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(Grand ordered the construction of Lab 5, chapter 52)
That's interesting. Before Ishval/in the early Ishval days, Grand was a Colonel, while afterwards, when it talks about him being in charge of research at the labs, he was a Brigadier General.
So, did he retain the same responsibilities in his promotion? Or I guess he continued in the same area but might have been given more responsibilities - that makes sense.
And then Lab 5. When was that built? If Grand ordered it made, you have to assume he's in on the making of the Philosopher's Stones - that's too integral to that lab to ignore. That means Grand is a part of the whole conspiracy.
Was he part of it all when he shot Brigadier General Fessler in Ishval for ordering the deaths of the Ishvalans who wanted to speak with the Fuhrer about a truce? Did he shoot Fessler for his own personal greed ("Seems like I could get away with it now."), or because he thought at this rate someone would do it and it was the best way to guarantee the conspiracy had continued leadership?
Or did he only come on board after Ishval? And the stones were made elsewhere before, but they were still trying to churn more of them out?
The idea of the conspiracy members turning on each other for greater glory is ... insidious. And very, very interesting.
Answering my own questions as I go: Basque Grand is ~a bad guy from the very start~!
Lab 5 was especially designed to make the Philosopher’s Stone! Check out the size of the room! The carvings built into the wall! It's clearly a Big Alchemy deal, with Father's stamp all over it.
(Transmutation about to begin, chapter 59)
Marcoh was the 'inventor' for this era's iteration of the Stone - the one with all the research. Lots of alchemists and scientists worked on it, and became ingredients for later stones, but Marcoh escaped.
It's not a known process that they're continuing. They're 'pioneering' it (with help from the homunculi).
(Marcoh, Lust, chapter 59)
So in this earliest iteration - in the lab specifically built to make the Stone, the human ingredients are Ishvalans:
(Ishvalans on the transmutation array, 59)
Which Ishvalans? Look at their clothes - oh! Those pants look like military pants!
These Ishvalans are the Amestrian soldiers arrested for 'conspiracy' in the previous chapter.
(Ishvalan soldiers dishonourably discharged and arrested, chapter 58)
There's a level of wear and tear on the building that makes it seem less new, but how long has Grand been around? How high a rank would he have to be to order it built?
Here's some of the wear and tear:
(external wear - concrete breaking off and exposing brick underneath, cracks in the building; internal wear - broken and corroded pipes, bent and damaged-looking metal, chapter 59)
The external looks old. Uncared for. It could be an older building that was repurposed? The internal could be alchemical damage left unmended and given time for some corrosion to set in?
However old the building is, Basque Grand ordered this Philosopher's Stone lab to be built, and he put it next to the prison in order to use them as ingredients. Possibly knowing that they'd be Ishvalans, and he'd be using his fellow soldiers for a weapon to be turned against their people.
All of this before he appeared to be the 'good guy' by shooting the irate, war-hungry, deathmonger Fessler who was undoubtedly on the side of Father's conspiracy.
(Hughes and the soldiers who witnessed this welcome Grand aboard as their new leader, chapter 60)
That means Grand's action there was not to save the Ishvalans and give them a chance to beg Fuhrer Bradley for surrender - he knew they were going to die. And yet when they approached in surrender, he decided to take them back to Fessler. Fessler demanded their extermination, looking like the bad guy, and Grand got to shoot him and seem like the good guy. Even going on to indicate to the Ishvalans that he wanted peace:
(Basque Grand is manipulative or heavily conflicted, chapter 60)
Basque Grand is the Good Cop side of Father's conspiracy, pretending to be just like all the other soldiers - we all want the war to end! - even as he wreaks destruction.
Killing Fessler seemed good to the soliders. Seemed like an act reaching for peace, but all it did was get Grand a promotion, and stop someone else from taking the same opportunity.
Ishval, culture and architecture
(during the war, but before the alchemists came through, chapter 58)
Crowded markets.
They have watermelons <3
Riza says it's nothing more than rocks and sand there. I know watermelon can grow in hot, dry areas, but they'd need a fair bit of watering. I wonder if it's imported from an ally like Aerugo (who were also shown to be importing weapons for them, up to a point), or if Riza never got to see the spots suitable for growing this kind of produce before the Amestrian military destroyed it.
(a warrior priest teaching young students, chapter 58)
Shoes off before they step on the rug. Sitting on the floor together. The teaching area is so close to the public area, not hidden away.
Also, I'm starting to really pick out the plain+ornamentation kind of style. It's partly the art style, and how much Arakawa likes to give the eye something to focus on without cluttering the panel - but the Ishvalans specifically seem to have this contrast of plain (clothes, architecture, decoration), with a little bit of ornamentation. I'm looking at the plan stone of the building, with one rug (detail implied) and an ornate vase(?) in the centre. I'm looking at the plain, rectangular pillar with little decorations down at the bottom - the same decorations also on the curtain next to it.
(Ishvalans bury their dead, chapter 58)
Every culture has its rituals around death. Burial with a headstone is presented both in Amestris (Hughes) and here in Ishval.
One of the grieving women wears a veil over her face.
Still looking at architecture, the buildings above are shown with flat roofs, some with jutting up bits that seem to indicate walls around a surface that could be accessed. Could be used for storage, a space to dry out wet laundry, or an open area for the occupant to be in. Buildings shown here typically have multiple floors.
(it looks like Arakawa really wanted to show the Ishvalans as having their own culture and style, rather than just brushing them off as 'other', chapter 58)
The buildings follow the decorative look with a little embellishment: the first metre or so of them seems to be built of a more textured medium, like brick or stone, and then up from there is a smooth surface. This looks like an architectural choice rather than a visual shortcut for "I didn't draw this bit" because of the abrupt cut-off.
Windows sometimes have bars, sometimes nothing, sometimes have cloth hanging over them. Doors typically seem to have a cloth entrance.
(the consistency of this style gives it significance, chapter 58)
The decoration around the above building is just really nice.
(even as there's little left of Ishval, we keep seeing it, chapter 59)
This tall building - one window high up - could have been a bell tower, a storage area, or a watch tower. Still, at the top, there's that little bit of ornamentation.
(and in the end, this is what Amestris leaves, chapter 59)
You can still see, in the little that remains, the decorations that makes it Ishvalan. That makes it theirs. And the rest is rubble.
Most of the mischaracterization Riza suffers from wouldn’t be nearly as popular if people actually understood why she follows Roy and it isn’t just love and loyalty.
One of the main reasons she stays by his side is because she sees herself as the guardian of flame alchemy. She’s trying to make sure of two things: 1. no one ever gets their hands on it again. and 2. the only person who can use it never misuses it again. That’s why she follows him. She has to. She’s watching the weapon she helped create.
And she has to keep him alive not only because he’s the one with the political power (meaning he’s her only real way to make sure the trials happen), but because he has to live long enough to atone for what he did with flame alchemy. The power SHE gave him.
From Riza’s point of view, every crime Mustang commits is hers too. Every time flame alchemy is used to kill that blood is on her hands too. Every person he killed is someone she killed by proxy.
She’s not just guarding him. She’s sharing his guilt. It’s like she’s trying to atone for her own sins, but he has to atone too so she can atone through him.
I think this Hannibal quote fits them really well: “You and I have begun to blur. Every crime of yours feels like one I’m guilty of.” Like yeah she obviously love him. But reducing their relationship to just that completely flattens what’s actually going on.
There's a point of contention in the FMAB fandom about Mustang and Hawkeye's goal of bringing about the Nuremberg Trials: Amestris Edition. Did they change their minds? Did they try and fail? Did they accomplish it? Did doing so cost them their lives?
So I want to know what y'all's headcanons are.
What happened with the "Ishval Trials?"
Mustang changed his mind and didn't pursue this
Mustang pursued this but it never happened
The trials happened, those tried were acquitted
The trials happened, those tried were convicted and imprisoned
The trials happened, those tried were convinced and executed
I have no headcanons about this
Please reblog if you vote, I would like a wide range of opinions. Thank you!
Edit: fucking auto correct 😒. I'm not remaking it, y'all know what I mean
Not to be all Riza Hawkeye <3 or anything, but some of my favourite Riza panels have to be in the conversation in her apartment.
(all manga pics from chapter 58)
The whole atmosphere feels more relaxed - no uniform, hair not in work-mode, talking personal stuff and actually opening up a bit. She just looks so comfortable and soft. It's not a nice conversation, but there's just something vulnerable about it all.
This next one particularly - that vulnerability, uncertainty, somewhere around the eyes as she starts talking about Ishval. It's such a simple part of the drawing, but somehow Arakawa really captures that hollow, vulnerable look really well.
I just love her character design so much.
And I get so disappointed by FMAB Riza in comparison. Like, they haven't done a horrible job? But the first time I saw her on the screen in FMAB - so excited for another FMA anime!! - I actually had to pause and just wrap my head around how they'd changed her, because it was like what have you done to my girl?? They took away the edges of her eyes, made her a different genre of person, even.
Here she is in the same scene, for a direct comparison.
Why did they change her? The hair seems chunkier, but I get that - it makes the design simpler to draw. They've made her face longer, squarer. They made her eyes bigger, squarer. Eyelashes sticking out at the bottom seem like they're specifically drawing her eyes down more instead of the pointier shape? I don't understand why though?
It's like they thought manga Riza was too cute. Or that if you're over the age of 25* you can't have round little cheeks any more. Was the shape of her eyes too much like she was wearing eyeliner and mascara, and they had to de-makeup her by squaring her out everywhere?
*Not picking a specific age for her. I know there are opinions.
Manga Riza looks younger. I wonder if the change to her design was to make her look older. Put some more space between the protagonist kids and the grown ups he associates with.
I was so disappointed when I noticed the difference. They really had favorites in where to put the budget T^T. I first watched FMAB then read the manga and I was flabbergasted??? Especially for a character like Riza who's one of a few words ?? Arakawa gives her so much depth and personality in a single facial expression !! Where are the little pinches of her mouth or the sharpness of her eyes 😭
I feel like an entire part of her characterization got lost in FMAB bc of this kind of neglect :'(
Yes! She's so visually expressive in the manga! Look at all that emotion!!
And it's just made me (re)notice her eyebrows too. I'm always surprised by how short they are. That thick bit in the centre, then they trail off, and stop before I'd expect them to.
They're quite angled in the manga. They typically point down in the centre unless she has a specific centre-raise kind of emotion (sad, fear, self-deprecation).
(young Riza about to panic/cry versus regular-age Riza with surprised eyebrows about to jump off her face, chapter 58)
The raise of her eyebrows is fairly comical in that one there :'D In fact, Arakawa usually draws her so cool and calm, in comparison to Ed and Roy jumping from sleek to alligator-mouth comical, that this is probably one of the most "I am a cartoon character and something unrealistic is being portrayed" moments in her design.
(self-deprecating because she's going to keep living out of boxes until Roy becomes Fuhrer, chapter 58)
(eyebrows fairly passive position, maybe a slight intentional downturn out of concern for Ed, chapter 58)
This one is a fairly neutral position for her, and they're still low and angled. They go about three quarters of the way across her eye
as compared to
(from episode 30)
Eyebrows down because of the emotion, cool, but they're longer, they don't taper as quickly, and they're ... so straight?
(also ep 30)
They've kept the shadow indicating the fold of her eyelid in the same place and just picked her eyebrows up (not just raising the centre, but the whole thing), so it looks like this is her neutral look, rather than intentionally raised. It makes her whole neutral expression look less concentrated, more relaxed.
I know the eyebrows aren't a standard anything in the manga - they change in length, and that one from the chapter 58 title page has them almost vertical - but I just love the character shown through her tiny, angry eyebrows.
The reactions to the Royai fake out though:
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these are for……all of u guys. i hope u enjoy
leftover doodles....
I don’t have that many leftovers and some of these are pretty old
Once I had a sprig of thyme it grew both night and day ‘til a false young man came a-courting to me and stole all my thyme away
Time it is a precious thing and time it will grow on and time will bring all things to an end and so my time grows on.
thinking about riza have rough hands with callouses from her firearms and writing vs roy’s smooth hands from him wearing gloves more often
A small break from work
Don’t forget to dry your colonel after a rainy day
Drying Black Hayate
Since y’all seemed to like the last pic (and cos I liked the sketch), here is a colored version