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[animentality]

[kimikaami]

I totally sympathize with being angry about an adaptation of something you care a lot about but the way people on here criticize the odyssey movie for not being historically accurate is so fucking obnoxious lmfao. Sometimes the point is not accuracy. Sometimes an artist has ideas they want to explore so they choose a pre-established story as a conduit to express those ideas through. Sometimes the anachronisms are the point, and trying to understand why certain choices were made is 10x more interesting than going “thing wrong so thing bad >:[“

Like you can absolutely disagree with what themes do come through, but holy fuck you guys. You are not the perfect bastions of media literacy you think you are just because you can cinema sins point out every little flaw.

[wizzard890]

do you ever look at our world and feel like somehow, somewhere, because of greed or rapacious desire or cruelty or carelessness, a crucial piece of humanity has been shattered and that we're now living in a slow terrible grinding inevitable apocalypse as a result?

well so does christopher nolan.

go see the odyssey, it's really fucking good.

[hollandverse]

[noonsrocky]

Love whatever genre this is

[sapphic-sircle]

people are irritating cause wdym you're mad at an ADAPTATION of The Odyssey.

[buggyyyyyyyyl]

Everytime Menelaus has short hair, is going bald, or is bald, an angel loses it wings

give my man his long luscious hair

[literary-sparks]

I’m about to get on my high horse (haha Trojan horse) and complain about how everyone here is reacting to The Odyssey. I don’t think the movie was perfect but I do think it was a great version.

I am of the firm belief that if an adaptation wants to explore different textual themes more than others then it should be allowed to do it as long as it’s done well. That’s why it’s Nolan’s The Odyssey and not Homer’s. The Odyssey is one of, if not the, most famous works in human history. Everyone knows the story and its main themes, so exploring those in different ways, to me, is more interesting than just rehashing the exact text word for word.

So many of the things people are complaining about are either 1) things I also missed but saw thematically explored in different ways 2) things that really don’t have as substantial of a significance in the text the way people are acting (the bag of wind,,,brother,,,it’s a further demonstration of their unwillingness to listen to the gods and their consistent self destruction in the process. Something that is heavily explored in the movie in ways that work better cinematically. And also is shown in the text in different ways) or 3) things that already are different depending on the version of the story you’re reading.

And that’s really the crux of this. Because this is a story that was told orally for years before and after it was written down. Homer did it first but there are still different written versions of the story that change things exactly like Nolan did. Some versions Odysseus doesn’t want to go to war and only goes because they threaten to kill his son. Some versions he goes very willingly and is on board from the start. Some versions he stays with Circe in a romantic relationship for a while before leaving. Some versions he leaves. Some versions Clytemnestra is lied to and that’s why she kills Agamemnon. Some versions she does it willingly.

These different versions have always existed, many times in tandem or after Homer’s version was written down. Are these versions wrong or lesser because they aren’t the “real, true” story? No. Just like all of Greek mythology, there are many different versions of the same stories that vary based on region, storytellers, and thematic motivations. No version is better than another and the people complaining that Nolan’s is wrong/bad because it doesn’t have every single thing from Homer’s version are ignoring the fact that, technically, Nolan adapting it in this way is more true to oral tradition than making a beat for beat copy.

It feels so ridiculous to me that people are complaining about changes to a story that has changed within its own translation. Emily Wilson’s translation (the version Nolan’s is mostly based on) uses modern language because to her, using older 18th-19th century language to translate the text is unnecessary and doesn’t make it any more true to the original story. We use it because many translations were done at that time AND because it has an older, more significant feeling to us to read that language. But the text is so old that it’s no more accurate to the story than using 1920s language. It also keeps a story meant for everyone behind a barrier. So she uses modern language and makes the story accessible while still staying extremely faithful and accurate to each line.

Does that make her translation lesser? Are yall going to start coming for that one episode of Arthur that adapted the odyssey now? That one episode of wishbone? Is that not pure and good enough for you because it doesn’t identically match Homer’s text? You guys have got to learn to engage with different themes in adaptations of media and examine the messages of those instead of remaining media purists.

[residentsuperhero]

saw The Odyssey tonight and !!!!!! I gotta say it rips! I obviously have some thoughts, but I thought it was so so well crafted - I was moved to tears multiple times

I think Nolan packs a lot of thought into this one that is textual and subtextual (some similar themes from Oppenheimer actually) that I found really compelling and to have striking modern parallels

👀 almost like we continue to tell ancient stories over and over again as a way of examining our own humanity 👀 and maybe, just maybe, looking for a guidebook to getting it right next time

[noonsrocky]

2021x2026

Still the same doe eyed look as 5 years ago

Oh tomdaya,you never change

[tomdayarchive]

quite an emotional full circle moment 🥹

[tzatairovic]

Also fuck the “zendaya only has a cameo” crowd when she is literally the emotional and thematic climax of the movie

[cam-pteryx]

muppets The Odyssey should have Miss Piggy as Odysseus

[tami-taylors-hair]

Saw The Odyssey and my two biggest takeaways are:

1. Anne Hathaway really is That Bitch; and

2. Man, Christopher Nolan sure does feel a deep soul crushing guilt about having children and leaving them this world behind.

[isntmoney]

Helen of Troy ragebaiting Menelaus at the dinner,

and Clytemnestra waiting years to slaughter her deadbeat husband with a face identical to the woman Agamemnon used to justify his war,

and Penelope’s plan being to lock all the suitors inside and set fire to the building,

and Circe turning all the soldiers to pigs and then offering one to Odysseus as a meal,

and Athena’s constant cameos of judgement

[magicaldogtoto]

People accusing Christopher Nolan of making The Odyssey “woke” for including an actor like Elliot Page is very telling to me, because at no point in the film is Page’s character stated to be trans in-universe. We see flashbacks of his character as a child and by all accounts, Sinon is meant to have been a cis boy in the narrative of the film.

Which makes it clear that detractors aren’t upset at the idea of Nolan including a trans character in the film—he didn’t—but that they’re upset at the idea of a trans person existing in real life.

[redemptrix]