Stop calling fetuses "clumps of cells" 2k16
Just call them fetuses. “Clump of cells” is emotionally manipulative, just like antis calling fetuses “babies” and “children.” -V
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Stop calling fetuses "clumps of cells" 2k16
Just call them fetuses. “Clump of cells” is emotionally manipulative, just like antis calling fetuses “babies” and “children.” -V
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My abortion was great.
My abortion was safe.
My abortion was smart.
My abortion was good.
My abortion changed me for the better.
My abortion positively impacted everyone.
My abortion was handled with respect.
I am proud of my abortion.
I am proud of myself.
I’m sorry to hear that you were in a situation where abortion seemed like the best option for you. I don’t know what the circumstances were that led to that decision, but I can only imagine how difficult they must have been.
Whatever you may feel about your abortion, whatever it may seem like to you, none of that changes one simple fact:
Your abortion killed a human being.
Many post-abortive women don’t experience regret over their abortion for some time, often years later. If you someday find yourself feeling regret or pain over your abortion, know that there are people who love you and want to help you heal. You can visit abortionchangesyou.com, which is a great place to start the healing process.
"Oh you don't feel bad after your abortion? Here, let me shame you until you do so that i can prove the validity of my shit claim" Honestly, these people are absurd.
My abortion was great.
My abortion was safe.
My abortion was smart.
My abortion was good.
My abortion changed me for the better.
My abortion positively impacted everyone.
My abortion was handled with respect.
I am proud of my abortion.
I am proud of myself.
ok i should clarify my previous post regarding the differences between prolife and prochoice blogs. most of the blogs that are prochoice/blog consistently about being pro choice are very very rude to pro life people, and i can say this because I’ve been on the receiving end of a whole lot of their negativity and hate on numerous occasions. I have yet to see a militant pro life blog here on tumblr, but there’s a countless number of militant pro choice blogs, and I think that says a lot about both movements.
-CR
Try looking again, because while there surely are pro-choice blogs that are "very very rude" out there, there are also anti-choice blogs that are downright dangerous and hateful. Until then, i have two words for you: confirmation bias
If you have recreational sex, there is the possibility that you will face the consequence of getting pregnant. One way to responsibly deal with this consequence is getting an abortion. Abortion is not “having sex without consequences.” It’s dealing with those consequences in a responsible manner.
On Morality:
“People shouldn’t force their personal beliefs upon a woman’s uterus.” ~ Pro-Abortion argument
“People shouldn’t force their personal beliefs upon another person’s property.” ~ Pro-Slavery argument.
"People shouldn't trivialise historical struggles by appropriating them to [poorly] argue their point while ignoring the inconsistencies with their comparison" ~anti-racist/anti-jerkwad argument
I feel similarly to pro-abortionists as I do to pedophiles. Both see some sort of logic and necessity behind harming children for personal gain/satisfaction.
Oh lord haha. Anti-choicers LOVE their false equivalencies.
Unclean Lips
Hm. Well, while it's not true that abortion is never the preferred choice or a choice freely made, this statement should reinforce the notion that restricting abortion is not the way to ensure equity of choice for all pregnant persons; it should remind those who are anti-abortion (in particular) that their time and energy would be better spent dismantling systemic and institutional barriers that may prevent people who would otherwise choose to remain pregnant from doing so.
That's the dream
Does anybody know where I can get objective information regarding babies in the womb? I need to know more about their development and the biology of developing babies for something I’m writing, but I need it to come from an objective source that is neither pro-life or pro-choice.
If your aiming to be unbiased, then using proper terminology instead of emotionally manipulative language is a good place to start. You can be anti-abortion and still say "fetus". Promise.
Am I pro life or pro choice?
Okay so i don’t believe in having an abortion because to me it’s still a human. However I don’t think it should be illegal because it’s the Women’s body so they should have right choice if she wants to keep the baby.
What does this make me, pro life or pro choice?
So much of being pro-choice is recognising that other people have the right to decide whether to continue or end their pregnancy based on what is best for them, regardless of how you feel about abortion. So, although i can't tell you how to identify, that is a position that aligns with pro-choice ideals.
Imagine that a woman you know is pregnant. She plans to keep the baby and is excited to be a mother. You want to know how things are going with the pregnancy. Do you ask:
a) how is your fetus? b) how is your clump of cells? c) how is your body? d) how is your baby?
Of course, you’ll refer to her baby as a baby. So why do babies who are unwanted get demoted to non-persons, merely fetuses, clumps of cells, or part of your body which you can dispose of if you like? What is the difference between the biology of a wanted child and the biology of an unwanted child? Why does one get to be dehumanized?
Why does a mother get to decide if she’s pregnant with a person or not?
Because the person who’s pregnant can conceptualise their pregnancy in any way they choose? I mean, either way it’s still technically a fetus. But that goes without saying…i hope
Are you saying that a mother gets to decide if she’s pregnant with a person or not? If not, what do you mean by “conceptualise their pregnancy”?
Well...kind of. What i mean is that, medically speaking, it's a fetus. Legally speaking, it's not a person. But the pregnant person can think of their pregnancy however they choose. If they want to call it a baby, they can. If they want to call it a bun or a bean or a loveable little space invader, then more power to them.
Imagine that a woman you know is pregnant. She plans to keep the baby and is excited to be a mother. You want to know how things are going with the pregnancy. Do you ask:
a) how is your fetus? b) how is your clump of cells? c) how is your body? d) how is your baby?
Of course, you’ll refer to her baby as a baby. So why do babies who are unwanted get demoted to non-persons, merely fetuses, clumps of cells, or part of your body which you can dispose of if you like? What is the difference between the biology of a wanted child and the biology of an unwanted child? Why does one get to be dehumanized?
Why does a mother get to decide if she’s pregnant with a person or not?
Because the person who's pregnant can conceptualise their pregnancy in any way they choose? I mean, either way it's still technically a fetus. But that goes without saying...i hope
Can someone explain
Why some people consider it ‘inhumane’ to execute a convicted murderer but it’s not ‘inhumane’ to abort a fetus who’s only fault was being conceived by the wrong people or at the wrong time? (I disregard rape and incest in this, the psychological and genetic problems the mother and child could have from such conceptions is too horrendous to not offer the chance for abortion)
What you’re perpetuating here is a false equivalence. The two scenarios have little to do with one another. Were the convicted murderer to be taking up residence within someone else’s body, well that would be another story (see where I’m going with you this?)
I see where you are going with this but a murderer has taken a life or even multiple ones (once proven in a court of law or has admitted guilt), a fetus has not chosen to be created or has chosen to take up a persons body and resources. I do understand why women should have the choice over what goes on in their body and I support that. But I dislike the idea that somehow a murderers life is ‘important’ or should be ‘spared’ when they themselves did not give this thought to their victims and that somehow it is ‘cruel’ to end their lives when they have done something that is more horrible then most things anyone else could do in their life (I put rape of any person and abusing a child in most ways [sexually, emotionally, hitting them] in the same category as murder). Along a similar line, a fetus does not develop from a sperm and egg thinking ‘I will use this body for my own’, but has been put there by circumstances beyond it’s own control.
All i see is one big false equivalence. “A murderer is guilty but a fetus is innocent”. One scenario has basically nothing to do with the other. Capital punishment is about the ways in which a society deals with those who have committed a serious crime. Abortion is about people having access to full reproductive health care. A comparison between the so-called morality of a fetus and the morality of a convicted murderer just derails any productive conversation that could be had about either topic. Also, just so we’re super clear, abortion is 100% not used a means of punishment for the fetus. That’s not what it’s about. That’s not a thing. We’re all on the same page there, right? Okay good. Phew.
We’re not but I respect your opinion and see where you are coming from with how it is a 'false equivalence’. I dislike that idea because they are both about the termination of things that have potential. As one person stated a murderer may have been falsely accused, they could be rehabilitated and return to society, the same as a fetus could become a helpful member of society or not. There is both potential and a horrible hinderance in people’s lives on both sides of the 'keep or get rid of’ opinions on both the subjects of a criminals life and a fetus life. I do understand that it is ultimately up to the person who is actually carrying the child inside of them to choose whether or not to continue with the pregnancy, and I cannot morally judge them. I also know it is not a 'punishment’ you warped my words. I placed no morality in it, but whether the people who think putting down a criminal is 'inhumane’, without compassion or mercy, which many abortions are treated as, which bothers me a bit. It is a fetus, I do know that, not a fully formed, feeling, thinking human in the least bit, but the potential it carries is more then the potential of the criminal who is in jail. I dislike the presumptuousness of you last few sentences. I’m trying to see two things that are viciously debated, which both end up affecting living people, destroying 'life’, and the views of potential in things some people see as 'human’ (a murderer and a fetus). Your opinion is very welcome though and I look forward to talking about it more if you’re open to it.
'kay but. The problem is, it makes it difficult to continue a discussion when you begin from a place of logical fallacy. Because it immediately puts me ( and you too) in a position of defending my stance from an ever-expanding hole of invalidity. For example, i did not warp your words; in order for your analogy to work, we must either presume that abortion is an instrument of punishment for the fetus (which, just..no) or that capital punishment is not a form of, well, punishment. See the problem with starting an argument from a false equivalence? It doesn't help anyone get their point across. Besides, you talk about each side having "potential and horrible hindrances [...] on both the subjects of a criminals life and a fetus life" without any mention of the potential of or hindrance to the life of the person who's pregnant, and i have zero interest in illogical discussions about abortion that also erase the pregnant person.
It’s sickening to hear people say things like these pro-choice idiots are saying. They are literally okay with aborting a baby up until the moment before it’s born. They are half of the reason I’m never going to shut up about how awful abortion is.
The funniest part about this video is the way he treats "at what point in a pregnancy should abortion be illegal?" like a "gotcha" question. He seems so impressed with himself, too, poor fellow. Clearly there is no point at which abortion should be illegal. It's how we do in Canada. And guess what? Abortion is still regulated by the medical community. The second funniest part is when, thanks to one lady's sign, it appears as though the word "vagina" is coming out of the dudebro's mouth.
Can someone explain
Why some people consider it ‘inhumane’ to execute a convicted murderer but it’s not ‘inhumane’ to abort a fetus who’s only fault was being conceived by the wrong people or at the wrong time? (I disregard rape and incest in this, the psychological and genetic problems the mother and child could have from such conceptions is too horrendous to not offer the chance for abortion)
What you’re perpetuating here is a false equivalence. The two scenarios have little to do with one another. Were the convicted murderer to be taking up residence within someone else’s body, well that would be another story (see where I’m going with you this?)
I see where you are going with this but a murderer has taken a life or even multiple ones (once proven in a court of law or has admitted guilt), a fetus has not chosen to be created or has chosen to take up a persons body and resources. I do understand why women should have the choice over what goes on in their body and I support that. But I dislike the idea that somehow a murderers life is ‘important’ or should be ‘spared’ when they themselves did not give this thought to their victims and that somehow it is 'cruel’ to end their lives when they have done something that is more horrible then most things anyone else could do in their life (I put rape of any person and abusing a child in most ways [sexually, emotionally, hitting them] in the same category as murder). Along a similar line, a fetus does not develop from a sperm and egg thinking 'I will use this body for my own’, but has been put there by circumstances beyond it’s own control.
All i see is one big false equivalence. "A murderer is guilty but a fetus is innocent". One scenario has basically nothing to do with the other. Capital punishment is about the ways in which a society deals with those who have committed a serious crime. Abortion is about people having access to full reproductive health care. A comparison between the so-called morality of a fetus and the morality of a convicted murderer just derails any productive conversation that could be had about either topic. Also, just so we're super clear, abortion is 100% not used a means of punishment for the fetus. That's not what it's about. That's not a thing. We're all on the same page there, right? Okay good. Phew.
Cultureshift is back as phoenix-of-life
You know the drill. Block and report. Take screenshots of his multiple accounts and send them to Tumblr so they can see that it’s the same person. The blog is full of gory images, so please don’t go there. Just block and report him, and reblog this post. -V