"Ray wanted that cookie so bad" "Pete wanted that cookie so bad" listen to me. Look at these two. They were both on their knees screaming and crying and begging for that cookie.
New episode just dropped on REFERENTIAL (available everywhere you get your podcasts ✨)
I'm joined by first time guest Shannon Miller (OG Nerd of Prey!!) to talk about the theme of Black Girlhood and Coming of Age in media.
Shannon Miller is a cultural commentator and writer who you might know from her work as the previous Managing Editor at Adweek, the former News Editor and writer at the A.V. Club, or her many bylines from throughout the web!
More links + notes below!
Our conversation spanned Black film, TV, characters and celebrity from Michaela Cole's Chewing Gum to Jodie Landon (Daria) and Megan Thee Stallion.
The erosion of physical media and Black TV cancellations
Judging art by quality vs utility
Empathy as an active process
Escapism
Steven Universe
Black girl magic
Toxic Excellence
I Don't Know Him.
Daria, Chewing Gum, Living Single, How To Die Alone, Heartstoppers, Harlem, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, Moesha, Insecure, Awkward Black Girl, On My Block
Wanting good things for Natasha Rothwell
Transitional periods
Issa Rae
Megan Thee Stallion
Cardi B, take me out of the group chat
Michaela Coel
SNIPER
Buy Black!
*apologies for audio issues on my end in the first 18ish minutes of the conversation, it fixes it self from that point onwards!*
If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the extended show notes under the 'Citation Page' tab on my website! The full extended notes are released a the weekend after initial release.
https://www.alsopurple.com/referential1
You'll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.
Find Shannon Miller @shannonlmiller on all Bluesky, @shannon_lmiller and listen to more of her pop culture thoughts @PopDishKitchen on TikTok and Instagram.
Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.
Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.
Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.
Find us on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/@referentialp
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