Hm. That's mildly gay.

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[personuhh]

Different anon but I like how you worded the style of P5 as "fatigue" in your last response- because yes, it absolutely is exhausting to see that kind of IP bleed overtime for what I still personally consider to be my gold standard for UI design. Objectively *beautiful* for its time, but when it's starting to seep into other entries with aesthetics that are already well established, it begets understandable worry. I'm still somewhat excited for Revival myself, but on a visual front I legitimately don't blame anyone else for any well deserved criticism for what the game would look like when there's a non zero chance we'll have an identical visual song and dance to a game released in 2016...

on one hand i get it, because p5 does have some really fundamentally ~groundbreaking~ design; the face buttons mapped to different actions rather than having to scroll through menus is nice and makes combat feel a little bit snappier and more involved, and perhaps most importantly, it appeals to people not traditionally inclined to play turn based RPGs. yakuza/rgg 7 and 8 also use the same approach for these reasons imo (and stylistically it is very similar overall, lol).

(7's combat isn't great but 8's was so good i literally spent like 30 hours grinding just because it felt good and was fun)

carrying this kind of thing forward is perfectly fine in my opinion. being able to blast through a battle, especially if you're backtracking or revisiting an area with lower level enemies, combat shouldn't be something a player avoids due to the tedium.

but i do actually think persona 5 simultaneously caused a detrimental wave of style over function imo the original game also suffers from this and i would say that's even more of a problem than just persona 5-style fatigue, because you see these trends, you experience them elsewhere, and you're just like god damn, i don't need the menus to be fucking revolutionary, i just want to be able to navigate them effectively. and the Stylish Menus and UI signal to you that it's going to be carrying on that philosophy. after a couple hours, the novelty wears off anyway.

[personuhh]

what do you think the chances are of getting a yosuke romance in p4re

low

[personuhh]

oh my god i just wanna say thank you for being the only other person i’ve seen who thinks p3r was blue p5. i was mourning p3’s aesthetic and visual identity and everyone around me was like what are you talking about 😭

yeah, like i said, i haven't played it, so i'm just going off clips and trailers and promo material, but it's always felt like they were trying to bring p3 back in line with what people expect persona to be based on p5's iconic UI. it was a little more acceptable when they released the dancing games together, but that carrying over to its remake was kind of weird (in addition to causing a fatigue of p5's previously unique and defining style). part of this is that p3 has a far more reserved style overall, where p4 really established itself with its spinoffs (which ironically overwrote p3's influence). the one thing i will give golden is it leaned into the almost sort of ~retro~ analog aesthetic, and i'm not entirely sure revival will succeed with that.

[personuhh]

Sorry i cant cite any sources right now, but i remember p3re articles/interviews say it was Shimada Azusa who's been the new art director for the remakes. iirc she's been in the Soejima Art Studio since 2016(?). And my condolences for them keeping the Yosuke ugly angle, may we all weather the storm.

huh, okay. i guess on his wikipedia page it shows that he hasn't been art director since p4dan. i thought he had drawn the p5 sprites, but it's been too long for me to remember for sure what exactly he's credited for (besides character design). either way i really dislike the key art and character renders. i've messed around with the og sprites enough to know that they were far from perfect, and i'm not a purist with that kind of thing, but yosuke looks markedly worse imho (everyone else is Fine)

oh my god wait LMAO i looked at it again 💀

[personuhh]

p4r trailer out! how do you feel about it? do you think they'll make any changes?

[proxythe]

[lastvalyrian]

I think the two likeliest Yosuke outcome for the p4 remake is that they keep him as not a romance option but also edit out all of his internalized homophobia moments (worst outcome) or we get this sanitized version of him with a token gay romance story with all the edges removed

Like I am so convinced that we will get a sanded down version of Yosuke no matter what in the name of being inclusive or whatever

And it's so wild to have a realistically internalized homophobia teenager in a 2008 who wasn't allowed to be gay because of how homophobic the times were

and in 2025 we might get the opposite with a by the book gay romance option for a character who had all his interesting character traits removed because of a perceived notion of inclusivity that is equally homophobic in a more pernicious way

[personuhh]

This line from Yukiko's Arena route has me

T H I N K I N G

[personuhh]

Y'KNOW. LIKE. I AM THINKING.

THINKING VERY HARD.

THINKING HARD ABOUT KANJI,

AND CHIE,

AND EVERYONE ELSE SEEING AND ACKNOWLEDGING ALL OF THIS.

[personuhh]

THIS IS EVIL THEY NOHOMOED THE LINE SO HARD IN THE NEW ULTIMAX PORT

[personuhh]

whatever i'll link the yuri lowenthal cameos here again bc everybody on twitter's been sharing them around again and i still appreciate him more than anything for putting his whole yuriussy into every single cameo request i made

[personuhh]

"omg maybe we'll get a yosuke romance route!!!!!"

lol

[personuhh]

How do you go about doing character analyses, and how confident were you in them starting out? I thought about starting to do my own to not only understand the stories I like better, but to also become a better writer myself. I'm really nervous to share my ideas with others, though, since they usually come off as stupid. For example, I see a few parallels, connections, and meaningful differences between Yosuke and Kanji's characters, but I'm afraid to try analyzing further.

Media analysis is absolutely imperative to develop as a skill, so even if you don't want to share it, it's great to talk to friends or even just write it out without posting. Practicing by stretching those writing muscles will help immensely with both ability and confidence. In your case, I think that you may just need to put yourself out there and not worry too much about how it may be received. Write for yourself.

I'm not sure I've ever thought about confidence as it relates to sharing my thoughts, I just do it, because I truly believe in what I believe and I want to share it with people and start a conversation that might fuel further exploration. And while there have definitely been times I've felt like an idiot for getting stuff wrong, (mostly misremembering phrasing or something that does alter the overall meaning where it no longer fits), you just kind of have to take the L and recalibrate. It doesn't mean all of your ideas are stupid, or that you yourself are, it's just that you put a few pieces together wrong or jumped to a conclusion before everything was considered. One of the most important things you can do when analyzing media is being open to different interpretations (not just from others, but also from yourself) until you sus out the one you can put your full weight behind. You might run through a couple different iterations before you land on one that ties everything together, and you might look back and scoff at how silly those previous thoughts were, or you might say, "hey, I was right!"

Don't underestimate the importance of the community aspect of fandom either. If you only see a few parallels, point them out (to a friend in private, or in your own post) somebody might be able to add on and give you a different perspective you didn't consider. It doesn't need to be complete when you're still in the process of exploring. Just try not to overreach, I'd actually say that while you should believe in what you're saying first and foremost, it's a good thing to not be completely confident, because it generally prevents you from making unfounded and ignorant claims; be receptive if you are under criticism, but you also don't have to accept anything and everything that a critic says.

[personuhh]

oh its so fucking joever

[jazbell]

ive said it before and ill say it again: not nearly enough fanworks talk about THIS part of the souyo dynamic, the weird savior complex and trust yu has w adachi directly breaching the trust that yosuke has put on him. not only here, but in the game too, when yu chooses to meet with adachi in the tv world by himself without telling the others, yosuke waits for him outside anyways bc he knew something was up. yosuke feels betrayed by the fact that yu trusts adachi not to kill him right then and there more than he trusts the team to help him, but he still welcomes him back with a smile. because yu is the leader and yosuke will trust in him no matter what, even if it means watching him walk into the mouth of the man who killed the girl he liked, knowing full well it could snap shut at any moment and break his heart all over again.

basically too many souyo fics about internalized homophobia and not enough about all the other weird shit they have going on.

[meli-mouse]

she was stronger than any soldier for this

[catnatch]

i've cracked the code of why yosuke is always posed Like That

[riceballoon]

time skip

a persona 4 velvet attendant!protag comic from 2 years ago! id enjoy seeing yosuke being the next wildcard and growing into the leader role he so admired

forgive the awkward dialogue i am not a good writer

[personuhh]

Ngl, I thought at first you were an actual good persona blog but I just can't follow you anymore after learning you don't like gandam style.

Normal persona fans really don't exist.

oppa gandam style