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@ravenblack909 Makoto would do this
LMAOOOO This was written by Makoto you can’t convince me otherwise 😭
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
NOW I WANT AN OVA FOR THE X-ZONE TRIO (Yuki, Koei, Arthur) WITH KYOICHI WHO WAS TRAPPED. I NEED THEIR STORY 😭😭
HONESTLY WE NEED MORE ARTHUR AND YUKI AS A CHARACTER AND NOT AS PLOT DEVICE. THE SAMEJIMA BROS TOO. ALSO KYOICHI; I NEED TO KNOW HIS FEELINGS WHEN SEPARATED AGAIN FROM MAKOTO.
I need another season.. with all the things that we never got to see..
The Samejima brothers’ parents for example!!
Literally I’m here making headcanons and even made AI pictures of how their parents would look like 😭
I need to know what kind of childhood they had!
But also? I kinda like that I don’t know so I can analyze and make my own conclusions 😭
A while ago I had a dream where we got season 2 😭
And I got to see a few scenes of it, most likely a climax of an arc where they’re at X-zone again and Taiga, and the other older riders like Koei and arthur, and probably Kyoichi too? Were being mind-controled by a villain, causing them to attack the other younger riders like Gabu, Sho, and Makoto (Ayumu and Kakeru were still around probably but I don’t remember the details)
It’s quite a big deal to Gabu cause his brother who’s only been nice to him, is showing him a face he’s never and will never show him, cruelty!
So Gabu has to fight to bring his brother back..
But what I remember clearly is the moment everyone’s back to normal, they’re all celebrating, and in the corner there were Taiga and Gabu, Taiga was probably thanking Gabu for bringing him back to normal, while holding back tears, Gabu couldn’t hold it anymore, so he hugged Taiga with tears in his eyes, so Taiga hugged him back, smiling but also with tears in his eyes!
This scene is a big deal cause we’ve never seen them crying nor hugging in the actual anime!
I already know why I had this dream LOL, cause Taiga being controled and turned EVIL is a scenario I thought about, I wanted to make an AU out if it, so my brain was like okay how about we make this real and fulfill your wish by making it happen on screen!?
What I love about that last scene is that it didn’t revolve around just these two, cause the other riders were happy celebrating and thanking everyone for bringing them back, which gave space for these two to be intimate without caring about anyone looking!
BRO YOUR DREAM... YOU DREAMED A WHOLE PLOT AND STILL REMEMBER THE IMPORTANT POINTS. AND IT'S IJ SEASON 2. I ENVY YOU.
Even in dreams Kyoichi abd Taiga couldn't catch a break 🤣🤣 so it's a fusion of some "What If"s and the plot of the second part of the story?
OH MY HEART SAMEJIMA BROS CRYING I WANT TO SEE IT 😭😭😭 WHY IS YOUR DREAM PLOT SO SWEET
Yeesss! LOL!!
You can tell what kind of stuff I think about all the time, that my subconcious finally decided it’s worth dreaming about! 😭
I LOOOVVVE plots where someone gets mind controled and ends up hurting their loved ones, it created all kinds of drama that I LIVE FOR!!
I kinda got that with Kyoichi in the last arc in the anime!
But you know why this would be a delicious plot for the Samejimas?
Because Gabu was willingly acting evil, ended up hurting Taiga, Taiga didn’t blame him at all, and I bet Gabu didn’t apologize either!
So if Taiga never got mad shile concious, then he will take revenge while being mind-controled!
And because Gabu changed you know he will regret everything!
He has to face his guilt and his brother’s cruelty and it’ll HURRRRTT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
Then when Taiga goes back to normal he’ll be tormented by guilt as well “I can’t believe I hurt you!”
But then Gabu cries “No! I deserved that!”
Then they all cry AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
THEY CRY, I CRY, WE ALL CRODE
THIS IS SOO DELICIOUS OMG I HONESTLY CANT IMAGINE GABU BEING HEARTBROKEN BUT I BET IT'S AWESOME (and painful)
This is also in line with the recurring plot points of IJ. If you wanted or desired something for yourself, even if it's positive, you'd be punished. Takeshi wanted to see his family again and ended up doomed his homeworld, Makoto wanted to go home and ended up separated AGAIN from Kyoichi, Sho missed his father and they became enemies, the older brother trio (Kyoichi, Koei, Taiga) wanted to protect their younger siblings and paid the heavy price for it.
YESSSS THAT’S WHY IT’S DELICIOUS!!
It’s the gap of Gabu being always tough, but then ends up doing something vulnerable, because it’s not like him it means a lot when he does it 😭
Oh wow!
This is an interesting theme, nothing goes the way you want it to basically!
It also a reminder that even though it was a fiction, the characters still prone to screw up like real person would. Even Kyoichi, who almost always shown as a mature person, actually did some blunders and tied with Takeshi for "who inadvertently doomed X-Zone the most" category.
So I think the start of this dream tragedy was "Taiga wanted to help or something but screwed up real bad".
This just shows how well-written it is..
Many people could look at it and dismiss it as a “Children Anime” but once you actually watch it with intent, these characters are handled with a lot of care!
Even good people, or protagonists can make mistakes, can hurt people, because they are all “people” at the end of the day, of course they make mistakes!
And what’s also great is that there’s no actual “villain”, and not in the all villains turn good or get redeemed at the end, there is always a reason and a story for why they ended up doing what they do!
YESSSSSSSSSSS ignoring that it was kinda too Sho-centric, slightly rushed its finale, and didn't show us some of important backstories & interactions (only hints) //SLAPPED
The best villain is a redheaded 5th grader brat and he was soooo enjoyable to watch <3 I'm glad he isn't "suddenly turned good", he's still an asshole, even Arthur still angry at him, but his development WORTH THE WAIT
LOL Protagonist previlige!
Tbh even other well-written stories end up making their stories protagonist centric in a way, like the protagonist has to be the one to defeat the main villain, they don’t let somebody do it, One Piece might be a good example of that, I guess it’s a Shounen trope..
I agree that it was rushed with its finale!
Seriously we could have had less traveling monster of the week episodic stuff and gave more time to the final arc 😭
The lack of backstories is in that weird middle, the characters are all well-written, their personalities usually stays consistent, you still get attached without knowing their backstories, and the anime gives enough hints for us the fans to draw our own conclusions..
BUT STILL! I REALLY WANTED TO SEE SOME BACKSTORIES!!!
It’s like, I wish I got more content, but I’m also having fun making my own backstories in my head because I don’t have official ones!
There’s always that fun when you try to find the missing piece!
HAHA yeah sometimes, but I also enjoyed the story where it was the protagonist's TEAM who defeated the strongest villain (like in Kamen Rider Gavv, theres' TRIPLE RIDER KICK AND IT WAS AWESOME).
YES, the fun part of fangirling the protagonist-centric story is scraping for hints for other characters. Pattern recognization, comparing with similar character/story, catching plot points even when it was misanimated or just the writers thinking "yeah this conflict would make the story more interesting even thought it contradicts some elements"...
(in Kamen Rider Gavv, ironically, the one I was scraping for hints was the protagonist himself X"D he was like the blorbo gremlin of his own series)
THAT'S WWHY I ENJOYED IJ WELL INTO ADULTHOOD, THE CHARACTERS ARE SOOOOO LOVABLE AND THE HINTS ARE DELICIOUS
Yeah it’s definitely more fun when they BREAK the trope!
Like when the whole team fights and defeats the antagonist, or when each one of the characters in the team fights when their specialty works best..
Tbh I don’t remember seeing the trope broken a lot, but I remember in Monogatari where the protagonists asked a former villain of another arc to defeat the current antagonist of the arc, he did, without the protagonists’ interferring!
It was one of my favorite arcs because they elevated that character from just a random villain in one arc into such an enjoyable and compelling character 😭
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
NOW I WANT AN OVA FOR THE X-ZONE TRIO (Yuki, Koei, Arthur) WITH KYOICHI WHO WAS TRAPPED. I NEED THEIR STORY 😭😭
HONESTLY WE NEED MORE ARTHUR AND YUKI AS A CHARACTER AND NOT AS PLOT DEVICE. THE SAMEJIMA BROS TOO. ALSO KYOICHI; I NEED TO KNOW HIS FEELINGS WHEN SEPARATED AGAIN FROM MAKOTO.
I need another season.. with all the things that we never got to see..
The Samejima brothers’ parents for example!!
Literally I’m here making headcanons and even made AI pictures of how their parents would look like 😭
I need to know what kind of childhood they had!
But also? I kinda like that I don’t know so I can analyze and make my own conclusions 😭
A while ago I had a dream where we got season 2 😭
And I got to see a few scenes of it, most likely a climax of an arc where they’re at X-zone again and Taiga, and the other older riders like Koei and arthur, and probably Kyoichi too? Were being mind-controled by a villain, causing them to attack the other younger riders like Gabu, Sho, and Makoto (Ayumu and Kakeru were still around probably but I don’t remember the details)
It’s quite a big deal to Gabu cause his brother who’s only been nice to him, is showing him a face he’s never and will never show him, cruelty!
So Gabu has to fight to bring his brother back..
But what I remember clearly is the moment everyone’s back to normal, they’re all celebrating, and in the corner there were Taiga and Gabu, Taiga was probably thanking Gabu for bringing him back to normal, while holding back tears, Gabu couldn’t hold it anymore, so he hugged Taiga with tears in his eyes, so Taiga hugged him back, smiling but also with tears in his eyes!
This scene is a big deal cause we’ve never seen them crying nor hugging in the actual anime!
I already know why I had this dream LOL, cause Taiga being controled and turned EVIL is a scenario I thought about, I wanted to make an AU out if it, so my brain was like okay how about we make this real and fulfill your wish by making it happen on screen!?
What I love about that last scene is that it didn’t revolve around just these two, cause the other riders were happy celebrating and thanking everyone for bringing them back, which gave space for these two to be intimate without caring about anyone looking!
BRO YOUR DREAM... YOU DREAMED A WHOLE PLOT AND STILL REMEMBER THE IMPORTANT POINTS. AND IT'S IJ SEASON 2. I ENVY YOU.
Even in dreams Kyoichi abd Taiga couldn't catch a break 🤣🤣 so it's a fusion of some "What If"s and the plot of the second part of the story?
OH MY HEART SAMEJIMA BROS CRYING I WANT TO SEE IT 😭😭😭 WHY IS YOUR DREAM PLOT SO SWEET
Yeesss! LOL!!
You can tell what kind of stuff I think about all the time, that my subconcious finally decided it’s worth dreaming about! 😭
I LOOOVVVE plots where someone gets mind controled and ends up hurting their loved ones, it created all kinds of drama that I LIVE FOR!!
I kinda got that with Kyoichi in the last arc in the anime!
But you know why this would be a delicious plot for the Samejimas?
Because Gabu was willingly acting evil, ended up hurting Taiga, Taiga didn’t blame him at all, and I bet Gabu didn’t apologize either!
So if Taiga never got mad shile concious, then he will take revenge while being mind-controled!
And because Gabu changed you know he will regret everything!
He has to face his guilt and his brother’s cruelty and it’ll HURRRRTT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
Then when Taiga goes back to normal he’ll be tormented by guilt as well “I can’t believe I hurt you!”
But then Gabu cries “No! I deserved that!”
Then they all cry AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
THEY CRY, I CRY, WE ALL CRODE
THIS IS SOO DELICIOUS OMG I HONESTLY CANT IMAGINE GABU BEING HEARTBROKEN BUT I BET IT'S AWESOME (and painful)
This is also in line with the recurring plot points of IJ. If you wanted or desired something for yourself, even if it's positive, you'd be punished. Takeshi wanted to see his family again and ended up doomed his homeworld, Makoto wanted to go home and ended up separated AGAIN from Kyoichi, Sho missed his father and they became enemies, the older brother trio (Kyoichi, Koei, Taiga) wanted to protect their younger siblings and paid the heavy price for it.
YESSSS THAT’S WHY IT’S DELICIOUS!!
It’s the gap of Gabu being always tough, but then ends up doing something vulnerable, because it’s not like him it means a lot when he does it 😭
Oh wow!
This is an interesting theme, nothing goes the way you want it to basically!
It also a reminder that even though it was a fiction, the characters still prone to screw up like real person would. Even Kyoichi, who almost always shown as a mature person, actually did some blunders and tied with Takeshi for "who inadvertently doomed X-Zone the most" category.
So I think the start of this dream tragedy was "Taiga wanted to help or something but screwed up real bad".
This just shows how well-written it is..
Many people could look at it and dismiss it as a “Children Anime” but once you actually watch it with intent, these characters are handled with a lot of care!
Even good people, or protagonists can make mistakes, can hurt people, because they are all “people” at the end of the day, of course they make mistakes!
And what’s also great is that there’s no actual “villain”, and not in the all villains turn good or get redeemed at the end, there is always a reason and a story for why they ended up doing what they do!
YESSSSSSSSSSS ignoring that it was kinda too Sho-centric, slightly rushed its finale, and didn't show us some of important backstories & interactions (only hints) //SLAPPED
The best villain is a redheaded 5th grader brat and he was soooo enjoyable to watch <3 I'm glad he isn't "suddenly turned good", he's still an asshole, even Arthur still angry at him, but his development WORTH THE WAIT
LOL Protagonist previlige!
Tbh even other well-written stories end up making their stories protagonist centric in a way, like the protagonist has to be the one to defeat the main villain, they don’t let somebody do it, One Piece might be a good example of that, I guess it’s a Shounen trope..
I agree that it was rushed with its finale!
Seriously we could have had less traveling monster of the week episodic stuff and gave more time to the final arc 😭
The lack of backstories is in that weird middle, the characters are all well-written, their personalities usually stays consistent, you still get attached without knowing their backstories, and the anime gives enough hints for us the fans to draw our own conclusions..
BUT STILL! I REALLY WANTED TO SEE SOME BACKSTORIES!!!
It’s like, I wish I got more content, but I’m also having fun making my own backstories in my head because I don’t have official ones!
There’s always that fun when you try to find the missing piece!
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
NOW I WANT AN OVA FOR THE X-ZONE TRIO (Yuki, Koei, Arthur) WITH KYOICHI WHO WAS TRAPPED. I NEED THEIR STORY 😭😭
HONESTLY WE NEED MORE ARTHUR AND YUKI AS A CHARACTER AND NOT AS PLOT DEVICE. THE SAMEJIMA BROS TOO. ALSO KYOICHI; I NEED TO KNOW HIS FEELINGS WHEN SEPARATED AGAIN FROM MAKOTO.
I need another season.. with all the things that we never got to see..
The Samejima brothers’ parents for example!!
Literally I’m here making headcanons and even made AI pictures of how their parents would look like 😭
I need to know what kind of childhood they had!
But also? I kinda like that I don’t know so I can analyze and make my own conclusions 😭
A while ago I had a dream where we got season 2 😭
And I got to see a few scenes of it, most likely a climax of an arc where they’re at X-zone again and Taiga, and the other older riders like Koei and arthur, and probably Kyoichi too? Were being mind-controled by a villain, causing them to attack the other younger riders like Gabu, Sho, and Makoto (Ayumu and Kakeru were still around probably but I don’t remember the details)
It’s quite a big deal to Gabu cause his brother who’s only been nice to him, is showing him a face he’s never and will never show him, cruelty!
So Gabu has to fight to bring his brother back..
But what I remember clearly is the moment everyone’s back to normal, they’re all celebrating, and in the corner there were Taiga and Gabu, Taiga was probably thanking Gabu for bringing him back to normal, while holding back tears, Gabu couldn’t hold it anymore, so he hugged Taiga with tears in his eyes, so Taiga hugged him back, smiling but also with tears in his eyes!
This scene is a big deal cause we’ve never seen them crying nor hugging in the actual anime!
I already know why I had this dream LOL, cause Taiga being controled and turned EVIL is a scenario I thought about, I wanted to make an AU out if it, so my brain was like okay how about we make this real and fulfill your wish by making it happen on screen!?
What I love about that last scene is that it didn’t revolve around just these two, cause the other riders were happy celebrating and thanking everyone for bringing them back, which gave space for these two to be intimate without caring about anyone looking!
BRO YOUR DREAM... YOU DREAMED A WHOLE PLOT AND STILL REMEMBER THE IMPORTANT POINTS. AND IT'S IJ SEASON 2. I ENVY YOU.
Even in dreams Kyoichi abd Taiga couldn't catch a break 🤣🤣 so it's a fusion of some "What If"s and the plot of the second part of the story?
OH MY HEART SAMEJIMA BROS CRYING I WANT TO SEE IT 😭😭😭 WHY IS YOUR DREAM PLOT SO SWEET
Yeesss! LOL!!
You can tell what kind of stuff I think about all the time, that my subconcious finally decided it’s worth dreaming about! 😭
I LOOOVVVE plots where someone gets mind controled and ends up hurting their loved ones, it created all kinds of drama that I LIVE FOR!!
I kinda got that with Kyoichi in the last arc in the anime!
But you know why this would be a delicious plot for the Samejimas?
Because Gabu was willingly acting evil, ended up hurting Taiga, Taiga didn’t blame him at all, and I bet Gabu didn’t apologize either!
So if Taiga never got mad shile concious, then he will take revenge while being mind-controled!
And because Gabu changed you know he will regret everything!
He has to face his guilt and his brother’s cruelty and it’ll HURRRRTT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
Then when Taiga goes back to normal he’ll be tormented by guilt as well “I can’t believe I hurt you!”
But then Gabu cries “No! I deserved that!”
Then they all cry AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
THEY CRY, I CRY, WE ALL CRODE
THIS IS SOO DELICIOUS OMG I HONESTLY CANT IMAGINE GABU BEING HEARTBROKEN BUT I BET IT'S AWESOME (and painful)
This is also in line with the recurring plot points of IJ. If you wanted or desired something for yourself, even if it's positive, you'd be punished. Takeshi wanted to see his family again and ended up doomed his homeworld, Makoto wanted to go home and ended up separated AGAIN from Kyoichi, Sho missed his father and they became enemies, the older brother trio (Kyoichi, Koei, Taiga) wanted to protect their younger siblings and paid the heavy price for it.
YESSSS THAT’S WHY IT’S DELICIOUS!!
It’s the gap of Gabu being always tough, but then ends up doing something vulnerable, because it’s not like him it means a lot when he does it 😭
Oh wow!
This is an interesting theme, nothing goes the way you want it to basically!
It also a reminder that even though it was a fiction, the characters still prone to screw up like real person would. Even Kyoichi, who almost always shown as a mature person, actually did some blunders and tied with Takeshi for "who inadvertently doomed X-Zone the most" category.
So I think the start of this dream tragedy was "Taiga wanted to help or something but screwed up real bad".
This just shows how well-written it is..
Many people could look at it and dismiss it as a “Children Anime” but once you actually watch it with intent, these characters are handled with a lot of care!
Even good people, or protagonists can make mistakes, can hurt people, because they are all “people” at the end of the day, of course they make mistakes!
And what’s also great is that there’s no actual “villain”, and not in the all villains turn good or get redeemed at the end, there is always a reason and a story for why they ended up doing what they do!
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
NOW I WANT AN OVA FOR THE X-ZONE TRIO (Yuki, Koei, Arthur) WITH KYOICHI WHO WAS TRAPPED. I NEED THEIR STORY 😭😭
HONESTLY WE NEED MORE ARTHUR AND YUKI AS A CHARACTER AND NOT AS PLOT DEVICE. THE SAMEJIMA BROS TOO. ALSO KYOICHI; I NEED TO KNOW HIS FEELINGS WHEN SEPARATED AGAIN FROM MAKOTO.
I need another season.. with all the things that we never got to see..
The Samejima brothers’ parents for example!!
Literally I’m here making headcanons and even made AI pictures of how their parents would look like 😭
I need to know what kind of childhood they had!
But also? I kinda like that I don’t know so I can analyze and make my own conclusions 😭
A while ago I had a dream where we got season 2 😭
And I got to see a few scenes of it, most likely a climax of an arc where they’re at X-zone again and Taiga, and the other older riders like Koei and arthur, and probably Kyoichi too? Were being mind-controled by a villain, causing them to attack the other younger riders like Gabu, Sho, and Makoto (Ayumu and Kakeru were still around probably but I don’t remember the details)
It’s quite a big deal to Gabu cause his brother who’s only been nice to him, is showing him a face he’s never and will never show him, cruelty!
So Gabu has to fight to bring his brother back..
But what I remember clearly is the moment everyone’s back to normal, they’re all celebrating, and in the corner there were Taiga and Gabu, Taiga was probably thanking Gabu for bringing him back to normal, while holding back tears, Gabu couldn’t hold it anymore, so he hugged Taiga with tears in his eyes, so Taiga hugged him back, smiling but also with tears in his eyes!
This scene is a big deal cause we’ve never seen them crying nor hugging in the actual anime!
I already know why I had this dream LOL, cause Taiga being controled and turned EVIL is a scenario I thought about, I wanted to make an AU out if it, so my brain was like okay how about we make this real and fulfill your wish by making it happen on screen!?
What I love about that last scene is that it didn’t revolve around just these two, cause the other riders were happy celebrating and thanking everyone for bringing them back, which gave space for these two to be intimate without caring about anyone looking!
BRO YOUR DREAM... YOU DREAMED A WHOLE PLOT AND STILL REMEMBER THE IMPORTANT POINTS. AND IT'S IJ SEASON 2. I ENVY YOU.
Even in dreams Kyoichi abd Taiga couldn't catch a break 🤣🤣 so it's a fusion of some "What If"s and the plot of the second part of the story?
OH MY HEART SAMEJIMA BROS CRYING I WANT TO SEE IT 😭😭😭 WHY IS YOUR DREAM PLOT SO SWEET
Yeesss! LOL!!
You can tell what kind of stuff I think about all the time, that my subconcious finally decided it’s worth dreaming about! 😭
I LOOOVVVE plots where someone gets mind controled and ends up hurting their loved ones, it created all kinds of drama that I LIVE FOR!!
I kinda got that with Kyoichi in the last arc in the anime!
But you know why this would be a delicious plot for the Samejimas?
Because Gabu was willingly acting evil, ended up hurting Taiga, Taiga didn’t blame him at all, and I bet Gabu didn’t apologize either!
So if Taiga never got mad shile concious, then he will take revenge while being mind-controled!
And because Gabu changed you know he will regret everything!
He has to face his guilt and his brother’s cruelty and it’ll HURRRRTT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
Then when Taiga goes back to normal he’ll be tormented by guilt as well “I can’t believe I hurt you!”
But then Gabu cries “No! I deserved that!”
Then they all cry AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
THEY CRY, I CRY, WE ALL CRODE
THIS IS SOO DELICIOUS OMG I HONESTLY CANT IMAGINE GABU BEING HEARTBROKEN BUT I BET IT'S AWESOME (and painful)
This is also in line with the recurring plot points of IJ. If you wanted or desired something for yourself, even if it's positive, you'd be punished. Takeshi wanted to see his family again and ended up doomed his homeworld, Makoto wanted to go home and ended up separated AGAIN from Kyoichi, Sho missed his father and they became enemies, the older brother trio (Kyoichi, Koei, Taiga) wanted to protect their younger siblings and paid the heavy price for it.
YESSSS THAT’S WHY IT’S DELICIOUS!!
It’s the gap of Gabu being always tough, but then ends up doing something vulnerable, because it’s not like him it means a lot when he does it 😭
Oh wow!
This is an interesting theme, nothing goes the way you want it to basically!
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
NOW I WANT AN OVA FOR THE X-ZONE TRIO (Yuki, Koei, Arthur) WITH KYOICHI WHO WAS TRAPPED. I NEED THEIR STORY 😭😭
HONESTLY WE NEED MORE ARTHUR AND YUKI AS A CHARACTER AND NOT AS PLOT DEVICE. THE SAMEJIMA BROS TOO. ALSO KYOICHI; I NEED TO KNOW HIS FEELINGS WHEN SEPARATED AGAIN FROM MAKOTO.
I need another season.. with all the things that we never got to see..
The Samejima brothers’ parents for example!!
Literally I’m here making headcanons and even made AI pictures of how their parents would look like 😭
I need to know what kind of childhood they had!
But also? I kinda like that I don’t know so I can analyze and make my own conclusions 😭
A while ago I had a dream where we got season 2 😭
And I got to see a few scenes of it, most likely a climax of an arc where they’re at X-zone again and Taiga, and the other older riders like Koei and arthur, and probably Kyoichi too? Were being mind-controled by a villain, causing them to attack the other younger riders like Gabu, Sho, and Makoto (Ayumu and Kakeru were still around probably but I don’t remember the details)
It’s quite a big deal to Gabu cause his brother who’s only been nice to him, is showing him a face he’s never and will never show him, cruelty!
So Gabu has to fight to bring his brother back..
But what I remember clearly is the moment everyone’s back to normal, they’re all celebrating, and in the corner there were Taiga and Gabu, Taiga was probably thanking Gabu for bringing him back to normal, while holding back tears, Gabu couldn’t hold it anymore, so he hugged Taiga with tears in his eyes, so Taiga hugged him back, smiling but also with tears in his eyes!
This scene is a big deal cause we’ve never seen them crying nor hugging in the actual anime!
I already know why I had this dream LOL, cause Taiga being controled and turned EVIL is a scenario I thought about, I wanted to make an AU out if it, so my brain was like okay how about we make this real and fulfill your wish by making it happen on screen!?
What I love about that last scene is that it didn’t revolve around just these two, cause the other riders were happy celebrating and thanking everyone for bringing them back, which gave space for these two to be intimate without caring about anyone looking!
BRO YOUR DREAM... YOU DREAMED A WHOLE PLOT AND STILL REMEMBER THE IMPORTANT POINTS. AND IT'S IJ SEASON 2. I ENVY YOU.
Even in dreams Kyoichi abd Taiga couldn't catch a break 🤣🤣 so it's a fusion of some "What If"s and the plot of the second part of the story?
OH MY HEART SAMEJIMA BROS CRYING I WANT TO SEE IT 😭😭😭 WHY IS YOUR DREAM PLOT SO SWEET
Yeesss! LOL!!
You can tell what kind of stuff I think about all the time, that my subconcious finally decided it’s worth dreaming about! 😭
I LOOOVVVE plots where someone gets mind controled and ends up hurting their loved ones, it created all kinds of drama that I LIVE FOR!!
I kinda got that with Kyoichi in the last arc in the anime!
But you know why this would be a delicious plot for the Samejimas?
Because Gabu was willingly acting evil, ended up hurting Taiga, Taiga didn’t blame him at all, and I bet Gabu didn’t apologize either!
So if Taiga never got mad shile concious, then he will take revenge while being mind-controled!
And because Gabu changed you know he will regret everything!
He has to face his guilt and his brother’s cruelty and it’ll HURRRRTT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
Then when Taiga goes back to normal he’ll be tormented by guilt as well “I can’t believe I hurt you!”
But then Gabu cries “No! I deserved that!”
Then they all cry AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
NOW I WANT AN OVA FOR THE X-ZONE TRIO (Yuki, Koei, Arthur) WITH KYOICHI WHO WAS TRAPPED. I NEED THEIR STORY 😭😭
HONESTLY WE NEED MORE ARTHUR AND YUKI AS A CHARACTER AND NOT AS PLOT DEVICE. THE SAMEJIMA BROS TOO. ALSO KYOICHI; I NEED TO KNOW HIS FEELINGS WHEN SEPARATED AGAIN FROM MAKOTO.
I need another season.. with all the things that we never got to see..
The Samejima brothers’ parents for example!!
Literally I’m here making headcanons and even made AI pictures of how their parents would look like 😭
I need to know what kind of childhood they had!
But also? I kinda like that I don’t know so I can analyze and make my own conclusions 😭
A while ago I had a dream where we got season 2 😭
And I got to see a few scenes of it, most likely a climax of an arc where they’re at X-zone again and Taiga, and the other older riders like Koei and arthur, and probably Kyoichi too? Were being mind-controled by a villain, causing them to attack the other younger riders like Gabu, Sho, and Makoto (Ayumu and Kakeru were still around probably but I don’t remember the details)
It’s quite a big deal to Gabu cause his brother who’s only been nice to him, is showing him a face he’s never and will never show him, cruelty!
So Gabu has to fight to bring his brother back..
But what I remember clearly is the moment everyone’s back to normal, they’re all celebrating, and in the corner there were Taiga and Gabu, Taiga was probably thanking Gabu for bringing him back to normal, while holding back tears, Gabu couldn’t hold it anymore, so he hugged Taiga with tears in his eyes, so Taiga hugged him back, smiling but also with tears in his eyes!
This scene is a big deal cause we’ve never seen them crying nor hugging in the actual anime!
I already know why I had this dream LOL, cause Taiga being controled and turned EVIL is a scenario I thought about, I wanted to make an AU out if it, so my brain was like okay how about we make this real and fulfill your wish by making it happen on screen!?
What I love about that last scene is that it didn’t revolve around just these two, cause the other riders were happy celebrating and thanking everyone for bringing them back, which gave space for these two to be intimate without caring about anyone looking!
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
Ohhhh so it's more like yugioh then...
Tbh I dont think I would consider the manga is the "correct version" because I already enjoy the anime characterization. WHAT DO YOU MEAN TAIGA WAS CHEATING???
Ikrrrrr?!!
I 100% prefer the anime for how they handled Gabu’s character development!
I can’t really judge the manga without reading it but clearly they didn’t have that 😭
I honestly believe the anime staff elevated the story with their changes!
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
WAIT THERE'S A MANGA??
My god he sounds like a monster when you describe it... maybe you're right, but I think it can be rationalized as "he's also a teen and Team ST's bad influence made him a monster".
Tbf he didn't target Sho after Kyoichi crashed him out of the course, so maybe Koei feels like "well you want to fight against me ALONE, so don't feel too confident" and decided to go full Asshole Mode
In TV Tropes term this is called "Characterization Marches On", where a character intro is wildly different than their later characterization
LMAO YES!!
The Manga is completely different from the anime though..
I found a Japanese Website that summerized what happened in every volume, along side some of the things I knew from the Japanese wikipedia page..
The biggest difference is that there’s no isekai aspects!
The entire world they live in is pretty much like X-zone in the anime, where they can use superpowers and control everything with MTB..
If I remember right, Takeshi had a team (can’t remember its name) I don’t remember what happened to them but they were like.. the biggest team in X-Zone, which is just an area in their world (not a different world), then something happened and Team Shark Tooth took over, Gabu was the leader, Taiga was an evil bastard who cheated in his battles and got kicked from the team because Gabu didn’t expect him to be a cheater 😭
It’s like they flipped Gabu and Taiga’s personalities!
Koei was a part of Team ST, and of course he was also an evil bastard 😭
There are more details that I forgot, but I’ll leave the website here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
IDATEN翔の解説。読みは「いだてんじゃんぷ」。藤原としひろの代表作。MTB(マウンテンバイク)を愛する少年、山登翔が、シャークトゥースとの戦いを繰り広げながらMTBの聖地といわれたXゾーンを取り戻し、リーダーとして成長していく姿を描く。「コミックボンボン」2004年4月号から
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
He's one of the most impatient fictional ninja I know HAHAH
He's straightforward but also tricky & quite unpredictable in battle, oh the duality of Koei the Ninja Rider... He also likes to do some brutal technique BUT also used the same technique to help people.
Omg... he's the tired young adult equivalent of Sho Yamato
Tbh I think this is one of those cases where the anime writers weren’t sure what do with him at first..
He was cruel and stayed cruel in the manga, and seeing how he acted the first time he showed up, maybe they intended to keep that characterization..
But then decided like nah he’s an Idaten bike rider gotta make him good!
So they suddenly made him respectful and doesn’t like to cheat, even though he literally interrupted Sho and Kyoichi’s battle, didn’t dven go to win but tried to crush them instead, crushed Kyoichi, but didn’t take his emblem! Is he being respectful again here like “I didn’t win in an official battle so I’m not gonna take the emblem, I crushed you because I had to!” Kind of way? But then he decided to have an actual battle without interruptions with Sho, then what was that with Kyoichi before? 😭
They then introduced his sister just to reinforce that he’s a good guy forced into the bad guy act idea 😭
Tbh He has to be the most chaotic character in this anime, you know what he’s thinking because he usually says it, but then you don’t really know what he’s thinking?
I find it funny that this guy, a ninja, has less petty communication issue than a certain middle schooler. The only misunderstanding is when he refused to explain to Sho why did he cheat, and when Ayumu accused him. He's as blunt as Kyoichi but his intentions were more transparent, and I love him for that.
LOL no wonder he earned Taiga’s respect, the most straightforward out of all straightforward people ever 😭
^ ngl there were a few times where I was like why are you telling them that dude is so honest 😭
Tbh Koei’s bluntness is one of the fun things about his character, he doesn’t beat around the bush, like “if I have a problem with you then I’m gonna tell you in your face!”
But seriously, what kind of shinobi skills did they even teach him 😭
Even when they were infiltrating the X-team place to save Makoto and Gabu he went out of his way to wear a disguise only to PPSSSHHHHTT! Put them all to sleep 😭
And I’m like.. you’re a ninja you can probably sneak in there and stick yourself to walls or something?! No?! 😭
Nothing. Just Shidou Kyoichi hanging out with some (ex-) main villain.
This blonde kid is weirder than I initially thought...
Koei: - drops Kyoichi from the sky, injured him, broke his bike -
Kyoichi: “but.. you’re good now, no?”
Taiga: - sends a bunch of people to stop Kyoichi, some of them almost killed him -
Kyoichi: “but you’re no longer doing that.. we’re friends now!”
Gabu: - also sends people after Kyoichi, stole his emblem (and his friends’ emblems!), almost injured him with Bloody Impact -
Kyoichi: “but we’re on the same side.. we can talk about MTB now!”
Sho: - sharing the same motive from the start, they cooperated multiple times, saved each others multiple times, was nice to him and invited him to food -
Sho: “we’re friends!”
Kyoichi “NO!! Get away from me you naive immature gremlin!!”
I’m sorry but it’s just hilarious 😭
"If you're around me YOU WILL FUCKING DIE WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!"
*tbh he also said that he would join if Sho reaches his peak performance
ONLY SHO CAN INCREASE HIS CORTISOL TO THE INFINITE LEVEL HAHAHA but he also can be a substitute big bro again in Arthur vs Koei's race. He looks soooo proud when Sho became confident again 💕
This kid would grow up into a stressed girldad I already can see it
LMAO and you know he cares about Sho more than of the other three 😭
He tends to be harsh on the people he cares about the most!
Like he’s afraid of what could happen if he wasn’t there to protect them!
LOL I remember when he complemdnted Sho in front of Makoto but then told her “don’t tell Yamato Sho I said that!”
Dude where did you learn this tsundere act from 😭
Nothing. Just Shidou Kyoichi hanging out with some (ex-) main villain.
This blonde kid is weirder than I initially thought...
Koei: - drops Kyoichi from the sky, injured him, broke his bike -
Kyoichi: “but.. you’re good now, no?”
Taiga: - sends a bunch of people to stop Kyoichi, some of them almost killed him -
Kyoichi: “but you’re no longer doing that.. we’re friends now!”
Gabu: - also sends people after Kyoichi, stole his emblem (and his friends’ emblems!), almost injured him with Bloody Impact -
Kyoichi: “but we’re on the same side.. we can talk about MTB now!”
Sho: - sharing the same motive from the start, they cooperated multiple times, saved each others multiple times, was nice to him and invited him to food -
Sho: “we’re friends!”
Kyoichi “NO!! Get away from me you naive immature gremlin!!”
I’m sorry but it’s just hilarious 😭
Not Mama, but Another Baby
basically them
@ravenblack909
OH MY GOD THIS IS ACCURATE I’M CRYING 😭😭😭
He’s just a baby too 😭🍼
That’s adorable!!
LOL I see Taiga like this too, the “reliable” older brother who is actually just a baby who likes his bikes and plays with his lil brother all day 🥹🍼
YESSSS TAIGA IS A BABY TOO AND PROBABLY MORE CHILDISH/TEEN-ISH THAN KYOICHI IN THE REAL WORLD
That makes this photo funnier
There's TWO adults (one of them is a disguised authority figure) and neither of them feel like truly lead the rescue.
Ikr!! Taiga’s like “here’s all the information needed for the operation”! And Kyoichi is like “Good.. now you guys go there, and you guys check there, and me and Taiga will go there”!
Like they just took the lead while the actual adults who know the mechanics of the X-Tower are like “We acknowledge you as the reliable ones.. we shall follow..”
LMAO 😭
Also true!!!
Taiga literally didn’t care when they were trying to take Sho and the others’ course in the real world, didn’t mind all the taking over X-Zone Gabu was doing, he’s literally seeing it as the natural result of them being the strongest like yea baby we’re Shark Tooth we take over goverments and stuff we don’t play around! 😭😭
UNTIL he reached that point where he couldn’t endure Gabu’s antics anymore like OKAY we need to drag him home or he won’t stop 😭!!
At least the very next episode we're witnessing Yuki doing a cool slide like a girlboss she is✨✨
First half of IJ can be described as "Yamato Takeshi Handed a Nuke to a Coughing Baby and Made It Everyone's Problem"
LOLL why did I imagine a chick just hatching from the egg and starts nuking everybody 😭😭
“Gabu No!”
Gabu 🐥:
Not Mama, but Another Baby
basically them
@ravenblack909
OH MY GOD THIS IS ACCURATE I’M CRYING 😭😭😭
He’s just a baby too 😭🍼
That’s adorable!!
LOL I see Taiga like this too, the “reliable” older brother who is actually just a baby who likes his bikes and plays with his lil brother all day 🥹🍼
YESSSS TAIGA IS A BABY TOO AND PROBABLY MORE CHILDISH/TEEN-ISH THAN KYOICHI IN THE REAL WORLD
That makes this photo funnier
There's TWO adults (one of them is a disguised authority figure) and neither of them feel like truly lead the rescue.
Ikr!! Taiga’s like “here’s all the information needed for the operation”! And Kyoichi is like “Good.. now you guys go there, and you guys check there, and me and Taiga will go there”!
Like they just took the lead while the actual adults who know the mechanics of the X-Tower are like “We acknowledge you as the reliable ones.. we shall follow..”
LMAO 😭
Also true!!!
Taiga literally didn’t care when they were trying to take Sho and the others’ course in the real world, didn’t mind all the taking over X-Zone Gabu was doing, he’s literally seeing it as the natural result of them being the strongest like yea baby we’re Shark Tooth we take over goverments and stuff we don’t play around! 😭😭
UNTIL he reached that point where he couldn’t endure Gabu’s antics anymore like OKAY we need to drag him home or he won’t stop 😭!!
Not Mama, but Another Baby
basically them
@ravenblack909
OH MY GOD THIS IS ACCURATE I’M CRYING 😭😭😭
He’s just a baby too 😭🍼
That’s adorable!!
LOL I see Taiga like this too, the “reliable” older brother who is actually just a baby who likes his bikes and plays with his lil brother all day 🥹🍼
How old is Yuki actually? She and Arthur kinda have rather big age gap (when she was a young teen, he's already an adult or maybe 18-19 y.o.). Koei & Kiku also probably are 10-12 years apart, because Kiku is hinted to be younger than Sho (she's just quite tall for her age), and Koei is probably one or two years older than Yuki.
well, we don't have any official ages for anyone apart from the main trio & Gabu, plus a slight hint to Kyoichi's but I actually visualise them as somewhat like this:
Ayumu → 7 (a 4 year difference with Sho)
Kiku → 8
Sho, Makoto, Kakeru → 10-11
Gabu → 10-12
Kyoichi → 15-16 (a 4-5 year difference with Makoto)
Taiga → 15-17 (a 5 year difference with Gabu)
Koei → 18-19 (an 11 year difference with Kiku)
Yuuki → 19-20
Arthur → 27-28
For me, I feel like Yuuki is older than Koei, but it's like a negligible 1 year difference or smth. I gave 2 ages for most characters since the show spans over a year somewhat, and characters like Gabu & Taiga came a whole year before the main trio did, which means they aged up even more.
I don't know how accurate they are, but the Japanese wiki DOES mention ages for a few characters beyond just our four 5th graders...
It says Koei is 18 (I thought he'd be around late teens or early twenties, so sounds about right!)
Yuki is 20 (I thought as much!)
Arthur is 20 (I... I thought he was much older for multiple reasons and had guessed him to be 25-30??)
The last one is the reason I'm not sure how true it is... bc I'm pretty sure we see that flashback as mentioned of Arthur looking as he does now while Yuki was looking notably visually young. Also during my VERY FIRST encounter with the wiki this info on others' ages wasn't there at all, so idk.
It also explicitly said that Kyoichi and Taiga's ages are unknown in the anime (which makes me think something might have been mentioned for them in the manga but changes to the anime make it harder to say...?)
My own guesses for the others are:
Ayumu= 6-8
Kiku= 9
Kyoichi=14-15 (Yuki picks him up pretty easily lol)
Taiga= 14-15 (I just don't have any better ideas...)
I think most of the ages we are assuming are quite similar, which can only be attributed to how old the character designs look tbh 😭
We'll have to check the source for the japanese wiki ages tbh, but atp, it's free space for everyone to just come up with whatever they want lmao
Sorry for the sudden intrusion 😭
But this is a topic I’ve been thinking about for a while!!
About the Wiki, I’ve found the Japanese Wiki and another website that had a summary of each volume of the manga, I’ll put it here:
https://mangapedia.com/IDATEN翔-h7lskcy9l
What I discovered though is that the manga and the anime are completely different! The anime staff only took the characters and a few vague settings and created their own thing, I’d love to go more in details but that would require an entire dedicated post so let’s go back to the age topic..
So first, Arthur and Ayumu are 100% anime original characters! Yup, they don’t exist in the manga 😭 so their ages are unknown for that reason, I don’t remember seeing a single mention of Kiku in any manga related summaries so she might be an anime original too (very plausible if you asked me!)
Yuuki though is an interesting case, because she started as an anime original but then the mangaka liked her and decided to add her to the manga later!? (According to the wiki though)
But the ones who we know their ages in the Manga are:
Sho, Makoto, Kakeru & Gabu: 11 years old (fifth grade)
Koei: 18 years old
Kyoichi & Taiga: 12 years old! (sixth grade!)
I know this is unexpected 😭
But they actually kinda looked 13-14 to me, so I guess 12 isn’t that far away 😭?!
Maybe an early puberty growth spurt!? 😭
Tbh Taiga in particular does look young..
When he’s together with Shark Tooth it doesn’t look like there’s a big age gap!
There’s a height difference but they still look like elementary schoolers, from what I’ve noticed:
Mantaru is the tallest, Taiga and Seiji don’t look that different! But Seiji appears bending his back out of fear a lot which could hide his height sometimes, Kiyoshi is shorter than both of them but still taller than Gabu, then Gabu, and finally Mitsuru being the shortest.
Another thing is the fact that Kyoichi and Taiga both look smol comparing to the adults!
Conclusion? I’m starting to believe that these two are indeed only one year older than their little siblings 😭
no way, I'm pretty sure the anime aged them up 😭 they are NOT twelve in the anime. Kyoichi was shown winning a junior high school contest, which is for 13-15 yr olds, and Taiga seems around the same age too. I guess maybe they were closer in age in the manga but since they made a lot of changes in the anime, the anime writers may have decided to up the ages to make it more fitting?
That is very possible!
Cause at first I thought they were at least 13 too 😭
But do you remember if they specified if the contest Kyoichi participated in was for middle schoolers?
We never got to see them at school (uniforms and bags are big clues!) so this might be one of the only ones we have to lead us to Kyoichi’s age 😭
Yea, they had specified it!! I don't remember if Makoto had said it or if the scene had a banner saying that in Japanese, but I remember it was mentioned
Oookay I found it!
I looked up a few things as well and discovered something weird 😭
So from what I looked up Makoto did say that her brother won the “Junior Tournament” multiple times, but the Junior class in Japan is strictly for 17-18 years old..
So if he’s younger he can’t participate!
Which is weird because.. Koei is 18.. and Kyoichi is clearly younger than him..
Now the tournaments that could have divisions depending on the skill and age of under 17 are called “Youth”..
Then I remembered something 😭
Remember the final episode when they were talking about participating in a tournament?
I went back to the flyer and tried translating it (I used Google translate and Gemini and ChatGPT to make sure 😭)
And it says: 6〜12才 小学生男女
Literally means: “Boys and girls in elementary school, ages 6–12”
But.. Kyoichi was training for it (Taiga too!)?!!
He was talking about it clearly as if he’s indeed included..
Which wouldn’t make sense if he’s older than 12 😭?!!
Soooo..
The anime staff are fucking with us!!? 😭😭
That leaves me with two theories, they either indeed planned for him to be older then changed their minds later, or they mistook the “Junior Tournament” for “Youth Tournament” and went along with it 😭
Maybe an anime mistake? They also forgot Taiga's earrings in episode 19 so maybe they didn't double check the age requirement in that flyer.
Tbh the flyer looks well detailed, so I’m leaning more into doubting the banner instead 😭
But I agree that there is a mistake here, and it’s creating some contradictions 😭
They really don’t want us to know Kyoichi’s age huh 🚶🏻♂️
Maybe more like "wait we thought we're agreed that Shidou-kun is older in this? Why is he 12 again?" kind of mistake because everyone kinda forgor 🤣
The scene where Taiga didnt have earrings, it lasted about two scenes:
LOLL Yeah maybe they decided that he’s older then at some point were like “wait.. how old is he again? Twelve in the manga? Twelve it is” and went along with it 😭😭
Wait wait I have another one!!
Episode 11 Taiga’s face paint turns black 😭
LOOOOOOL THIS YELLOW BABY CHICK BASICALLY HAD TO BE A MOTHER HEN TO ALMOST EVERYONE INCLUDING AN 18 YEAR OLD ISEKAI NINJA
HE'S LIKE NOT NEARLY FIVE APPLES TALL AND ALREADY BECAME A TEEN PARENT /jk
About Taiga, I think he's best described as "Written by someone who wasn't sure they like him or not" 🤣🤣
Ikkrrrr everytime I see him with Sho and the others he literally looks like the adult caretaker until you see him next to Yuuki and.. he’s just a baby Why are you so freaking smol 🥹🍼
I swear you couldn’t be more accurate with Taiga 😭
They didn’t even give my baby an Idaten bike but created anime original characters like Arthur and Ayumu and made them Idaten bikes 😭😭
But still gave him enough screen time and character development to not be an background character..
They never even let him win against Idaten bikes 😭😭
Like come on let him have his moments!! Let his bike turn out to be an Idaten bike or something!
Like imagine, Takeshi out of nowhere sees Taiga’s bike and be like “wait I made this!” And names it Shark Whirlpool or something Idaten-ish 😭😭
I NEED MORE OF KYOICHI & TAIGA INTERACTING AND COMPETING EACH OTHER. And maybe Kyoichi throwing shades at Team ST but with zero malice.
"Damn you're more mature than I thought."
"It thanks to y'all honestly😊"
"......oh. Right."
YESYESYES TAKESHI PLEASE GIVE TAIGA AN IDATEN BIKE but honestly it's fun (and painful) to see him became a plot punching bag, but I wont forgive the anime for sidelined him😈 WHERE'S THE LORE?? ONLY HINTS??
Shark Whirpool is a cool name but Taiga would probably has mixed feelings because it reminds him of the movie Sharknado (I've watch the clips, it's... an experience).
LMAO I WAS GONNA SAY SHARK TORNADO!!
But then the image of Sharknado came to me and I realized wait that sounds weird 😭😭
LOL imagine if Gabu forced Taiga to watch every single movie because it has “Shark” in it 😭😭?!
I really want Kyoichi and Taiga to have interactions too!
I actually think they will get along well, maybe too well..
They’re kinda similar actually 😭 both are serious and straightforward, Kyoichi is more blunt though 😭
And both kinda end up taking care of the younger ones!
Although Taiga struggles with Gabu, he’d scold the hell out of the four kings if needed 😭
So imagine these two sitting drinking juice (because they’re under age) complaining about those kids like some retired parents!
“Seriously.. I can’t understand what Sho is thinking!”
“Gabu doesn’t even speak human language.. he’s just yelling.. that’s worse..”
EVEN WHEN WE GIVE TAIGA THE THING HE DESERVES HE STILL GETS BULLIED BY THE NARRATIVE HAHAHAHAHAHAH
LIKE THEY SHOULDDDD HAHAHA I CAN IMAGINE TAIGA COMPLAINS THAT KYOICHI STILL HAS MAKOTO AND SHE'S A GOOD KID LIKE HER BROTHER AND ALL TAIGA HAS WAS FIVE CHILDREN-SHAPED HEADACHES
I realized that Kyoichi with Sho was like a dog owner that has to keep their pet from eating random things, and Taiga with Gabu is basically a chihuahua owner experience
LMAO Imagine Kyoichi saying that nah Makoto is stubborn and Kakeru is a scaredy cat but it sounds like bragging to Taiga 😭😭
That chihuahua part is hilariously accurate I CAN’T—
"BRO I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I LOVE GABU BUT PLEASE SWITCH PLACE WITH ME--"
"OKAY DO YOU WANT TO GET POSSESSED, TAIGA?? DO YOU WANT TO F**KIN POSSESSED AND HARM YOUR LOVED ONES??"
".....nah I'm good."
Hilariously Gabu & Kyoichi once were chilling side by side once they're on screen together so probably Taiga was right X"D
LOL My crazy headcanon for that is Gabu was missing Taiga so much but doesn’t wanna admit but then saw Kyoichi and was like “you look older brotherly enough..”
But Taiga will never know that..
Gabu would probably makes Kyoichi his victim once he know how nagging this teen parent is X"D It probably would became a war between a stubborn mama cat and an unruly chihuahua
Taiga: I told you so
Kyoichi: “TAKE YOUR BROTHER BACK!!”
*handing him to Taiga like a bag of potatoes*
Gabu: “Grrrr! And here I thought I liked you! Aniki! I’m going back to you! Better be grateful!!”
*Taiga recieving his bag of potatoes like it’s the end of the world*
Taiga: “That’s it.. this is my fate.. there is no savior in this world..”
STAAAHHHHPPPPPP I CAN'T BREATHE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ALMOST SLEEP TIME IN INDONESIA AND I'M WHEEZING LOOOOOLLLL
Taiga: .......whatever. Welcome back.
Gabu: Can we torture him a bit? For payback? *pointing at Kyoichi*
Taiga: WHAT--NO!!! YOU'RE GROUNDED!!
Gabu: SINCE WHEN YOU BECOME A GOODY TWO SHOES, ANIKI?!
LMAOOO The best kinds of laughs are when you hide under your blanket wheezing and trying not to wake everyone 😭😭!
Taiga thinking to himself: “oh shit the more I press the worse he gets.. I need a different plan!”
*Taiga buys a bunch of snacks*
Taiga “Look! Gabu! We can eat them when we go home!”
-plaese fall for it please fall for it!-
Gabu, looking at the snacks like they killed his pet: “DO I LOOK LIKE SOMEONE YOU CAN BUY WITH SOME CHEAP SNACKS!!?? ARE YOU LOOKING DOWN ON ME!!??”
Taiga to himself: “ugh I knew it..!”
*Gabu snatchs the bag of snacks and opens one*
Gabu, MUNCHING: “well, I’m gonna eat them, BECAUSE I WANT TO! Not because you told me to! Hmmph!”
*walks towards home holding his bag of snacks like it’s the most precious treasure ever*
Taiga: “… Wait.. it.. worked?!”