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School for Good and Evil (& books) sideblog!

[reenaofpashadunes]

I need someone to make modern AU Agatha art where she has a mullet PLS 🙏 I would also take a wolf/shag cut or those short fluffy hairstyles 😮‍💨 bonus for like a wolf t shirt lmao I WISH I COULD DRAW I SEE THE VISION SO CLEARLY

[reenaofpashadunes]

Tedros being every SGE lesbians comphet will never not be funny to me

[agoraphobe]

[reenaofpashadunes]

oh this is so Agatha :(

[reenaofpashadunes]

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

Fic about Agatha have a spiral and Kiko helping her out! Lil character study.

[maximoffsgirl]

glinda is so apple white coded, both lesbians that can't stand not having things their way

[reenaofpashadunes]

don’t forget about Sophie of woods beyond

[reenaofpashadunes]

[reenaofpashadunes]

loving the concept for Nicphie having an extreme height difference. Like Sophie is comically short and Nicola is a skyscraper.

[pumpkinpaperweight]

It makes me so crazy how Tedros and Sophie are two sides of the same coin and No One Talks About It...? They're opposite ends of each conflict in each book; Good and Evil / Prince and Witch, Boy and Girl, even Young and Old; Sophie is relentlessly, anachronistically modern, and Tedros is from the most ancient legend of any of the lead characters, and royalty relies upon tradition and dynasty. In book 1, Sophie dies and Agatha ends up saving her. In book 6, Tedros dies and Agatha ends up saving him (in a roundabout way). They both die to rectify past mistakes or transgressions, even though neither of them should really have had to do that. Sophie's mother is dead, and she resents her father and his new family. Tedros's father is dead, and he resents his mother and Lancelot. They both know they're a lot like their dead parent, and they kinda come to hate it, and try to escape it with varying degrees of success; or at the very least, their actions are dictated by said parent, especially their worse decisions. They're both a bit vain and a bit prideful and a bit fake. They're initially obsessed with appearances, and seriously good at putting up fronts. They both rely heavily on Agatha to keep them grounded. They both get deeply upset and defensive when they percieve they've been rejected or abandoned. They both have a temper and zero impulse control. They both appeal to the two separate sides of Agatha; Sophie the part of her that wants to be ordinary, Tedros the part of her that wants to be worthy of more, and valued and important. This, of course, makes them woefully incompatible because the things they resent about each other (Tedros thinks Sophie is a fake and unreliable and self-centred, Sophie thinks Tedros is obtuse and insensitive and unworthy of Agatha's attention) are criticisms that could easily be turned around on the person making them. It just seems fascinating to me that they're probably one of the strongest cases for foils / parallels in the series but it never really gets brought up.

[eloisecarles]

I watched the adaptation of The School for Good and Evil on Netflix and was, to be honest, kind of disappointed. I watched without reading it first which made me wonder : "Is the book as bad as its adaptation ?"

The whole ambiance, world and characters in the movie felt really promising but also sort of shallow.

Then I read the first book and realised how much more nuanced it actually is and how more developed the characters are.

So I made a series of character designs based on the book and movie characters.

First : The Evergirls Reena, Kiko and Chinen (which isn't in the books but deserved her own character design...)

[reenaofpashadunes]

castle crumbling is soooo Tedros coded

[cosmoshungers-sge-specials]

My darling girl the apple of my eye my love my beautiful queen my dearest beloved

[pumpkinpaperweight]

Hey, do you mind if I ask you about how you see Tedros and Sophie's relationship?

It's just that I've noticed that when you write them, they're closer to their dynamic in CY than in book 3. Sure that's how we last saw them but do you think that's how he should have always written them? as frenemies from the most vitriolic side? how do you see the closeness in 3 then? because Tedros there is very willing to be Sophie's bff even fighting with Agatha at various points.

CY in general gave me a whiplash because the characterizations undid or stagnated, I never knew if the Tedros and Sophie thing was to create tension or what happened to make them antagonistic.

(this turned long sorry)

mm. well, they're a bastard of a pairing for sure, because they don't really do 'sorry' very well; they do to agatha, but I don't think they ever apologise to each other, which leaves a lot,,, unresolved. tedros feels innately wronged by sophie for like 2/3 of the first trilogy (largely understandably, ngl), and all of their closeness in the original trilogy is always happening under false pretences; first sophie comes onto him because he's assumed to be the kiss that can get them home, then the whole thing with filip, and then in TLEA sophie is only trying to be mates because she wants him back and manipulated agatha into backing off; which is a shame, bc they did have some legit moments there, but as usual the foundation of it was fabricated. so I feel they've never been sure how to act sincerely with each other bc it happens so rarely, and their trust in each other is basically zero as a result, which puts them on super rocky ground. I guess you could explain that as to why they're horrible to each other in TCY, and I didn't hate it all the time, but it definitely would have been nice to see it be more balanced than just They Hate And Mistrust Each Other Haha. Funny Quip, especially when it started putting dents in the plot and in other character dynamics. I could bite through steel with the amount of fury that one scene in ACOT gives me (after the bungled execution attempt when sophie and agatha go off under sophie's big coat in the freezing woods and leave tedros, because he's suspicious of sophie, to trail behind them without a shirt 'until what he heard had humbled him' and THEN they let him walk with them. I've talked before about why I hate it so won't do it again) at that point it's way too much.

I mean, there is a lot of fun to be had in them getting shots off at each other, why lie, but also I feel 1) sophie needs to be criticised and agatha struggles to do it when it comes to things that actually matter or hurt her feelings, and 2) sophie provides a view on tedros which is biased as fuck but is not, importantly, clouded by anxiety and self doubt sfjhd. you kind of need them there on either side of agatha to re-tip the scales, because the three of them all have completely different attitudes towards each other and it keeps it balanced. tedros interferes in agatha being too codependent with sophie and puts into perspective that sophie is like... actually quite mean to her, but sophie intervenes with agatha getting too consumed in Ever bullshit since the two of them deconstructed a lot of that, and is a port of call that isn't a prince or an Ever at all. also with scott street, we haven't had awwp OR tlea, so what we have is a sophie who committed mass murder and manipulation like six months ago, and tedros who is struggling to believe she's not still like that, bc he's had almost no proof that she's not. he's slowly getting the proof but hell, he's not entirely convinced, still. he's remembered that he liked her for a reason, but there's a way to go. similarly, sophie is resentful of his straightforwardness and isn't entirely reconciled with the fact he (by virtue of just... existing and being obsessed with agatha) casts them all into the roles she was never happy about in the first place, and also they had. a very messy breakup, basically, sjjhdg. they can't really be chummy like they were in tlea, and even if they could, I'd fiddle with the dynamic because it existed in yet another one of sophie's falsified 'I'm good! pick meeee' bubbles and wouldn't be the same under another circumstance

also tedros is an easy fucking target for sophie to be mean to i can't even lie about that he's like a walking meme

[pumpkinpaperweight]

Sophie canonically having (forgive the tiktok term) zero rizz is something I always forget about her and it's kinda hysterical... (sophie voice) me and my new boyfriend I pulled by being batshit, doing what Agatha tells me, inventing the miniskirt, and then attempting to kill him once I get bored of him

[pumpkinpaperweight]

who is actually the main character of SGE

agatha

sophie

Voting ended onJul 6, 2023

('they're both the main characters' no I want you to pick a side and be ready to kill and die on the hill)

[reenaofpashadunes]

From an analytic standpoint I feel like Agatha is just living her life, finding her own story, even when she’s not trying to and she’s really just worrying about Sophie. Whereas Sophie is constantly reacting to this (in the first book at least) in the main conflict as she feels “Agatha is stealing her story.” So it’s Agatha’s story while Sophie’s sorta revolves around Agatha. Yes they both revolve around each other, but Sophie’s storyline is just chasing after Agatha’s half the time.

Also Aggie is just the main girl in my heart 🥰😜

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[reenaofpashadunes]

Agatha is sooooo reputation coded

[mistveera]

we all saw the barbie trailer right?