Jack and Patrick

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Catullus 3- In this poem Catullus sees his lover sad and distraught over something about him that he can not fix. These emotions are seen in the lines "tua nunc opera, meae puellae, flendo turgiduli rubent ocelli" (This is similar to the song "Wedding" by Mac Miller when Mac says that "the smile that she's faking's so tragic, hate looking at it, that magic I try to grasp it, she's had it with the dramatics". Both writers are sad about the fact that their lovers are sad and it is driving them crazy.

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(Explicit content) Catullus 85- This short poem is Catullus' way of explaining the paradox of his emotions which constantly eat at each other within the overshadowing love he has for Lesbia. This is shone as he says "Odi et amo" (I hate and I love). Tyler the Creator exhibits the same conflict of emotions through his booming chorus on the song "IFHY" where he says "I f*****g hate you, but I love you, I'm bad at keeping my emotions bubbled, your good at being perfect, we're good at being troubled".

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Catullus 70- In this poem we see Catullus making a statement on the fidelity of female speech and he warns us not to trust them when they say they love a man in the lines "dicit: sed mulier cupido quod dicit amanti, in vento et rapida scribere opertet aqua" (what a woman says to a desirous lover, this ought to write in the wind and rapid water). This is the same message in Biz Markie's "Just a Friend" and is summed up when Biz says "Everything sounded so dandy and sweet, I had no idea I was in for a treat... I saw a fella kissing my girl in the mouth, I was so in shock my heart went down south. So please listen to what I said, don't ever talk to a girl who says she just has a friend".

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Catullus' 5 expresses his deep love for Lesbia and that they "conturbabimus illa" will lose count of "deinde centum" another hundred, among their many thousands kisses. In comparison, the band The Cardigans conveys similar feelings in the song "Lovefool." The Cardigans urges their lover to, "Love me love me Pretend that you love me." Both artist yearn for love.

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In Catullus 1, Catullus declares his love for Lesbia as well as his envy for her lover. Catullus describes her lover as "equal to that of God," (ille mi par esse deo videtur). Catullus also illustrates his feeling of anxiety and speechlessness whenever he sees Lesbia. Rick Springfield's song Jessie's Girl expresses similar feeling of jealousy and a desire for love. Springfield exclaims that "I wish that I had Jessie's girl" and he experiences the same situation that Catullus goes through. Springfield emphasizes the uncomfortable feeling he gets when he sees Jessie and his girl together. Also, both Catullus 51 and Jessie's Girl are both written in first person and take on the perspective of the author.

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Catullus' 8 is an ode in which he cherishes his fond memories with Lesbia, but recognizes that she is never going to love him back. In line 10 her tells himself that he will not chase after her (nec quae fugit sectare). He then urges himself to cheer up (nec miser vive). In their song When You Were Young, The Killers express similar feelings of nostalgia and the past. The lyrics, "you sit there in your heartache" and "you play forgiveness, watch it now, here he comes." The killers describe a girl who is waiting for a former lover, but at the same time is going to "play forgiveness" when or if he comes back. Catullus is similar to the girl described in When You Were Young because even though he acts as if he has moved on from his former lover, he still thinks about her constantly. Catullus envisions Lesbia living a life of loneliness and being in pain because no one will love her. Catullus' behavior suggests that he will "play forgiveness" is Lesbia ever decides to come back to him.