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"Why does anyone care about AI—" I DON'T!!! I care that the site is so bad I can't play it! Everyone shut upppp about AI who cares!! THE SITE IS SO BAD I CAN'T PLAY IT!!!
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So how much are we betting that the coloring contest has been quietly shelved?
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wait, are you telling me someone seriously bought over 200 luna stones. Thats actually kind of sad 😭
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fuck em up P, you're my icon
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Why isn’t there a suggestion forum, like on every other forum-based petsite?
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The breakdown comes from Blue having a dream of a pet site and not understanding coding language and the dev's understanding coding language but not how a pet site works. And they're all ass bad at communication.
Like reddit forums are a HORRIBLE choice for an RP website, but if all they were told was "Make forums" maybe there was open source code on github they could yoink to use without thinking about whether it fit the purpose of PB.
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Poppy Seed Pets has come up on this blog before and it's true, while Ben has some light techbro tendencies and is open about using AI assistance in his game, he still knows how to code a game. When it comes to Pawborough however not only is it likely AI is being used, but it is being used poorly. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to worry about AI coding at all, but I'd at *least* still like to play a pet site made by someone who knows how to code one. CKC's only previous experience is coding basic sites like online stores, and you can tell with how Squarespace-esque the web design is.
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I think using ai to get the base skeleton of the layout code is fine in all honesty. it just saves time and doesn't require much. but I think that ai shouldn't be used when making features.
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Any word on a new pawpatch soon?
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are the official boards in randomized order every time i visit or am i oblivious and forgetful as hell
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I do think regardless of the code seeming like AI, it is highly suspect how one of the founders and developers has his fingers in the AI world, even declaring and speaking of personal AI usage. These things do need to be properly addressed instead of swept under the rug for us to try to ignore. We also should criticise how the site was developed, AI or not, as it is pretty shittily made all things considered. There is so much that does not make sense about the website, and it sure as hell does not feel like it was "made with love". AI could've been involved, but the fact is the website has an absolutely awful foundation. Why have there been problems persisting throughout all of the testing stages? Why have things left to fester? Why have bugs been popping up left and right? Why were there absolute game breaking exploits still within the game within a public beta? I understand the game is still within testing, but I feel like there should be a lot more polish for a public beta than we actually are seeing. It's all just very unfortunate because there are wonderful ideas here and fun art. It could've been an excellent game had it not been put together like this.
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Ok for the record theres no way to declare in totality that the code is ai generated. We can say that it Looks heavily ai generated because of the sickening jank and moronic architecture and everything about it, theres a lot of issues. Thats probably the closest we can get to confirming. That being said its stupid to try and shut down arguments about ai in pawboroughs code by saying theres no concrete evidence. Its like looking at a book with swathes of obviously ai generated work and being slammed for voicing your suspicions because there arent actual prompts anywhere in it and who knows, the author might just write like that.
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"look at the links" I said concrete. Everything presented is either circumstantial or just as likely a result of inexperience at best and incompetence at worst. It's the equivalent of smoke filling a kitchen after a loud noise goes off and assuming it was a gun.
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ykw this is a salt blog, i should be allowed to complain about having to play the rich people simulator game without ppl feeling the need to defend the current game economy so heavily. the bugs/learning curve makes PB in its current state a lot harder to be f2p than other games of this genre. farming is one of the few mostly f2p things to do without dedicating full actual days to grinding. fertilizer is the only way to make that profitable, im not bashing people making money in the number go up game, thats my goal too, but when it's literally the same 5 people selling most things on the fm and a total active player count of 100-300 people at any given time oligarchy isn't even that inaccurate of a statement. those folks may be f2p as well, good for them, but if they are it probably took an insane amount of time and luck to have any money in this game. the difficulty bar to do most things as a new or f2p player is extremely frustrating, and likely by design to push people to buy silver to keep the site funded. again not an issue, nature of the game whatever, i should still be allowed to bitch on the salt blog without people getting defensive over the state of site. if you want a game that is unappealing to new and f2p players you have it!! it's not the rich players themselves that are the problem, it's the state of the site being straight up unfun in most ways if you can't afford silver. the materials cost of fert/den expansions/all the item sinks on site reward the rich/heavy grinders and still don't address that the site is extremely difficult for new/f2p which would be way less of an issue if there was literally anything else to do on site. the culture it creates is setting the site up to be fun/useable only if you can spend hours a day on it grinding or drop hella real money on it. and before anyone calls me lazy for wanting SOME site things to be easier, how the hell is the community supposed to grow if everything is the most miserable grind on earth.
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Is anyone gonna actually talk about the AI thing publicly or is it just gonna be on this blog for the next decade?
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So I take it there's still no concrete evidence of ai use in the coding
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