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Wait, I'm sorry, I appreciate that Disney is terrible but are you implying Doctor Who having an actual budget would be bad? The appeal is that it looks bad? I literally found it unwatchable because it looks so bad, but that's what you like about it?

That’s EXACTLY what I’m implying. I’m genuinely sorry that it’s a problem for you, but I, and many other people in the fandom! unironically find Doctor Who’s terrible special effects to be part of its charm. They were terrible in 1963 when they introduced the roving trash cans that are the Daleks, and they’re terrible in 2022 when they use simplistic and blatant greenscreen to put the characters on the roof of a space train going through a wormhole. Doctor Who can and should have good acting, good writing—compelling characters and well-constructed both episodic and season-long plots—and a soundtrack that makes me tear up sometimes (@Murray Gold I miss you). But special effects that look like they were made in someone’s garage and/or on iMovie, I would argue, contribute to the core themes of the joy of imagination and the principle that anyone can be a hero like the Doctor and her companions. Yes, you, with your plastic sonic screwdriver toy and your cardboard suit painted to look like a Cyberman! That’s about all the BBC has, and if they can do it, so can you!

The only good special effects on Doctor Who should be regeneration and opening and stepping into the TARDIS, and the latter should be a accomplished mostly with physical effects (which it is). Keep your nasty budgetses; we want the same spacesuit used over and over and obviously plastic alien masks.

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mclennonyaoi

i think it’s very very interesting that adhd and autism comparisons and solidarity are very prominent in the neurodiverse community, but autism and schizophrenia, another disorder that has a lot of ties and similarity to autism almost NEVER gets brought up in relation to it. i wonder why that is.

mclennonyaoi

i think it’s also very interesting how much antipsychotic ableism there is inside the neurodiverse community, despite the fact that a lot of neurodivergencies share quite a few traits with schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders.

mclennonyaoi

people with autism will go “oh i hate when people “go why can’t you act normal” it’s so ableist” and then hold psychotic people up to often a higher standard, despite the fact that a lot of psychosis inducing disorders affect the way you think, similar to how autism does- particularly schizophrenia. it’s hmmm. hm!

mclennonyaoi

this post got a little bit more attention that i thought it would, so i’ll try to explain:

autism and schizophrenia are both neurodevelopmental disorders that were are so close they used to be considered the exact same disorder, with autism being thought of as the earlier stage of schizophrenia. schizophrenia and autism are often co-morbid, with psychotic disorders having a much higher chance of having autism- and autistic people having a higher chance of having schizophrenia though that’s not alway the case, they’re also often misdiagnosed for eachother. autism and schizophrenia are both on a spectrum, that autism spectrum and schizophrenia spectrum (or schizospec), respectively.

they share common differences in cognition, mostly relating to nonverbal reasoning, how we think and reason and come to come to conclusions- memory, often less the storing of memories but encoding and learning and organization and retrieval of memories- and language, articulating things in a coherent way. or talking. having conversations or talking in ways that make sense, with both schizophrenics and autistics having much looser association patterns.

and though the reasons and the direct way our brains do this differently varies from autism to schizophrenia, enough that they are not the same thing as once thought, but instead share a lot of similarities.

we both have a hard time reading facial emotions, and responding of those facial features- i.e. taking it as a cue, (though schizophrenics more often jump to conclusions surrounding facial expressions if they’re hard to decipher, and autistics more often just ignore them entirely) we both struggle with eye tracking, following peoples vision and line of sight, as well as visual processing. there’s also evidence to suggest that schizophrenics also avoid eye contact, though it’s not as a pronounced thing as with autistic people.

both autism and schizophrenia are genetic, meaning they’re passed down through family. autistic people often have trouble controlling their facial features or voices expressing emotions in a “normal way”. and schizophrenics experience something called flat affect, meaning our faces look “flat” or numb- think stereotype, the “psycho stare” same with flat voices, that’s also flat affect. we don’t express a lot of emotion verbally or nonverbally. this doesn’t mean schizophrenic people don’t experience emotions. it means we have a limited affect of showing those emotions. we both experience sensory input more sensitively as well.

socially, autistic people and schizophrenic people both struggle, though it’s shown that schizophrenic people often don’t express an “appropriate” emotional response for a situation, and autistic people don’t ask a lot of questions of their conversation partner or “reciprocate” socially.

there are SO MANY more similarities and i’ll add them as i think of them, but this is all i could think of off the top of my head and come up with from a cursory search on google. 👍 feel free to add on.

magz

In another branch of this post's reblogs, @lilyliveredlittlerichboy pointed this out:

ID: Screenshot of a reblog by @/lilyliveredlittlerichboy, that says, "Interestingly: Schizophrenia is disproportionately diagnosed in Black and brown people, and often used as an excuse to take those same people out of their communities and put them in homes or psych wards cus they're 'dangerous'

I sure do wonder whether that has anything to do with the demonisation of schizo-spec and psychotic conditions 🤔 in this rather white neurodivergent movement here on tumblr dot com 🤔 (and elsewhere)" End of ID.

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And yes, that is right. This is partly because:

Schizophrenia, then known as Dementia Praecox, was previously considered a mostly non-threatening, yet pitiable diagnosis. It was seen as a cause for why some women could not properly fulfill their societal role as wives and mothers. It was a white middle-class women's diagnosis. This was when the stigma was lower, though still dismissive. . .

In the 1970s and 1980s, Schizophrenia was used as a diagnosis against Black civil rights activists and Black men who "committed crimes". The impression was that these Black men were violent, unjustly paranoid against authority and medical professionals, and their want for civil rights was from a lack of sanity. It was a reason to institutionalize Black people for their perceived threat to society and their wanting civil rights, which was deemed suspicious. This pathologization of rebelling against racist oppression, distrust of corrupt institutions of power, and defiance of oppressive authority has had previous precedents in psychiatry. This aspect of pathologizing Black self-preservation is reminiscent of "Drapetomania". This was a mental illness diagnosis coined in the mid-1800s to describe a "mental affliction that induces negro slaves to want to run away". The general idea has been done before. The changed impression of schizophrenia spread from the United States then worldwide. It became a Black disorder, becoming much more stigmatized. . .

Autism used to be known as Infantile Schizophrenia or Childhood-Onset Schizophrenia, as part of the Schizophrenia Spectrum. The speculation and research of Autism as a distinct diagnosis from Schizophrenia was most prominent in the early 1970s. Then it was officially added as its own separate diagnosis in the DSM-3 in 1980. The impressions of these diagnoses heavily diverged. . 3a. Autism is less likely to be diagnosed early in Black people, Latinos of color, and women. Also less likely for them to even be officially diagnosed in the first place nor receive accommodations at all. Even when parents express concern, including when they have health insurance that covers diagnostic services, mental health professionals' diagnosis is often delayed by years. There also happens to be a worse outcome and help for black autistics and autistics of color as opposed to white autistics. Class and money do complicate autism diagnosis and recognition in places where diagnostic services are costly. However, class is not an easy thing to pinpoint as the main reason for the diagnostic and resource disparity amongst racial and ethnic minorities. Autism is thus seen as a condition for mainly young white boys. . 3b. Black children and teenagers are one of the demographics most often diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder and Conduct Disorder. Their "disordered behavior" is even rated as more severe than their white peers. ADHD (and even Autism) are known to be mistaken as Oppositional Defiant Disorder and Conduct Disorder in underage black people and other underage people of color. And to even have overlapping comorbid diagnoses. Racial minorities, which does include black teens and adults, are also more likely to be diagnosed and even misdiagnosed with Schizophrenia Spectrum Disorders and Psychosis. Conduct Disorder is considered a precursor to Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD). ASPD is a diagnosis previously known as "sociopathy". To say that these have a significantly huge stigma is an understatement. Up to 20% to 60% of juvenile detainees in different Juvenile Detention Centers have been noted as having Conduct Disorder and Oppositional Defiant Disorder diagnoses. The stigma leads to negative interpretations of behavior, and harsh punishments, without proper treatment and sympathy. The perception of the same clinical symptoms and behavior can be interpreted differently between white and black patients. This may include the patient's flat affect, meltdowns or catatonia, emotional dysregulation or defiance or aggression. .

Schizophrenia and re-occurring psychosis, like many things, are worsened by poor mental health and high stress. This means having more distinguishable, frequent, and debilitating symptoms. Circumstances that worsen stress long-term include poverty, abuse, inter-generational trauma, being in a violent environment, experiencing violence, being homeless, persistent discrimination, and lack of access to resources and help. Because of redlining and discrimination due to societal-level oppression, these stressful circumstances disproportionately affect black people, and other oppressed racial and ethnic groups. This is, unfortunately, an issue in several countries worldwide. Additionally, black people are seen and stereotyped as aggressive, thus when diagnosed with psychiatric conditions, the conclusions tend to lean more toward this presumption. Even in non-medical contexts and social contexts, there are worse and more negatively charged interpretations of the symptoms and behavior of black neurodiverse people.

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In conclusion:

Racism (and other oppressions) are heavily embedded in the very history of and connotations that mental illnesses have in the first place. And it goes beyond racial minorities having higher rates of diagnosis of stigmatized disorders, and mistreatment in white neurodiverse communities. Plus, it is in the very institutions and basis of how psychiatry operates. Exacerbated by society's own biases. And this aspect seems to very well inform why there is such a rift between Autism and Schizophrenia despite the big similarities in symptomatology. In fact, it is instrumental in understanding the histories of Schizophrenia and Autism, and their divergence in connotations. It goes very deep.

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