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Why Lando Norris is so disliked

I've seen many Lando fans wondering why he is disliked, or even hated, amongst the majority of the F1 audience nowadays. He has a talent of pissing off the supporters of various drivers on the grid, so I thought I would compile a masterpost of sorts of the main reasons why.

To start off, Lando's comments last year on the current and extremely controversial "Grab her by the pussy" President Trump:

People were rightly outraged, but Lando himself has also made misogynistic comments. Such as this stream on twitch:

where even his own friend Max Fewtrell recognises the bad language and tries to get him to stop "That one? Can we stop talking about it like that?" [...] Stop mate!"

And if you're thinking oh, that was years ago, he's changed - here's a similar comment from 3 months ago, referring to a girl being in the kitchen:

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Okay...so he's sexist. But what about his actual job? Well, he keeps that shitty attitude towards his competitors.

Empathy? Lando doesn't know her!

Take his former teammate Daniel Ricciardo. When he was struggling he famously said:

Which pissed off Daniel fans.

Drivers almost passing out from heatstroke? Well, as Lando said "they don't know [my situation].":

Again, Max F, aware of how this sounds, tries to dig him out of a hole, and Lando promptly ignores him to have his own pity party, which pissed off George fans.

He has a consistent habit of being selfish - such as when he narrowly beat Charles Leclerc in qualifying at his home race and bragged that "Beating the hometown hero feels good." which pissed off Charles fans.

But these are his peers. His competitors, in fact! He should be like that!

Okay - but he doesn't stop there.

World champions? Nah, they don't deserve Norris's respect either.

Sebastian Vettel? Should concentrate on his driving:

Which pissed off Seb fans.

Lewis Hamilton? Only had to beat two drivers:

Lando Norris said Lewis Hamilton's record-breaking achievement in the Portuguese Grand Prix "doesn't mean anything to me, really".

and he made the most of it, but now it's Lando's turn (except it's not, but we'll get to that):

Which pissed off Lewis fans.

Max Verstappen? It's not talent, just luck:

Which pissed off Max fans.

In fact, he thinks so little of his supposed friend, when he won the Dutch GP, Max's home race, he used his catchphrase:

Oh, but Max wouldn't think badly about that! It's just some friendly ribbing!

No.

Daniel Ricciardo, ex-teammate of both, said Max wouldn't take it lightly, and he didn't.

Max had already trademarked the phrase at this point, and re-iterated it after storming through the rain in Brazil and winning from P16, cementing his championship (while Lando went from pole to 6th...).

And talking of world champions and stealing their catchphrases... this year in Monaco, Jenson Button called him out on it when he did the same to him:

"You also said Monaco Baby which I thought I owned..."

So he's pissed off people in general, pissed off competitors, pissed off world champions... but he's got a good car, right?

Wrong - according to him.

Instead of owning up to the undeniable dominance of the McLaren car, he downplays it all the time. Again, bringing more bad feeling towards him.

But surely he's doing a good thing then, if he's got such a bad car? Well, he's shown to have no ability to actually race his car. He may be fast in clear air, but he has no skill in wheel-to-wheel. Continuing his trend of slagging off Max, in Miami he stated "That's just the way it is with Max, it's crash or don't pass."... when his own teammate had successfully overtaken him in the race to win. Peep Oscar's face - he's not impressed at Lando's excuse:

And it's not just his own teammate who finds him lacking in the actual racing department. After the Austin GP, where Charles did a mega defence against the faster McLaren, Lando complained in the cool down room that "It would be nice if it was a bit easy." earning disbelief and side-eye from Charles and Max:

He doesn't like the actual racing element of racing, and is bad at it. So bad, Lando has a reputation as a bottler. There's a reason he was called Lando Nowins for so long and was so insecure about the nickname that after his first win he released a line of "Lando No Wins" merch.

So he's a bad racer. His fellow drivers think he is bad:

as well as people in the paddock in general:

but... does Lando believe in himself? When he's not miserable every time he fucks up, sure!

He's so confident he's cocky, saying to reporters "let's see how much I can win by." and entirely ignoring Nico Hulkenberg's first F1 podium at Silverstone.

I think poor attitude is a Norris family trait, considering his father attempted to chant over the cheers for Nico - which pissed off Hulkenburg fans this time! Unfortunately I can't find any video evidence but I saw it live with my own eyes as did other fans:

Though, according to Norris, his dad is the reason he's not a good driver:

Because everyone would prefer being left at a gas station by their abusive dad instead of being bought their success:

In conclusion:

Lando may be a fast man in a fast car. In fact, he will probably win this championship by remaining in the front by himself - because as soon as he gets near someone he crashes (see Canada) or has to be told how to pass by his race engineer.

But as a WDC, he will never earn the respect of most fans and his fellow drivers for his poor attitude on and off the race track.

Even Max thinks him being a champion is a joke, as seen when he plastered a meme on his iracing car:

#coming back from dead just to hate

riderswithdogsblog

Let’s talk about the extreme hypocrisy of the drivers and a significant portion of the fandom, especially LH44 fans.

“Human Rights” unless we are getting paid millions. Unless the races are entertaining.

Nothing any driver ever said helped any change. Anyone from Middle East knows these are just sports washing, and F1 racing in Middle East is not helping anyone. On the contrary, they are taking part in covering the atrocities happening in these countries. Saying “Cash is King” won’t change anything.

“Womens Rights” unless the predators are in the paddock. Unless your favorite driver ever was engaged to a child.

This was even one of the reasons I quit this blog and any F1 community. I will never believe that a driver only worshipping a pedophile while not condoning him personally, but continue the obvious worship everywhere every chance is disgusting. The rise of Senna fans was caused by the drivers and their fans. I’ve been watching F1 since I could talk, and this worship did not exist.

Lets talk about the predators and their apologists in the paddock. Christian Horner, used his position of power against an employee who had to leave in the end. Despite the written evidence, he was excused. And as we all now if an investigation against an abuser is dismissed, they must be innocent right? No women ever had to see their rapists walk free despite evidence, right? As usual, we got a few weeks of outrage and nothing happened. Except to the victim.

What about Zak Brown bringing Donald Trump, who has been accused of sexual harrasment countless times, accused of sexual assault by multiple women, said sexually threatening thing on live TV and as president. Bringing this man into the paddock where they are “supporting women”. Yeah sure.

The most annoying comments come from the fanbase of a certain driver(ehem ehem) because they think they have the moral high ground. Just because someone says the correct things, doesn’t make them moral. He has morals as long as he wont be punished. This is not activism, and it is not helping anyone. All these men partake in an exploitative sport.

And Lewis’ extreme Senna admiration is absolutely disgusting. Good for you Lewis, that you are a man who can ignore Senna was a pedophile and unashamedly promoto and support him, teaching women and girls everywhere that if a man’s accomplishments are impressive enough, he could be excused for misogyny. I wonder how the reaction would be if another driver was supporting and F1-legend that abused a black kid. I wonder if Lewis’ reaction would be different.

Like it or not, Lewis is a huge hypocrite. He is arguably the driver with best morals, unfortunately. Because the best we have promotes a 25-year old man who was engaged to a 15-year old child. He could leave the sport with an unbelievable amount of money in the bank that we wouldn’t even imagine seeing. He doesn’t have to do this. If my morals crashed that much with a sports philosophy (cash is king), I would leave it. I have done it, I had to quit a job because my boss was an “alleged” rapist, despite needing the money. There is so much a person with morals can take.

Lewis fans act like Max is the worst person ever, calling him things like slurstappen. So tell me, is it better to promote a pedophile than to say a racial slur? And to avoid derailing, I don’t support Max either. But at least he’s not going around giving tributes to his father in law, Nelson Piquet the racist. He’s not promoting him. He may agree with him, but supporting and promoting are different things. I only think about Nelson Piquet when it’s brought up in the fandom. But every year Lewis brings up Senna.

This includes mr vettel too. Oh he likes bees? He is also a huge Senna promoter. I grew up watching Seb, and my disappointment in him is inexplicable. He is not a feminist, he is not a good person.

“Oh they all like Senna” then they all fucking suck. We are in 2024. And this is the kind of men that is being promoted by the so called allies. They aint allies.

Also shoutout to Lewis again, for making a movie with a wife and child beater. There is no excuse. He has fuck you money, he can reject anything. Yet he chose to work with Brad Pitt, and the “allegations” against him have been known long before they partnered up. He is a multimillionaire. He can do research on people he associates with. But no, Lewis’ ego is more important than all the men who hurt women. He will excuse violence against women as long as it benefits him.

Just because the person you support is better than the others, doesn’t make him good. Also you can support whoever the fuck you want, just don’t act like they are so moral and ethical and good and everyone else sucks. Because your fave is also an egoistical person who only cares about shit if it doesnt interfere with his paycheck.

If anyone read this far, I’d also love to hear you opinions, as long as it’s not the “It was the norm in Brazil”. I’m from fucking Middle East dont tell me about norms. My grandpa marrying my 15 year old grandma and having 7 kids with her was also the norm, doesnt change the pain hurt and trauma she lived and died with.

minimin95

I’m not reading all that because you’re attacking Lewis as though he a the only driver that idolises senna.

You’re attacking the only driver that consistently shows up for women and poc

You’re attacking someone that is constantly facing racism from the ppl in the sport

I got ull ppl to you saying max’s name

A driver that has no respect for others as displayed multiple times on track and in person

A driver who supports his mother’s abuser, his abuser. Supports a racist.

Lewis’ fans support our driver and defend him because of ppl like you.

Where’s your vitriol for the 19 other drivers on the grid and all the ones that left that do nothing

riderswithdogsblog

If you didnt read it all why are you commenting? i’m calling all of them out, just not personally because they arent considered morally superior. How is he uplifting women while making a movie with Brad Pitt? Promoting Senna? I mention everyones adoration with senna, but no one is promoting him as hard as Lewis and Sebastian. Maybe read the post before commenting on made up shit I didnt say? I call them all hypocrites? They are all shitty. But not all of them acting like they are morally superior.

minimin95

I read the rest and made an edit and up and down that fucking grid they all of them like senna and speak about him when asked. I personally don’t care for Senna or Michael so I don’t promote either or engage with anything related to them.

And no you didn’t go in on all the other drivers because your post would be significantly longer. There are 20 drivers currently on that grid and more than 10 that have left since Lewis started driving.

You attacked Lewis and team lh and threw in a few lines about .

Now go find the teamlh members happy about the movie with Brad Pitt in it, it’ll be very few we aren’t stupid and we do call and hold our driver to account.

Maybe state your issues with f1 as a whole and stop singling out that man because mentioning him is the fastest and easiest way to get engagement

riderswithdogsblog

What engagement? This is a dead account, and I made a post to express my frustration with all this.

I stated my issues with others too. Lewis is the most popular with most platforms and most coverage. Of course there is more to say about him, because he has been the star of f1 since 2014. Even in 2007 we were obsessed with him and his skills. I don’t know shit about Zhou, Albon, Stroll etc. I am not looking for F1 gossip.

People are calling Senna’s actions “questionable choices” because these men, all of them, show idolizing for Senna. And I see to most from Lewis, and also Seb with his shirts and stuff. People are loving Senna, and as a result, make light of 15 yo-20yo relationships.

If you think that is an okay thing, we don’t need to engage further because we have different moralities.

minimin95

I know I said I don’t care for Senna or Schumacher in one of these responses.

If ppl chose to blindly follow that’s on them I support Lewis and appreciate some of the work seb has done and I’ll never contribute to that movie or purchase anything with Senna on it.

Piquet raced against Senna and was there when he was dating the little girl. He nor any of the other drivers said anything then and Max himself has also said he likes Senna.

Lewis isn’t running about yelling about Senna from the rooftops but like the other drivers expresses his admiration of the racer when asked.

It’s going to be just like all the little children that grow up with max as their racing idol even though he’s not a great person🤷🏾‍♀️

Deciding to single out Lewis when you have the active 4x wdc right there is quite the choice.

If your issue is the sport as a whole question the persons that go hard for it to remain as it is, the persons that see no issue with mbs and every other questionable choice made by form and the fia.

As for engagement, the Lewis Hamilton and formula 1 tags suggest you want exposure for your posts. If you were just venting you’d post tagless and then the likelihood of teamlh seeing this would be significantly smaller.

The purpose of my posts is that they’ve been questionable behaviour by some of the actual drivers that are on or have been on that grid and you decided that the one to chastise and voice negative opinions on is the only one that continues to make space for others.

I don’t know if you’re black but black people always have to work twice as hard to get half as far and you judging Lewis based on the platform he carved out of his hard work that he’s been mocked for over the years by his colleagues is a choice that says a lot to black fans and poc of this sport.

Any of those white men especially the other two wdcs on the grid could have worked for inclusion and if raised protests against things and they’d have gotten further faster than Lewis but they don’t care.

Attacking the person that has shown that he cares, his fans who also care, that’s a choice.

I hope you understand what I’m getting at but if you don’t cool. I’m not going back and forth with someone that supports two drivers that have excused their fans racism and who do nothing to advance minorities in Motorsport

riderswithdogsblog

You did give me good points to think about. Also thinking about it over more. Post was made in frustration and missed some key important points: Mission44 and Jos Verstappen. Carlos Sainz Sr and Perez’s dad also. The homophobia. I also probably didn’t word my thoughts properly due to said built up frustration. I also tagged stuff for my blog.

I think a important difference in this conversation is how we’re approaching. Most of the replies I have gotten for this post approach from racism angle, meanwhile my post and my vent was more about the misogyny and the hypocrisy. Which is why Lewis is mentioned more, because he is arguably the best person there, and yet even the best one is like this. I am not writing a huge expose on F1, this was the angle of my post.

And no, I’m not black. I’m arabic, unfortunately not a stranger to prejudice. I know what it’s like not to even be considered for jobs or apartments because of my name, always having to prove myself in every situation social or work, being harassed for existing.

But again, this post was not meant to about racism. I also skipped over a lot of homophobia etc. there are infinite things in f1 paddock to hate.

Also this is my blog I can say whatever the fuck I want? Just block and scroll away?

I think saying "promote" is quite strong and it can't just be put on to lewis, senna is a big name in f1 and brazilian media, lumping it all down to just money and morals just isn't giving the nuance that's needed. all of the drivers, all of the media should be held accountable, christ there's even a lego set of senna's car. the bigger question is why is it always lewis' responsibility as the only black driver to call the shit out? the standard he's held to far out weighs that of his white peers, and I think that's why people are so vocal about the good he's done. because he IS doing good, and he's miles ahead of his peers.

I don’t give a shit about Lewis’ race. I’m POC and tired of this discourse. He is the face of the sport right now, with more following than F1 itself. His words have more weight than Zhou’s. If he doesn’t want the responsibility, he doesn’t have to keep growing his following. There are many celebrities without big platforms that are still successful. It is a choice.

Maybe brazilian media, but not world. As I said, been following since I could talk. Senna was not this prevalent before drivers started tributing him. The entire situation is about money and morals right now. Drivers tribute him all the time, F1 sells Senna stuff, noone gives a shit about the message they are sending.