The gods in Mythic Ocean are really awesome characters (and I may talk about them further in the future) but one that intrigues me the most is our stand in/point of view character aka the Advisor.
(I may include heavy spoilers ahead cause I want to talk a whole lot about this, also apologies for innacuracies this is mostly just ramblings from how I perceive the aspects of the game)
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It's apparent that the Advisor-Historian (I'll refer them simply as Advisor for simplicity sake) has been keeping archives of countless worlds with how much books they have stored in the beginning of the game. The cycle has happened possibly for many eons where different gods would take turns creating the universe until the end of the cycle and everything is back to square one. For as long as this cycle system stands their role is set in stone as explained by Elil, the only entity that retains his memory throughout the cycles—getting to know the gods, who are candidates for the next creator, and acting as their advisor to shape their decisions and character in order to help their chance in becoming a creator. It is up to the advisor to either steer them towards a better path or for them to sink into their vices and setbacks.
According the dialouges, the Advisor appears to be unassuming at first—which is understandable as at the start they are adjusting to their responsibilities while having no prior recollection. The range of dialogue choices could potray the Advisor to have a variety of characteristics (mainly for the sake of freedom of choices for players), though at it's core the Advisor seems to be rather open minded to multiple possibilities and perspectives. Whether the choices may be more or less favorable for the development of a god, they would present the choice to be as well meaning as possible as either outcome may have a sliver of good intention for said god.
While with the majority of the gods the Advisor makes choices in order to get to know them better on top of shaping their resolve, Gnosis' approach is more different. There is only one major plot point involving them and the rest are completely optional actions—and all above involves the collected pages from the Library of Antiquety. What makes the arrangements with Gnosis unique is that the choices that the Advisor could make is for uncovering their forgotten past with the pages as the price.
Going through with this until the end reveals that the Advisor was the very one who's responsible for the entire cycle arrangement as they were the Original Creator that stood above the other gods, growing tired as the world they once reigned long ago grows stagnant and made the decision to gave the other gods the opportunity to create their own world. This may have created an inner conflict within the Advisor as the person that imposed such is either long gone or locked so deeply within their current self that has no clue on how to undo it. It doesn't matter to the grand scheme of things that they gained this awareness as after the cycle ends they would lose all this knowledge and started again from zero. I find it interesting that Elil remarked this that he finds it funny that Gnosis managed to always tempted them with these informations that's considered as scraps, hence it can be assumed that this may not be the first time it occured that the Advisor got too curious in finding out their identity and it may continue to happen as long as the Advisor keep seeking on digging for their buried identity.
Now after all that were revealed I would like to bring up an interesting driving point of the story, that is the powers of the Advisor's words. It was brought upon by Elil that the god that has the highest contender to be a creator is one that are motivated enough with carrying out their resolve and their moral stance. Such motivations would come from Advisor's words that would power the gods by strengthening an ideology that they suggested;
With Amar, the Advisor could either nudge them to stay with their easygoing and going with the flow way or taking a more proactive role in order to be able to protect his home when trouble arise.
With Lutra, it's either they would just be left to their urges to feed continuously without restraints or the Advisor could keep on reminding Lutra to feed with moderation in order for them to be considerate of their resources for the future as well for other living creatures that needs said resources too.
Their words are powerful with the amount of impact that it caused towards the gods they advised, I like to think that it may either due to his standing being an equivalent of a god and since his responsibility was to advise his powers would definitely be the strongest when he advices another god or it was due to their once standing as an original creator and even if their current self is a remnant of their old identity, they would still be powerful enough when doing certain things as they once stepped in to stop Elil with the other gods when he was still a reigning creator.
In addition to the Advisor's spoken words, it was also revealed that their written words possess a great amount of power too as such is reflected on the scattered pages that archived the happenings of an old world. The pages could be manufactured to be a crown, an item that could increase a god's potential to become a creator, or as mentioned before it can be given to Gnosis for it to (somewhat) mutually benefit the Advisor and Gnosis themselves—it comes down to making use of it to change the odds of the gods or to seek answers for themselves. I would assume that once the Advisor's responsibility shifts to be the Historian, their powers would be reflected towards the words that they written down. Perhaps some of the power could also originate from the creator and/or world that they were writing on, as if reaping some of it's essence into the pages, though this may be more of a stretch.
One more things that I would like to bring up is the Advisor's arrangement with Elil. He mentioned that he was once just like any other gods that's a part of the cycle, that is he has the opportunity to be a creator and loses his memory after each cycle. What intrigues me is that, despite the cycle has been imposed and the rules mentioned prior is set to affect everyone, how would the Advisor has the capability to make an agreement of such degree with Elil? In order to impose a new set of rules only to Elil specifically the Advisor would require to have the capabilities of their old self as an Original Creator as it was mention the only way for the a god to be taken cared off permanently is if the Original Creator wills it. Or is it possible that the Advisor would regain some of their power when being the Historian? It's an idea worth exploring actually, shall pin it for a headcanon. 🤔
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I hope my rambles are satisfactory, if anyone is going to read it. If not this at least helps with laying out my thoughts regarding the Advisor as I have quite a huge interest regarding this elusive and faceless character. I may write down on rambles regarding the gods next, maybe not as long as these but who knows.
My god I got fixated on Mythic Ocean in the big year of 2025 but the little fandom that it had probably cease to exist years ago so I suppose I'll just going to be supplying myself for the time being (or just go nuts w the ideas in my head)
Only finding 1 unfinished fanfic on AO3 is miserable sobs
Even more miserable probably is that I may be the only Gnosis fan out there (though that means I can gatekeep them 😈)
I hope I can find someone, anyone to talk about this game and its beloved characters
hyperfixation please stay with me long enough to complete the project. hyperfixation do not fade. hyperfixation finish what you started for the love of god
Hello this is the anon from before! The specific characters I was wondering about would be Lutra and Eli but in all honesty I would love to hear about any of them! Also did you intend to have two characters who have similar motives, Gnosis and Alethea, originally or did you make one and then realized you should have the other to have them be two sides of the same coin?
Okay, I might talk more about Lutra and Elil for another post because I like the question about Gnosis and Alethea (plus in general they don't get as much love).
There are a lot of gods out there that are representations of wisdom or knowledge, but the interpretation and other associations can be wildly different. For instance in Greek mythology both Hermes and Athena are gods of wisdom, but Athena is also a god of strategic warfare and textile arts while Hermes is also a messenger and god of merchants. We didn't plan on Gnosis and Alethea to be dual gods of knowledge, but we wound up with both of them representing different aspects or branches if you will of wisdom. In fact, there was yet another god we had planned that we had to scrap that was going to be more closely associated with Alethea- I have a post from some time ago with more detail on them.
Gnosis is a representation of order. Gnosis is infinitely patient and calculating, never taking unnecessary risks and forever collecting data. As far as Gnosis is concerned, they are the god most suited to create because they are the denizen of order and rational logic.
Alethea is the god of knowledge. Scholarly pursuits are a passion. Alethea fervently gathers data not because she wants to systematize and strategize for her own gains, but because she has an insatiable curiosity and desire to use information to answer questions and propel things forward. In the vein of opposites you could say she is the hot to Gnosis' cold.
All of this is why, well what happens in the game happens. Super vague for spoilers. The other similarity between these two is that they were the only gods that in a sense 'absorbed' some of the traits from gods we had to cut. Gnosis originally was going to be a god of chaos. Some deep sea terror inspired by the bloop and lovecraftian horror terrors. It then inherited the role of order when we had to cut the temple god. Alethea was always going to be the god of knowledge. Her working title was "The Astronomer". Rather than inheriting a role, she inherited passion from the cut god the artificer.
Here are a few concept sketches of each for your perusal.
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kaledo-art
