident from season two.
The nightmare ends with the sextuplets asking their parents if they could tell they switched bodies, only to be told it didn’t matter.
Which felt just a tad similar to the episode in season two, when the first person they talk to about noticing something different is their parents. Who, of course, see them as the characters they are.
Obviously they didn’t like that and freaked out abt it. I doubt there’s any real correlation with the two episodes, but I think it’s an interesting idea that each brother has the same fear of being indistinguishable from one another to their parents. Or at the least, misunderstood and not seen as individuals.
My honest reaction to Tales of The TMNT getting cancelled early just like Rise did, leaving two incredibly inspired and heartfelt iterations axed while 2012 TMNT got 5 seasons of mid
Omg ep 11 was so funny! I think it’s so comical that all the sextuplets had the same existential horror esque dream about having personalities and bodies indistinguishable from each other that eventually they all just meld into one other and then later that day have an issue where they’re all linked in some way mentally and physically to the point where they all get physically ill when one of them is unwell- like lmao
I feel like a fraud because I claimed the title of ososan’s d1 glazer but now that means I can’t complain about s4… literally me rn
The only thing I’ll say is that I think it’s likely we’re gonna get a season 5 announcement soon after s4 ends and that it’ll go back “normal” (closer to s3 dynamics/humor) once fall hits. I think thats partially why this season is so short, its just meant to be the 90th anniversary season.
As I said before, I don’t mind the more laid back slice of life vibe and I think there have been some really great episodes this season, but I wish there was some emotional payoff. In s3, we got some longer skits and full episodes that had great writing and were hilarious. But imo that witty, subtle writing has just been absent in most of the episodes this season. i do think this is temporary because ososan really can’t sustain itself with this pace.
The thing I love most about Pomni’s fight with Jax is just how human it feels. Before this point everyone gets hurt with weapons, or rough pushes, but there’s nothing as personal and as intimate as beating someone with your bare hands.
The first thing she does is bite his legs when he tries to run away. She chokes him while on top of him. She yanks his ears. Claws at his back.
They can’t feel pain and they can’t be injured so fighting him was a purely emotional response. Every tactic she used was desperate and messy and so human.
