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Hello! Two fictives run this blog :] our main is @mellohimagic ! We will mostly tag who it is but old posts don’t tag it. cause back then it was just flowey

flowey, he/him

papyrus, she/he

uh dni: anti-endo/anti-nontramagenic, anti-kin (includes being against factkin/choicekin) thats pretty much it

#intro post #undertale fictive #undertale introject #anti endo dni

mar64ds

the most obscure papyrus fact is that he's my friend

this is true

mar64ds

i hope during a full snowgrave run, ralsei in a pit of despair does flowey's laugh and absolutely kicks our ass.

it'd be a nice touch.

Ralsei playing the Sans role?!?! This sounds awesome

under-lore

The “Smiley trashbag” nickname comes from Papyrus

Flowey has a very particular nickname for Sans.

But… ever considered the question of where did he get the idea to call him that from ? I think the game actually does answer this question.

We know that Flowey has seen every possible “line of dialogue”

We also know that he saw Papyrus as being particularly entertaining to play with compared to the rest of the characters.

With all of that in mind, there is one particular dialogue from Papyrus’ phone calls that Flowey must have seen at one point or another in his RESETS that really stands out.

After the second line but before the third one, this sounds as if Papyrus was calling his brother a “lazy bag of trash”. Even if it turns out to not actually be the case soon after, something like this would have absolutely caught the attention of a Flowey who was just trying to “see what Papyrus would say”.

Refering to Sans as a bag of trash, or a trashbag if you will, seems to have been something that Flowey loved enough to appropriate this insult for himself.

In addition, the third line explains that the trash is actually named trashy.

Trashy the trash.

It seems that this was intended to make us think of the similarly named “Flowey the flower”, and thus that this Papyrus dialogue was relevant to Flowey in some way.

All in all, it seems that Flowey’s nickname for Sans actually unintentionally originated from the Papyrus of an old timeline iteration when Flowey could still SAVE.

leshyleaf

Genocide route papyrus battle concept ↓

He’s very disappointed in you.

and thusly, the three stage battle begins…!

missholoska

💜 Soriel Week Year 7 @sorielweek Day 1: Fire 💙

family camping trip 🏕️🔥

(Toriel already guessed the dumb joke Sans' spooky story is leading up to, she's just waiting for the punchline)

leshyleaf

just a moment of quiet 🌼

(click for quality)

carlyraejepsans

I think the thing that makes undynes genocide fight so powerful is she is not only fighting for all monsters, but for EVERYONE.

“This isn't just about monsters anymore, is it? If you get past me, you'll... You'll destroy them all, won't you? Monsters... Humans... Everyone... Everyone's hopes. Everyone's dreams. Vanquished in an instant. But I WON'T let you do that.”

The fact that she was so insistent on hating humanity to switching to wanting to protect everyone, including humans, from you. Her fight is her truly giving every last piece of herself in an attempt to save everyone.

it's funny... somehow genocide gives a lot of the main cast a chance to have the same character development they have in pacifist.

papyrus, after seeing you ignore and ruin his puzzles without even just batting an eye, realizes his dreams of stardom and vaguely defined popularity aren't the right goal, and he should treasure his friendship with undyne instead (you don't even have to mention everything about his "i shall be your friend and guardian" speech before we confront him)

like you just said, undyne gets over her blind hatred for humanity and recongizes humans as the next logical victims of your annihilation, so she fights for THEIR hopes and dreams too!

alphys finally faces her mistakes for the greater good and literally saves half the population by evacuating the rest of the underground. EVEN bringing them to the true lab for safety where she hid the amalgamates, and going around hotland IN PERSON to make sure no one was left behind.

and while with sans it's much more of a grey case, he does finally get the desperation determination to ACT and give his actions some weight, even in spite of the resets.

flowey finally sees the horror of the "kill or be killed" mentality and returns to considering himself as part of the other monsters, and not Something Else Above Them (such as him begging Asgore for help)

it's almost ironic. it's almost poetic.

maxbruiser

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sukifoof-art

i think about them a lot.. besties

carlyraejepsans

I'm constantly rotating sans' nebulous morality compass in my brain, and if there's two pieces of dialogue in all of canon that I've never been able to concile with one other it's flowey's "piece of advice" post neutral route(s) and the way sans describes the anomaly in the second phase of his fight.

the ambiguity on whether sans would have killed you if he hadn't made that promise to toriel is an aspect of his character that makes him the perfect judge at the end of your journey. i don't think he would've, personally, but the only true reason i have to explain why is that capturing/meeting a real human would've made papyrus happy (remember how he was feeling down before our arrival?). it's a circumstancial explanation, i couldn't tell you if morally he has any stance against taking your life.

on the contrary, if there's anything that ties you to him regardless of his morals, it's his knowledge of the anomaly. both in how he realizes it's you pretty early in the game and how he... clearly empathizes with it. and kind of projects on it as well!

that's why flowey's advice sounds... odd to me. sans' feelings towards the anomaly are supposed to work as a contrasting force to whatever practical reason he'd have in killing you. he's more likely to be your friend as the anomaly, than as The Human. so when you take the human part out of the equation, it stands to reason that he'd have no interest in antagonizing you. even more so, asriel's story would be one he'd emphasize with even more so than ours (tried to help people through the wrong means and when he realized it met his death in order to set things right. woke up as the result of a science experiment gone wrong in a world different from the one he had left, constantly, desperately missing/grieving a person he loved dearly and that he can never see again)

but flowey says not to let him find out ANYTHING about you. heavily implying your reset abilities, ie your being the/an anomaly. granted, this dialogue comes after multiple neutral runs, so it's sort of a given you've both abused your save power to kill people out of curiosity. THAT'S where I think toriel's promise saves your ass. he WOULD kill you, out of moral AND practical reasons, given any other circumstances. but to act like his knowing you can reset alone is a threat?

...it just doesn't sound right to me.

theraccoonwtf

Plants VS Flowey

perlinnoisetexture

ID: a four panel comic featuring flowey the flower done in ms paint. the only thing colored in is flowey with loose scribbles on his petals and stem, with a hint of yellow blush on his cheeks.

in the first panel, he is facing the ground with a sad look on his face. he is saying “Listen, Frisk, I get why you want me up there. But I’m just… not ready to face them. Not yet, not after everything i did to them. I know they don’t remember and they don’t hold it against me but…”

second panel: he looks forward with an angry expression as he shouts “Don’t you understand, that makes it worse?!? Nobody knows what I’m really like! Nobody can forgive me!”

third panel: flowey slumps over, defeated. he says “Nobody but you…”

fourth and final panel: frisk has entered the frame and they have sat down next to him, patting the side of his head reassuringly. as they smile, they say “I forgive you.” flowey, still looking sad but perhaps calmed pauses, then says “I know.” /end ID.

in which the only person who can’t forgive flowey is himself.