[rabidbatboy]

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HELLO AND WELCOME :-)

if you’ve stumbled upon my blog, hello! rabidbatboy is run by the host of the keyhole collective — i’m a 21yo white british transsexual, concept art student and longtime mogai lover! this blog is contributed to by various keys, and we are the coiner of @monachoric, and also creator of the queer presentation archive. I love to receive asks and comments, and i am available for contact as rabidbatboy on discord 🦇

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[luvmogai]

also on the topic of thanking people, id like to thank rabidbatboy for inspiring us and for making sutff we liked since we joined the community!!

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[rabidbatboy]

THIS IS SO KIND IM SO GLAD!! 🫶

[rabidbatboy]

I really want to stress this because having terms deeply personal to me twisted in a way that utterly contradicts them really bothers me quite a fucking lot.

I have always held the opinion that identity based labels should not have limitations to who can use them. This includes and is not limited to people I dislike and disagree with. It has long been my opinion in mogai based spaces and extends out of them. Identity is not based on morality.

When I posted cirnatura I wanted it to be explicit that anybody could use the word, for the reasons stated above. I did not post cirnatura to be a pro endo version of miscecanis or to divide the words into two opposing spaces. It quite literally is inherently stanceless. To my knowledge there’s like approximately five people who use cirnatura, maybe more in private I don’t know. Whatever opinions these people hold and what they do with their lives is not my business.

I don’t like people bringing discourse to my doorstep and when you post about my word, my little word that just exists to describe one thing and nothing else and you attach your shit to it that I don’t want, I do see it. Because it’s a tiny ass term and I look up stuff about it to make me happy. This does not make me happy.

I cannot possibly stress enough that cirnatura is just the word that my system uses innerworld and I made a choice to post it publicly for those who for whatever reason might like it. Please don’t make me regret sharing this part of us.

[emonsicine]

i want to preface that i haven't seen this word be used in mogai spaces as of yet, but i feel it's something worth bringing attention to given how it's becoming a bit more popular and widespread online as a whole. i honestly don't think a lot of people using it online, especially in lighthearted ways, don't understand the terms history which is in part why i'm making this post. people should be aware of the history and meaning behind the word.

the word "foid" is misogynistic, point blank. for those unaware, the word 'foid' which can also be written as 'femoid' comes from incel communities, such as 4chan, and is a combination of the words female and android used to dehumanize and describe women. the word seems to actively be becoming more normalized and by proxy the dehumanization of woman is becoming (more) normalized. i've mainly seen it be used on tiktok and instagram, though i'm sure it's being used on other social media sites but i don't use them in order to know; from what i've seen it is used in a lighthearted manner mostly but i have seen posts use it in the original derogatory way.

from what i've been able to find when trying to do more research into the term, it seems to have started in forum culture, much like incel, in the late 200s/early 2010s. it was and still is used to insult women, mock experiences, and furthering misogynistic beliefs. unfortunately i can't find posts with the exact origin of the word given the nature of forum sites, especially ones like 4chan, not being archived properly and posts being deleted after a while. however i was able to find posts and articles describing the terms origins, meanings, and examples of it being used in a derogatory manner which i will include below.

please be warned that the posts will include misogyny in general along with slurs, racism, antisemitism, ableism, and nsfw words and themes. view at your own discretion.

above are two forum posts i found using the word and discussing it in its original derogatory manner. i'm sure there are other posts like it or posts using the word in general on the site but i don't want to spend more time on that site than i already have to get these.

both screenshots above were taken from one of the sources/links i've provided below, specifically the yahoo article, which includes many more screenshots that i won't be including here.

some links below going over the history and meaning of the word:

greens dictionary of slang , yahoo article discussing the history , urban dictionary definition , article from stationary pal , wikitionary (looking specifically at the english section) , wikitionary of femoid , article from the central trend .

tags for reach, no pressure to reblog: @mantra-repeated @mogaiqueued @scaramogai @radiomogai

[rabidbatboy]

🧼 — THE FIRST RULE OF MOGAI CLUB IS:

LIQUIDSNAKESHARIC: a sharic term for when you share a gender with liquid snake from metal gear solid

MOGAI MISCHIEF DAY 3: a term based on something your person loves a lot e.g a hobby, media, character etc

TAGGING: @radiomogai @io-archival

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MOGAI CLUB — 🫧

[rabidbatboy]

🧼 — THE FIRST RULE OF MOGAI CLUB IS:

EVMYERSAL: a gender inspired by the character evan myers from everymanHYBRID— characterised by working out in your basement or your garage, having a knife collection, t-shirts with bold graphics on them, cutting the sleeves off t-shirts, climbing trees, filming you and your friends messing around on a camcorder, rock music CDs in a beat up CD player, deathproof and other tarantino movies, scuffing your knee, wrestling with your friends in the grass, getting fast food at 3am, staying up all night, falling in love in that messy naive teenage way, biting your nails all the way down, quiet anger simmering under your skin, feeling betrayed, being a part of something bigger than yourself, being doomed to repeat it all again, that one hazy summer before everything went wrong

MOGAI MISCHIEF DAY 2: a term related to or inspired by a term your person has coined

Guess who really missed his bf and wanted him to come over even though his bf was a bit sick and got completely wiped out bc he’s immunocompromised and stupid. Thus making him behind on his own event. Certainly not I

TAGGING: @radiomogai @io-archival @horrormogai @slendermogai

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MOGAI CLUB — 🫧

[mushroom-filled-unknownentity]

Hey unfortunately the coiner of cirnatura is a good friend of the coiner of misceverse. You don’t have to answer this ask publicly as it’ll likely start drama but I just wanted you to know if you are not in support of misceverse then cirnatura should probably be avoided for the very same reasons with similar questionable moral behaviors and standings as the coiner of misceverse.

I don't know anything about the coiner of misceverse. And it's not like I don't support the term or anything, or have issues with the coiner. I just personally don't use or like the term because it's so easily conflated with fiction.

Any *drama or controversy surrounding the term or its coiner is something completely foreign to me and, quite frankly, I don't think it's something I should engage with. At least not at the moment due to my current mental space. I simply talked about cirnatura as it was a term brought to my attention and thought it could be useful to share. If you personally have issues with either terms or their coiners, that's fine. But, I don't wish to make much of a deal out of this.

(*The only thing I know about is a, now resolved(?), conflict about the coiner of misceanimalis' thoughts on the term and how their term (the misce prefix) is used. But that's about it.)

Apologies for ranting, I just want to be entirely clear on this ^^'

[rabidbatboy]

This is not at all targeted at SpawnOfEris and I completely understand that you have no control over the ask sent and I’m really really sorry that people have tried to pull you into whatever this is.

I was just having a scroll of posts using cirnatura and I’m deeply deeply disappointed and genuinely upset to come across this. Cirnatura is simply a term my system uses. That is it. You can use it or not use it, it’s up to anyone to choose and I won’t force anyone. Despite it being very personal to me I’m sharing it with the world in the hopes of connecting with others.

It is quite frankly shocking and ridiculous that people are going into other people’s inboxes to dissuade them from a word I came up with based on my friends. Yes I am friends with Lapin. Lapin also uses cirnatura. This has no bearing on it whatsoever. I have explicitly stated repeatedly that cirnatura has no ties to any kind of stance or ideology and literally anyone can use it.

I have also always encouraged people to come to me with any questions or concerns so I can resolve them so if anyone has any issues with my “questionable moral behaviours and standings” or those of my friends you can always talk to me about it either here or on discord (same @) instead of pulling stunts like this. Also this will be the last I speak on this.

Again I’d like to apologise to OP for being dragged into this at all, and that I have to clear this up, again this will be the one and only post I make on the matter. Thank you for taking interest in cirnatura and mentioning it in your post

[rabidbatboy]

🧼 — THE FIRST RULE OF MOGAI CLUB IS:

CAMVIEWGENDER: a xenogender for when one’s gender is viewed through the lens of a camera, particularly the screen of a camcorder

MOGAI MISCHIEF DAY 1: a term based on your person’s blog/account. overall vibe, theme, aesthetics etc

TAGGING: @radiomogai @io-archival

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MOGAI CLUB — 🫧

[rabidbatboy]

Who is excited for mogai mischief tomorrow yayyyy

[rabidbatboy]

hi hi! about egocieve: can i use an egocieve as a presentation term, in the sense of "wanting to be seen as the [x] person" as opposed to a general identity term?

I wouldn’t personally label it a presentation term, no, I mean I’m generally okay with freedom to do most things with my terms but gesturessss I couldn’t see it being categorised with queer presentations as it wasn’t exactly intended that way

[rabidbatboy]

Mogai Mischief Event

Foremost, I would like to thank you all very warmly for 2k followers. It’s been a wild ride! Expect a more in depth and heartfelt post about that in the coming days. For now I’d like to introduce to you an event to celebrate this milestone: the mogai mischief event!

Participants will secretly pick another member of the mogai community and from Monday 29th of June to Friday the 4th of July, coin based on five prompts about their chosen person. At the end of the event, the secret person will be revealed!

If you’ve ever participated in or seen the blorbosquared event, it’s the exact same principle but with other people in the community rather than characters.

RULES & INFO

- Since my blog is focussed on mogai coining, the event will centre around coining based on the prompts, this does not have to include a flag however

- You can really choose anyone for the prompts (a friend, mutual, stranger, coiner, archivist etc) but as this is mogai community focussed it will be easiest to create for someone in the community who makes or uses mogai terms. There will be alternate prompts sometimes in case certain prompts are harder to fulfil but also feel free to take lots of creative liberty

- Please keep your person a secret until the final day! That’s part of the fun :-)

- Feel free to plan out and draft terms beforehand or post late/after the event, but please don’t post your event coins until their respective day

- Tag your posts with #mogaimischief !

THE PROMPTS

DAY 1: a term based on your person’s blog/account. overall vibe, theme, aesthetics etc

OR another account or site of your person e.g discord, rentry, neocities etc

DAY 2: a term related to or inspired by a term your person has coined

OR a term from their label collection/that they identify with

DAY 3: a term based on something your person loves a lot e.g a hobby, media, character etc

DAY 4: a term based on an animal or creature you associate with your person

OR based on a concept/theme or music you associate with your person

DAY 5: tag your person today! Free day- any term you’d like/that you think your person would like/that reminds you of them

That’s all! If you have any questions my inbox is open.

@radiomogai @mogaievents @mogai945 @respirgender @jiiamp @your-neighbour-coining @frikeymogai @mogai-suiteheart

[rabidbatboy]

Heya. I noticed you mentioning Pon Varr in reference to Cirnatura. Are there any other non human species or mating habits from fiction you’d consider falling similarly to Cirnatura?

Good question! Truthfully I can’t think of any like Vulcans off the top of my head, I reference pon farr both because I’m a Vulcan (hello) and amok time played at least some part in the origins of omegaverse itself so it was critical to me that non animal fictional species/races like Vulcans still fell under cirnatura because. Hiii we sort of kicked off the whole mating cycle thing

Honestly I would say that anyone who identifies with a fictional species and experiences a similar concept fits within it, and I can definitely say that the concept is very common in werewolf and vampire media, so while ‘werewolf mating cycles’ is a lot more nonspecific than pon farr with Vulcans I would say this sort of falls within the realm.

Another thing that comes to mind which is somewhat less biological is both canon and fanon interpretations of courting habits in certain species like Tolkien dwarves e.g gifting gold and gems which i could see being a cirnatura experience for someone if associated with their omegaverse identity.

If anyone knows of any other fictional species that are similar to Vulcans in that they have a specific canon mating and courting habits lmk!

[rabidbatboy]

🧼 — THE FIRST RULE OF MOGAI CLUB IS:

GIRLFIEDAUGHTER: or girlfriendaughter, a gender connected to being a daughter of girlfriends, a daughter that is a girlfriend or being a daughter in a way that’s related to girlfriends

TAGGING: @radiomogai @io-archival

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MOGAI CLUB — 🫧

[rabidbatboy]

I will prrooooobably not respond to any more stuff regarding my paraphile post bc my system is telling me that dwelling on things that Upset Me is bad for me or something so expect to be back to our regularly scheduled coining soon

[rabidbatboy]

I would like to invite you to compare the way you treat and think about paraphilias to the way you treat and think about other disorders with me. particularly if you are a member of communities that aren’t as likely to spread stigma surrounding disorders like NPD and ASPD etc like in typical society.

anti paras tend to hold the beliefs of ‘anti para unless anti contact’ in a guilty until proven innocent sense, the conflation of paraphile with predator is so deeply ingrained from decades of social stigma that it provides people with a safety net to acceptably say that we should kill and harm paraphiles.

as someone who has personality disorders, these disorders sometimes compel me or make me desire to harm people. acting upon my desires to hurt people around me would be physically and emotionally traumatic for strangers and even people I care about. why can you rationalise empathy for people like me, when this pertains to BPD, NPD, ASPD, schizophrenia, etc? if someone was to say ‘anti NPD, except anti abuse ones’ why is that unacceptable, but ‘anti para, except anti contact ones’ is acceptable?

do you understand that sexual taboo is affecting the way you treat and think about human beings? do you understand that sex being integrated into the conversation is what’s affecting your mental shift from ‘person with a condition’ to ‘predator’ as soon as the conversation moves to paraphiles? ‘narc abuse’ is a condemned term in these communities for conflating a condition with abuser. but conflate ‘paraphile’ with ‘predator’ and you very wilfully submit to a decades long psyop that has also been historically used to hurt the gay and trans community.

it’s frustrating that I try and keep this blog mogai focussed, but more and more violence and bullying is being incited towards various groups that already suffer from social stigma. you aren’t interested in protecting children if you can’t get over your own internal biases— who is going to protect the children who are paraphiles? who is going to protect the victims who are paraphiles?

consider your own hypocrisy, dont disregard reason and empathy to soothe your personal discomforts

[disseveredfaggot]

"Anti NPD except the anti abuse ones" ≠ "anti para except the anti contact ones"

Paraphiles don't always have paraphilic disorders. Paraphilic disorders get diagnosed after a psychiatrist identifies the paraphilia AND the distress caused from it. If there is none, then they don't qualify for the disorder. (Source: Medscape)

On Tumblr, para discourse usually refers to three paraphilias: pedo, necro, and zoophilia. Other paraphilias, such as Transvestic fetishism (arousal from crossdressing), arent usually argued about because acting on those paraphilias wouldn't hurt anyone except maybe the paraphile themselves.

Pro Para means supporting paraphiles, Anti para is the opposite.

That being said, on Tumblr when someone says they're "anti-para minus anti contact" that's a good thing because not everyone who identifies with being a paraphile is acting on good faith. Communities based on NPD don't have a reputation for normalizing abuse, communities based on Paraphilias do (see: radqueer, xenosatanist)

Being "anti NPD except the ones who are anti abuse" doesn't make sense because there's nothing inherently abusive about NPD.

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In other words, sounds like a false equivalence and being wary with people who openly call themselves paraphiles is a good thing and important to making sure you don't let in creeps. Honestly, same thing goes for anyone who openly associates themselves with something negative (I already steer clear of people who openly say they're jackasses)

That being said, I'm willing to bet a good amount of people in the MOGAI community are minors who are pretty isolated (on account if being queer), so discouraging people from being "anti para minus anti contact" isnt something I'd recommended— good intentions aside.

Making sure that pro-contact paraphiles are not welcome is more important than temporary discomfort

[rabidbatboy]

“That being said, on Tumblr when someone says they're "anti-para minus anti contact" that's a good thing because not everyone who identifies with being a paraphile is acting on good faith.”

I’m pretty sure it’s called prejudice when you base your opinion on a whole varied group of people on the actions of some people within that group. I also don’t consider it a good thing to refer to yourself as ‘anti [group of people]’ in general if that group is not inherently harmful even if you follow that up with a caveat.

“Communities based on NPD don't have a reputation for normalizing abuse, communities based on Paraphilias do (see: radqueer, xenosatanist)”

Radqueer is not a community “based on paraphilias” radqueer is a community (that I believe is flawed and promotes an unsafe environment for minors) that is very supportive of paraphiles and contains a lot of them, because, shockingly, paraphiles who have been constantly demonised online tend to turn to a community that supports them. Don’t you think, granted that many victims and even minors are paraphiles, we should try and prioritise supporting them so that they DON’T have to turn to these communities you speak of that can lead these people to harmful mindsets rather than isolating them by assuming they’ll cause harm by default?

“Being "anti NPD except the ones who are anti abuse" doesn't make sense because there's nothing inherently abusive about NPD.”

And there’s also nothing inherently abusive about being a paraphile or having a paraphilic disorder? These people are not destined to harm people. In fact, many many people who are sexually abusive and offending predators are not in fact paraphiles at all.

“That being said, I'm willing to bet a good amount of people in the MOGAI community are minors who are pretty isolated (on account if being queer), so discouraging people from being "anti para minus anti contact" isnt something I'd recommended— good intentions aside.”

So what about children and vulnerable groups who are paraphiles, have paraphilic attraction? When we talk about protecting children, do we factor in these people who need to be protected from the prejudice of others? Do you think they are safe if they are assumed to be inherently dangerous due to something utterly out of their control? And like I mentioned about, don’t you think that supporting the idea of being ‘anti’ them will push them into harmful communities that do support them no matter what?

The safety of children and victims is fundamentally more important than someone’s hatred of predators. You can be absolutely supportive of paraphiles and still be on top of internet safety and condemning predatory behaviour. These things are not mutually exclusive. I don’t think the dehumanisation of one group of people is necessary for the protection of another. This mindset tends to ignore the fact that things like the death penalty for predators is actually more dangerous for children, it ignores the fact that a lot of sexual abuse stems from a desire to control and not attraction. All these misconceptions limit our ability to protect children and victims. Making sure we don’t dehumanise paraphiles does not.

[rabidbatboy]

I would like to invite you to compare the way you treat and think about paraphilias to the way you treat and think about other disorders with me. particularly if you are a member of communities that aren’t as likely to spread stigma surrounding disorders like NPD and ASPD etc like in typical society.

anti paras tend to hold the beliefs of ‘anti para unless anti contact’ in a guilty until proven innocent sense, the conflation of paraphile with predator is so deeply ingrained from decades of social stigma that it provides people with a safety net to acceptably say that we should kill and harm paraphiles.

as someone who has personality disorders, these disorders sometimes compel me or make me desire to harm people. acting upon my desires to hurt people around me would be physically and emotionally traumatic for strangers and even people I care about. why can you rationalise empathy for people like me, when this pertains to BPD, NPD, ASPD, schizophrenia, etc? if someone was to say ‘anti NPD, except anti abuse ones’ why is that unacceptable, but ‘anti para, except anti contact ones’ is acceptable?

do you understand that sexual taboo is affecting the way you treat and think about human beings? do you understand that sex being integrated into the conversation is what’s affecting your mental shift from ‘person with a condition’ to ‘predator’ as soon as the conversation moves to paraphiles? ‘narc abuse’ is a condemned term in these communities for conflating a condition with abuser. but conflate ‘paraphile’ with ‘predator’ and you very wilfully submit to a decades long psyop that has also been historically used to hurt the gay and trans community.

it’s frustrating that I try and keep this blog mogai focussed, but more and more violence and bullying is being incited towards various groups that already suffer from social stigma. you aren’t interested in protecting children if you can’t get over your own internal biases— who is going to protect the children who are paraphiles? who is going to protect the victims who are paraphiles?

consider your own hypocrisy, dont disregard reason and compassion to soothe your personal discomforts

[rabidbatboy]

🧼 — THE FIRST RULE OF MOGAI CLUB IS:

VESOMNITY: a genderless/agender spectrum term for when all the labels and/or all the gender related labels one uses are in the context of vesidentity. this could be used if one doesn’t necessarily want to use the ves prefix to refer to themself with gender labels like ‘girl’ or ‘xenogender’ etc but wants them all to be perceived/perceives them all as vesidentities. or if one only uses the ves prefix for a few labels but perceives them all as vesidentities, etc. this is a subterm of omniagen

vesidentity + omni (all/every)

TAGGING: @radiomogai @io-archival

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT MOGAI CLUB — 🫧