attention white people: stop kinning/iding outside your race

[racistkin-blog]

would it be ok for a oppressed group to id as a oppresser if the the oppresser was POC?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean

[racistkin-blog]

the post about synpaths that you reblogged from divinegender is incorrect. synpath was not coined by xurapika/pedo apologist. it was coined by stirdrawsandreblaws, as you will be able to see from their /tagged/synpath talk their post/111280941286/ also discusses the rumor of their being a pedo. they are actually a csa survivor and this rumor has hurt them very much. as a poc, i think your blog is absolutely ridiculous, but i would like to ask you to please stop spreading this rumor.

The post in question is clearly edited to say xurapika “claimed to have coined to the term”. Nowhere else on our blog is this mentioned. It is unclear why you think we have spread any sort of rumor about this.

Regardless of the origins (and the origin you’ve sourced is also a white blogger), the point made still stands.

[racistkin-blog]

(#pm if this isnt sent on anon pls!) i just want to say that i have a lot of mutuals who id outside of their race and speak over those who are trying to stop them with some excuse. im terrified to talk to them about it because im really afraid of what they might say, so thanks for educating others about why this is bad

We started this blog because we and a lot of our friends who are kin and nonwhite had the same problem, and a lot of them had tried talking to their white friend/mutuals, only to be blocked/cut off. We hoped having a general resource blog would help others.

Thank you for your message!

[racistkin-blog]

A lot of people cling to the idea the 'iding outside your race was made by people faking their race' as an excuse to id outside their race but it was actually started by thisisnotjapan

If you have a source for this/a post I can reblog, I’d appreciate it.

[racistkin-blog]

But what if you're race fluid and you kin/id with someone who is poc ???

Is this Rachel Dolezal?

[racistkin-blog]

there are children who don't eat at night and You Do This.

What are you doing to feed those children at night except using them as a rhetorical device to try and win arguments on the internet, just wondering.

[racistkin-blog]

Why can’t I kin/id outside my race if I am white?

Because race is an integral part of a person’s identity, especially if they are nonwhite. It influences each and every aspect of their life.

By saying you’re kin with/ID as a character who is a person of color when you are white yourself, you are implying that you can separate characters from their race, that all our lived experiences and struggles that come with being a particular race can be dismissed as immaterial without changing who we are. This is racist. You are erasing our experiences with race and appropriating our identity without ever having to experience all the pain that comes with it.

The “it’s racist to kin outside your race” thing was started by white people pretending to be Japanese.

Believe it or not, we are capable of finding things racist, independent of white influence. Further, this argument is utterly nonsensical - how is white people fucking up while pretending to be Japanese somehow license for more white people to continue to do so?

My friend is a person of color and they told me it’s okay to kin outside my race.

First of all, you need to stop using your nonwhite friends to defend yourself against accusations of racism. You are essentially using a restyled version of the “I have nonwhite friends, I can’t be racist” argument.

Secondly, you have no way of knowing whether your friend actually thinks it’s okay or whether they are merely afraid of calling you out because they worry that you will either not listen to them, accuse them of overreacting or cut them off.

Finally, just because your token friend of color has sanctioned your racism doesn’t make it any less racist.

I’m a person of color and I don’t think it’s bad for white people to kin outside their race.

People of color are not a monolith. You’re entitled to your opinion. That doesn’t change the fact that other nonwhite people are being harmed by this sort of racist behavior.

What if I call them synpaths instead of kins?

No. Doing so is making no change in your racist behavior; it is merely using a change in terms to attempt to placate those who have called you out.

What if I’ve put up a disclaimer on my kin/id page saying that I don’t claim the race of the character I kin with/id as?

That is simply insulting. You are basically saying “you don’t see color”, implying that the race of the character is immaterial and easily separable from the character. It is not.

What about reincarnation kin?

They still claim to be the nonwhite character. This is inexcusable regardless of how you try to explain it away. You cannot claim a character’s experiences as “your past lives” when their past lives have experience with racism you cannot possibly understand. I am not hurting anyone by being kin/id outside my race, it’s a simple coping mechanism!

You coping mechanisms are not beyond reproach just because you’re mentally ill, especially when they function at the expense of marginalized people.

You are in fact hurting people of color -especially those of us who are mentally ill and use kin to cope. This is compounded by the fact that we are doubly marginalized by racism and ableism and are thus more likely to go undiagnosed/misdiagnosed/have poor access to mental health care. We already have extremely limited representation in media, and it is entitled of you to lay claim to what few characters we have to, when there are countless white characters you have to chose from.

In addition, those of you going by nonwhite names - like white anime kins - add to the racism by claiming names that nonwhite (in this case Asian) people are discriminated for - in education and employment. It is beyond entitled for you as a white person to claim names from cultures when they’ve been stripped from us by white society.

I am delusional/psychotic and I cannot help my kins, asking me to do so is ableist.

Before you call us ableist, consider that white people are not the only ones who deal with mental illness. Then imagine what it is like to live with intersecting marginalization of racism and ableism, especially when there are people like you who blatantly abuse their white privilege.

If your delusions actively harm others, you cannot continue to excuse them. If you are capable of recognizing your behavior as delusional, you have the ability to make efforts towards changing your behavior. We say this as people who are delusional ourselves. It is not easy, but fighting racism was never going to be easy to begin with.

What can I do to change?

Stop going by ethnic kin names. Take the characters off your kin page. Try to distance yourself from the character. Focus on other kins - as a white person, you’re guaranteed to have - or find - plenty of others.

As for the future, you cannot help which characters you get kin feelings for, but you can help what you do with them. You can also educate yourself to rid yourself of the subconscious idea that race is a separable trait from our experiences, so you eventually see nonwhite characters as off limits.

I don’t care about this/I’m going to continue to kin outside my race.

Then please do not pretend to care about racism. It’s extremely exhausting and disheartening for us to broach this subject with white people who claim to be allies, only to have them continue with their behavior and shut us out because they care about maintaining their image as Good Whites than they do about actually changing their racist behavior. You cannot claim to be an ally when you are only anti-racist as long as it’s convenient/doesn’t require you to change your behavior.

[racistkin-blog]

It’s okay - even encouraged  - for white people to reblog this.

[meshugenist]

also are we still going to act like identities are some innate personal thing free from criticism with no element of choice in them at all

reasonably sure that most of y’all would recognize that claiming indigenous genders as identities is fucked up, racist, and wrong, so why do u think that kin is any different?

there’s nothing wrong with being influenced by and even identifying with a character of a marginalized race you aren’t a part of - hell, making characters relatable is practically the purpose of fiction! - but identifying as a character of a marginalized race you aren’t a part of? that sure as fuck crosses the line

[divinegender-blog]

okay

let me make this clear, if you are white and you are fictionkin with a nonwhite character you are racist. that is white entitlement. there is no getting around that especially by using the term synpaths, which most white former fictionkins use to placate poc who have been talking about this issue while not changing their behavior whatsoever (rather, most people agree that the term synpaths should be used for poc who identify with nonwhite characters who aren’t the same ethnicity as them, so to say a japanese person identifying with a indian character, etc, as long as they do not coopt experiences specific to the character)

edit: i’ve been notified that 1) “synpath” was coined by a white pedo apologist and 2) even though you’re not white you still don’t have claims to characters outside your race

edit 2: synpath was claimed to be coined by xurapika who is kin with several black characters and is the pedophile apologist as stated above. 

tagging nonwhite characters as /me on your blog, putting them in your /me tag, is white entitlement and it is racist. i’ve heard ‘i cant help being kin with this character’ a lot and that only says ‘i can’t help being racist’. all you white people will reblog posts for days about how ‘poc should be protected at all costs no matter what’ but the minute you’re fucking confronted and called out for racist behavior there’s radio silence and that’s bullshit, you can’t make us think you’re a safe space and then when an issue gets brought up you don’t reblog shit about it and instead you try to justify your actions.

“it’s a coping mechanism” is also not an excuse. if you are a white trauma victim or survivor and you use that as an excuse to be fictionkin with a nonwhite character, that is a huge slap in the face to poc trauma victims or survivors by justifying you taking away representation from us by saying ‘it’s a coping mechanism’. a coping mechanism is not an excuse to appropriate and take representation away from poc (especially in the case of zuko who has suffered abuse). annabel formerly zuzu thetoplel, tried to justify identifying with zuko this way and i want to point out that i am a trauma victim and had all the right to call them out, so literally all the messages from anons stating that i am not a trauma survivor or victim can fuck off and stop asking me about it.

stuff like ‘do not follow if you identify with (x character)’ is normal, and totally valid for someone who’s fictionkin is a huge part of their identity process but if you’re white and you say something like ‘do not follow if you identify with zuko from atla or (x nonwhite character)’ or you use reaction pics of that character in your posts, similar to how most fictionkins run their blogs— that is racist and that is wrong and that is taking away from poc and i’m tired of being dismissed about this especially by the people whom i thought ‘cared’ who reblogged all that shit about ‘listen to poc no matter what’ and ‘if you’re white sit your ass down’ all that bullshit and it’s just disappointing to know none of you white fictionkins on my dash will reblog this cause it states that you and your friends are racist

[racistkin-blog]

(-cont) because unfortunately, a lot of cultures, such as those based on Islam, Indigenous, and African cultures are rarely either understood or cherished, and thus become either mocked of demonized by everyone, not just whites; I want my culture to be cherished and admired for the glory it does have, and for my people to be proud of it, not for us to be feared, ignored, or be taken as a joke. Kin or Isolation not are not an answer, but the interest and education of young people are.

I do not understand why you would send this or what message you’re trying to get across? Nothing this blog has stated is aggressive at all, and the F.A.Q already states that it is in part meant to be educational. It’s entirely possible for white people to appreciate and respect diverse cultures without bastardizing and claiming it for themselves. For as long as racism exists, white people continue to benefit from it and it’s not a stance of isolation to ask them to respect that they not claim our culture when we aren’t allowed to participate in it ourselves because of how white supremacy penalizes us for it.

[racistkin-blog]

I'm sorry but i cant help but think things like this is why black people aren't taken seriously when they bring up actual serious stuff. I'm black and lordy almighty this gave me a headache already

Right because racism is limited to Serious Stuff  Only, not micro aggressions and subtle behaviors that affect every single aspect of our lives. Because appealing to respectability has ever gotten white people to dismantle racism for us. 

[racistkin-blog]

Consider finding something productive to do because this actually doesn't matter at ALL.

Wow, thanks. Your message ended racism everywhere. 

[racistkin-blog]

Why can’t I kin/id outside my race if I am white?

Because race is an integral part of a person’s identity, especially if they are nonwhite. It influences each and every aspect of their life.

By saying you’re kin with/ID as a character who is a person of color when you are white yourself, you are implying that you can separate characters from their race, that all our lived experiences and struggles that come with being a particular race can be dismissed as immaterial without changing who we are. This is racist. You are erasing our experiences with race and appropriating our identity without ever having to experience all the pain that comes with it.

The “it’s racist to kin outside your race” thing was started by white people pretending to be Japanese.

Believe it or not, we are capable of finding things racist, independent of white influence. Further, this argument is utterly nonsensical - how is white people fucking up while pretending to be Japanese somehow license for more white people to continue to do so?

My friend is a person of color and they told me it’s okay to kin outside my race.

First of all, you need to stop using your nonwhite friends to defend yourself against accusations of racism. You are essentially using a restyled version of the “I have nonwhite friends, I can’t be racist” argument.

Secondly, you have no way of knowing whether your friend actually thinks it’s okay or whether they are merely afraid of calling you out because they worry that you will either not listen to them, accuse them of overreacting or cut them off.

Finally, just because your token friend of color has sanctioned your racism doesn’t make it any less racist.

I’m a person of color and I don’t think it’s bad for white people to kin outside their race.

People of color are not a monolith. You’re entitled to your opinion. That doesn’t change the fact that other nonwhite people are being harmed by this sort of racist behavior.

What if I call them synpaths instead of kins?

No. Doing so is making no change in your racist behavior; it is merely using a change in terms to attempt to placate those who have called you out.

What if I’ve put up a disclaimer on my kin/id page saying that I don’t claim the race of the character I kin with/id as?

That is simply insulting. You are basically saying “you don’t see color”, implying that the race of the character is immaterial and easily separable from the character. It is not.

What about reincarnation kin?

They still claim to be the nonwhite character. This is inexcusable regardless of how you try to explain it away. You cannot claim a character’s experiences as “your past lives” when their past lives have experience with racism you cannot possibly understand. I am not hurting anyone by being kin/id outside my race, it’s a simple coping mechanism!

You coping mechanisms are not beyond reproach just because you’re mentally ill, especially when they function at the expense of marginalized people.

You are in fact hurting people of color -especially those of us who are mentally ill and use kin to cope. This is compounded by the fact that we are doubly marginalized by racism and ableism and are thus more likely to go undiagnosed/misdiagnosed/have poor access to mental health care. We already have extremely limited representation in media, and it is entitled of you to lay claim to what few characters we have to, when there are countless white characters you have to chose from.

In addition, those of you going by nonwhite names - like white anime kins - add to the racism by claiming names that nonwhite (in this case Asian) people are discriminated for - in education and employment. It is beyond entitled for you as a white person to claim names from cultures when they’ve been stripped from us by white society.

I am delusional/psychotic and I cannot help my kins, asking me to do so is ableist.

Before you call us ableist, consider that white people are not the only ones who deal with mental illness. Then imagine what it is like to live with intersecting marginalization of racism and ableism, especially when there are people like you who blatantly abuse their white privilege.

If your delusions actively harm others, you cannot continue to excuse them. If you are capable of recognizing your behavior as delusional, you have the ability to make efforts towards changing your behavior. We say this as people who are delusional ourselves. It is not easy, but fighting racism was never going to be easy to begin with.

What can I do to change?

Stop going by ethnic kin names. Take the characters off your kin page. Try to distance yourself from the character. Focus on other kins - as a white person, you’re guaranteed to have - or find - plenty of others.

As for the future, you cannot help which characters you get kin feelings for, but you can help what you do with them. You can also educate yourself to rid yourself of the subconscious idea that race is a separable trait from our experiences, so you eventually see nonwhite characters as off limits.

I don’t care about this/I’m going to continue to kin outside my race.

Then please do not pretend to care about racism. It’s extremely exhausting and disheartening for us to broach this subject with white people who claim to be allies, only to have them continue with their behavior and shut us out because they care about maintaining their image as Good Whites than they do about actually changing their racist behavior. You cannot claim to be an ally when you are only anti-racist as long as it’s convenient/doesn’t require you to change your behavior.

[racistkin-blog]

It’s okay - even encouraged  - for white people to reblog this.

[racistkin-blog]

if you say you cant be kin/id outside of your race, the people you are talking about, and you yourself, arent actually kin ...

Apparently being racist is a requirement for being kin now.

[racistkin-blog]

what's your opinion on 1. people being kin/iding as non-human/made up races? 2. poc being kin with/iding as characters outside their race?

1. Would depend on how the race is coded. For instance, some are coded as marginalized by racism and it’s uncomfortable - even though sometimes that race allegory may be messy in and of itself - to have white people claim those characters.Other fictional races - for instance - the gems in Steven Universe may have individual race coded characters: for instance, Garnet is coded black. Obviously those are off limits for nonblack people.2. This is a more thorny issue. Most importantly, nonblack PoC should steer clear of iding as black characters since antiblackness specifically marginalizes black people and can be wielded by any nonblack person - nonblack people of color included.The issue with people iding as East Asian characters when they are themselves not East Asian is mainly how orientalist and fetishistic it can get. Of the people I have spoken to - most are open to other PoC iding with characters from their race, because of the shared experience of being marginalized by white supremacy, the dearth of non stereotypical characters, and because generally PoC tend to be more cautious not to claim the specific nuances of racism as experienced by that particular race.If any of my followers have input on this subject, it would be most welcome. 

[racistkin-blog]

Can white people follow?

Yes, that’s fine. You are additionally welcome to reblog informative posts (any posts made by this blog + reblogged posts as long as the OP of those have said it’s okay) but refrain from reblogging purely vent posts.

[racistkin-blog]

So if say, my Chinese friend opens up to me and tells them about an aspect of their life which they are unhappy with - am I to refuse empathy with that person, and make sure to clarify that "all i can be to you is a walking ear, since if i were to attempt to empathise with your experiences, it would of course be racist"?

I didn’t realize that when you extend empathy to your friends, you feel compelled to take on their name and pretend to be them.

I understand this is perhaps a difficult concept for you to grasp but you can in fact support and reach out to people without claiming their identity and experiences for yourself.