QUEEN IN THE NORTH

just a got/asoiaf sideblog

[sansashcund]

Holy shit y'all

I had a dream last night about jonsa and I could not take it!!!!! It was so cute I'm gonna cry!!!!

[queenstarksansa]

Sometimes I remember Ricegate and I just laugh like a maniac.

[sansashcund]

I totally missed Ricegate what was it

[aejonxarya]

Jonsa stans are really just sansa stans who pretend to give a shit about jon, because they know he’s going to be king, and thus must be the one for their fave sansa coz they want her to be the “queen”. It’s pathetic how they try to dumb down/demonize other characters just so sansa can look better. And they’re invading the jon snow tag!

[sansashcund]

Everyone needs hobbies I guess,,,,,,,,,,,

[thronesofgames]

Sansa is not even Jon’s favorite sister, how can she be the love of his life? 😂😂

[sansashcund]

Sooooooooooo did you miss the scenes where he literally told Mel not to bring him back if he does or where he choked Littlefinger or where he left the North in Sansa's care or where he gave her the Lord's chambers or where he kissed her forehead

[asoiafships]

“I have made kings and unmade them. Sansa Stark is my last chance for honor.” Jaime smiled thinly. “Besides, kingslayers should band together.”

[glorianas]

i haven’t seen any jonsa priest au from using gunpowder screencaps like what’s happening here?

[robbsstrk]

I’m a slow learner, it’s true. But I learn.

[sansashcund]

Although Benjen Stark the Second is the third eldest Stark child, he was often treated as the youngest. From early childhood he was gentle and sweet, a striking contrast to his twin brother Robert. He had an agreeable nature, setting him apart from the rest of his siblings. Well liked by all, Benjen was regarded as less of a wolf, and more of a puppy.

Contradicting his otherwise gentle demeanour, Benjen proved to be a skilled swordsman, and he sought training from his aunt Arya. Under her tutelage he learned the ways of the Braavosi Water Dancers and the killing styles of the Faceless Men. When Jaqen H’ghar returned to the shores of Westeros, he further trained Benjen, making him one of the deadliest of the Stark children.

Despite his clear talent for combat, Benjen preferred to walk the path of diplomacy. Like his siblings, he learned the art of politics from his mother, but he was the only one to push it further and make it his specialty. He was named the official ambassador for the North, and often ventures South, where he is also popular, to represent his family’s interests.

Noah Schnapp, Logan Lerman, and Jake Gyllenhaal as Benjen Stark II

( @jonsasnow​ )

[whiteladyofrohann]

365 days of House Stark (14/365)

[bluegrasshole]

send me a made-up fic title and i'll tell you what i would write to go with it

[jeaanmoreau]

[jaime x sansa] karma

if you’re ever mean to me i’ll seduce your dad and get him to marry me then i’ll be your fucking stepmom and i’ll disable the internet every night at 7pm don’t fucking try me

tumblr awards prize for lizzie @theonbaejoys​

It had been easy to get Jaime Lannister to fall in love with her.

After all, years of playing the game had taught her how to pull the strings, and if there was something Sansa knew how to do, it was getting people to do as she wanted.

Jaime had never had a problem with her age; if anything, Sansa had noticed, the difference between them aroused him. She played up her innocence sometimes, though she had little to none left of it. He was good, there was no denying that. A good driver, a good cook, a good lay, and eventually, a good husband.

What had started as revenge for the scars left on her body by Joffrey had become her life quickly enough.

It wasn’t like Joffrey could move out, after all. He didn’t know how to do anything. All of his funds came out of his allowance. He was a clueless, petulant twenty year old, and, at his same age, Sansa had become his step-mom.

Jaime had had trouble with it at first, until Sansa had assured him everything would be alright and they could all be adults about this. There was no fighting love, after all. They were meant to be. Joffrey would understand, just as Myrcella and Tommen did.

It was the little things that gave her pleasure, in the end.

“Joff, sweetheart, make sure to be home before midnight tonight because I’ll be turning on the alarm and you won’t be able to get in otherwise.”

He had ended up staying at a friend’s place – or, more likely, coerced somebody into letting him crash, because Joffrey didn’t have friends. He had people who were scared of him, that much Sansa knew. But it was a matter of time; he couldn’t sleep outside the house every time he wanted to go out.

Or perhaps when she’d suggested to Jaime, “I really think it’ll do everybody a lot of good if we turn off the internet at 7 every night, don’t you agree, dear?”

He had called it a wonderful idea, decided it would be family tradition from now on, and Sansa had watched with a hint of a smirk playing at the corner of her lips as Joffrey protested in vain, threw a tantrum, slammed his bedroom door. But at the end of the day, seven o’clock had come and she had padded over to the living area and disconnected the router.

Say goodbye to your sick late-night porn, fucker.

And let’s not forget her crowning achievement so far: “Sansa is doing so much for all of us, Joffrey, the least you can do is run some errands for her.”

“I’m not her fucking call boy, dad!” he had screamed in protest, kicking a chair over angrily.

Sansa had gasped in outrage, holding her hand to her chest and jumping at the display of violence.

Oh, how Jaime adored protecting her.

“If you ever so much as slam a door ever again, I’m going to make certain you live to regret it,” he’d threatened through gritted teeth, holding Joffrey by the elbow. “Am I understood?”

She’d been hoping for him to slam the door anyway; he had always been so spoiled. She’d been denied the pleasure of Jaime’s wrath, however, when Joffrey had left the house instead.

“I do worry about him,” she sighed, wrapping her arms around her husband’s waist and tucking her face into his broad chest. “But I really believe he’ll grow out of this behaviour.”

Jaime kissed the top of her head. “Thank you for caring so much about our family, Sansa. I don’t know how I would do this without you.”

Joffrey came home later that day, tossing the groceries onto a table while Sansa watched from the upstairs balcony, her hands on the railings. He looked up at her and they held each other’s gaze for a moment, until she smiled, an empty smile, one full of victory. “Good night, Joffrey,” she said to him, sweetly. “Your dad and I will want to talk to you tomorrow.”

It was all the sweeter when he merely seethed in silence until she reached the door to the master bedroom. “Don’t forget your prayers.”

[sansashcund]

so im gonna do a few more jonsa kids along with some jaime x brienne kids and im debating between arya x gendry kids and arya x jaqen kids any other next gen requests? or anything like that?

[sansashcund]

Named for the flower the Jon’s mother loved and the sigil of the girl who became one of Sansa’s dearest friends, Rose Stark was the second born child and with a son already crawling around, some felt that this next generation of Starks would be like the last, even if the girl did not have her mother’s auburn hair. This assumption, was quickly proven wrong.

Bran took a keen interest in his niece from the start, feeling not only her gift for warging, but Greensight as well. The two would spend hours in the Godswood, mostly in total silence, with Rose’s direwolf, Lyana, at their feet. They flew through trees, ran in snow, swam in rivers, and with each out of body excursion, Rose became more...well, More.

When your aunt is the fierce and fearsome Arya Stark, you do not escape weapon training, even if you do have extraordinary gifts. While Rose was good enough with a blade, her talents were best suited for the arrow (Rose will never forget the looks on her aunt’s face when she got her first bullseye). But naturally, she is strongest when inhabiting Lyana, and the bond between them is so complete, that everyone is wary of the direwolf, not knowing if it is only Lyana, or if the She Wolf of Winterfell is lurking beneath all of that fur.

Rowan Blanchard, Grace Phipps, and Eva Green as Rose Stark

( @jonsasnow​ )

[sansashcund]

On the night Eddard Stark, Second of his Name, Prince of the North, was born, Winterfell rang with the howling of wolves. Even Ghost, who had been standing guard outside the door, joined in, almost drowning out Sansa’s own howls. When the boy was born his crying joined the cacophony, making it one of the loudest nights in Winterfell’s long, long history.

Next in line to the Throne of Winter, Little Ed as he was known was reared the way a king for the North should be; the lives of your people come before your own, your family will always be your shield, and do not fear winter, for to fear it is like fearing a sunrise. Ed would later add something else to that roster: the cold can be your friend, if you let it.

As the boy grew up, he was referred to less as Little Ed and more as Cunning Ed, Patient Ed, Canny Ed (and, sometimes, Ed the Uncanny). Some fear that he had more than a touch of the fabled Wolf Blood, like Brandon Stark, as well as more than a little Targaryen madness. But all know that whatever lurks beneath his skin (or whatever skin he may lurk under), the North is there too, singing in his bones, the cold feeling like an embrace from his mother.

Finn Wolfhard, Richard Harmon, and Cillian Murphy as Eddard Stark II

( @jonsasnow​ )

[ashara-deactivated20171021]

Knights are sworn to defend the weak, protect women, and fight for the right, but none of them did a thing. Only Ser Dontos had tried to help, and he was no longer a knight, no more than the Imp was, nor the Hound … the Hound hated knights …  I hate them too, Sansa thought. 

[princess-in-a-tower]

Clues about Jon Snow’s fate hidden in the prologue of AGOT

We all know that GRRM has filled ASOIAF with symbolism and foreshadowing of things that will happen in the books to come. Robb’s death, Cat’s death, Theon’s transformation into Reek, Ned’s death and Bran’s transformation into a greenseer and skinchanger were all foreshadowed in Bran I AGOT, Arya I AGOT, Bran I AGOT, Eddard I AGOT and Bran II AGOT respectively for example, if one has the eyes to see it.

What really shook me though was the realization that Jon’s death in ADWD has been foreshadowed in the prologue of AGOT through the recounting of the events that led to Ser Waymar Royce’s death.

In the prologue, we have three men of the Night’s Watch on a ranging beyond the Wall. Their commander is a young man named Ser Waymar Royce who was described in the following manner:

He was a handsome youth of eighteen, grey-eyed and graceful and slender as a knife.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

As we can see, Jon Snow’s description, which came in the first chapter of AGOT, is identical to that of Ser Waymar’s:

Jon’s eyes were a grey so dark they seemed almost black, but there was little they did not see. He was of an age with Robb, but they did not look alike. Jon was slender where Robb was muscular, dark where Robb was fair, graceful and quick where his half brother was strong and fast.

A Game of Thrones – Bran I

The other two men who accompanied ser Waymar were Gared and Will. Gared was a seasoned ranger, who has been in the Night’s Watch for 40 years and Will was a young poacher sent to the Wall for his crime.

Will’s description was the following:

Will had been a hunter before he joined the Night’s Watch. […] No one could move through the woods as silent as Will, and it had not taken the black brothers long to discover his talent.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

And when Gared spoke about himself he gave us the following information:

“I’ve had the cold in me too, lordling.”

A Game of Thrones – Prologue

By the end of ADWD Jon Snow has been left with only two protectors. One of them is Ghost, his direwolf, who is always described as a silent hunter:

Ghost bounded toward the trees, slipped between two white-cloaked pines, and vanished in a cloud of snow. He wants to hunt, but what? Jon did not fear for the direwolf so much as for any wildlings he might encounter. A white wolf in a white wood, silent as a shadow.

A Dance with Dragons - Jon VII

Jon Snow’s other protector is Lady Melisandre of Asshai, who, right before glimpsing Jon Snow’s death in the flames, claimed that:

The fire was inside her.

A Dance with Dragons - Melisandre I

Now let’s get back to the prologue and the three rangers.

When they reached their destination, Gared warned Waymar Royce of a danger Will could feel as well, yet their young commander could not sense or see:

“There’s something wrong here,” Gared muttered.

The young knight gave him a disdainful smile. “Is there?”

“Can’t you feel it?” Gared asked. “Listen to the darkness.”

Will could feel it. Four years in the Night’s Watch, and he had never been so afraid. What was it?

“Wind. Trees rustling. A wolf. Which sound is it that unmans you so, Gared?”

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

In ADWD, Lady Melisandre gives Jon Snow a very similar warning:

Do not refuse my friendship, Jon. I have seen you in the storm, hard-pressed, with enemies on every side. You have so many enemies. Shall I tell you their names?”

“I know their names.”

“Do not be so certain.” The ruby at Melisandre’s throat gleamed red. “It is not the foes who curse you to your face that you must fear, but those who smile when you are looking and sharpen their knives when you turn your back. You would do well to keep your wolf close beside you. Ice, I see, and daggers in the dark. Blood frozen red and hard, and naked steel. It was very cold.”

“It is always cold on the Wall.”

“You think so?”

“I know so, my lady.”

“Then you know nothing, Jon Snow,” she whispered.

A Dance with Dragons - Jon I

Waymar’s and Jon’s reaction to the warning is identical. They deny the danger exists and proceed as before, ignoring the advice.

“That’d be sweet, m’lord,” said Fulk the Flea, “but your wolf’s in no mood for company today.”

Mully agreed. “He tried to take a bite o’ me, he did.”

“Ghost?” Jon was shocked. “Unless your lordship has some other white wolf, aye. I never seen him like this, m’lord. All wild-like, I mean.”

He was not wrong, as Jon discovered for himself when he slipped inside the doors. The big white direwolf would not lie still. He paced from one end of the armory to the other, past the cold forge and back again. “Easy, Ghost,” Jon called. “Down. Sit, Ghost. Down.” Yet when he made to touch him, the wolf bristled and bared his teeth. It’s that bloody boar. Even in here, Ghost can smell his stink.

A Dance with Dragons - Jon XIII

Ghost, like Will in the prologue, could feel that something was wrong as well. He could feel the threat to Jon.

Back in the Prologue of AGOT, we see Ser Waymar Royce leave Gared behind and continue ahead with Will, in order to find the dead wildlings. When they get there though the corpses are gone, so Royce orders Will up a tree to search for them.

Only when Will had climbed a fair distance did Ser Waymar feel that something was wrong:

Down below, the lordling called out suddenly, “Who goes there?” Will heard uncertainty in the challenge. He stopped climbing; he listened; he watched. […]

Will opened his mouth to call down a warning, and the words seemed to freeze in his throat.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

As we saw above, Jon trapped Ghost similarly when he locked him in his room, rendering the direwolf powerless to help him. Also, Ghost is a “mute”. He never makes a sound, so he couldn’t howl in warning, just like Will couldn’t cry out to Waymar.

When the Other emerges from the woods, Will notes that:

It was very cold.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

Note that this line exists only in two places in the books. One is in the Prologue of AGOT, right before Ser Waymar Royce’s death. The other is in Jon I ADWD, as presented above, while Lady Melisandre describes to Jon his coming death.

After that, in the Prologue of AGOT, Ser Waymar Royce proceeds to fight with the Other, while Will notices more White Walkers pour into the clearing:

They emerged silently from the shadows, twins to the first. Three of them… four… five… Ser Waymar may have felt the cold that came with them, but he never saw them, never heard them.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

When the Other’s sword cuts Ser Waymar:

Blood welled between the rings. It steamed in the cold, and the droplets seemed red as fire where they touched the snow.

A Game of Thrones – Prologue

And then, when Ser Waymar’s sword failed him, the following happened:

A scream echoed through the forest night, and the longsword shivered into a hundred brittle pieces, the shards scattering like a rain of needles. Royce went to his knees, shrieking, and covered his eyes. Blood welled between his fingers.

The watchers moved forward together, as if some signal had been given. Swords rose and fell, all in a deathly silence. It was cold butchery. The pale blades sliced through ringmail as if it were silk. […]

Royce’s body lay face down in the snow, one arm outflung. The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places. Lying dead like that, you saw how young he was. A boy.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

Now let us examine Jon’s death in ADWD:

When Wick Whittlestick slashed at his throat, the word turned into a grunt. Jon twisted from the knife, just enough so it barely grazed his skin. He cut me. When he put his hand to the side of his neck, blood welled between his fingers. “Why?”

“For the Watch.” Wick slashed at him again. This time Jon caught his wrist and bent his arm back until he dropped the dagger. The gangling steward backed away, his hands upraised as if to say, Not me, it was not me. Men were screaming. Jon reached for Longclaw, but his fingers had grown stiff and clumsy. Somehow he could not seem to get the sword free of its scabbard.

Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. “For the Watch.” He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it.

Jon fell to his knees. He found the dagger’s hilt and wrenched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. “Ghost,” he whispered. Pain washed over him. Stick them with the pointy end.

When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold …

A Dance with Dragons - Jon XIII

The two men’s deaths are eerily similar, to the point where the exact same phrases are being used to describe them. But it’s not only the wording. It’s also the whole sequence of events that is identical.

Both have a silent companion and a sage mentor who were not there to help them as they faced death. Both dismissed the advice of the mentor and ignored the instinct of their silent companion. Both could not feel the danger until it was too late. Both got slashed at by their first opponent. Both of their swords failed them. Both fell to their knees. Both had the “watchers” stab them. Both ended up face-down on the snow. Both were mere boys…

But all this has already happened, so why does it even matter?

Well, it matters because the prologue of AGOT does not stop at Waymar’s death, but continues past it. And since there are no coincidences of that scale in ASOIAF, I believe the events that followed Waymar’s death are a foreshadowing of what happened/will happen after Jon’s death.

Jon states that he never felt the fourth knife, only the cold, but was there a fourth knife? The number of “knives” has been an object of speculation many years now in the fandom, but I believe Waymar’s death can shed some light to the matter. Both Jon and Waymar got slashed at by their first opponent, but then Jon felt only two stabs, while Waymar Royce got significantly more once he fell. Will counts the first five “watchers” to emerge from the woods and then stops, but later he tells us that Waymar’s cloak had a dozen slashes.

His counting could have been inaccurate, since it was night and he was frightened out of his mind, but I believe we can safely assume the number was somewhere close to twelve.

Since Jon and Waymar’s deaths have been so similar thus far, I believe that, in TWOW, we’ll find out Jon had been stabbed multiple times as well after he fell. I have two theories regarding the number of people who participated in the mutiny and their identities, but they are both highly speculative and, sadly, I am no Sherlock Holmes, so I decided it was best to leave them out.

Moving on, another prominent thing that happened in the prologue of AGOT was Waymar losing his left eye during the swordfight with the Other, when his sword shattered.

Will rose. Ser Waymar Royce stood over him.

His fine clothes were a tatter, his face a ruin. A shard from his sword transfixed the blind white pupil of his left eye.

The right eye was open. The pupil burned blue. It saw.

The broken sword fell from nerveless fingers. Will closed his eyes to pray. Long, elegant hands brushed his cheek, then tightened around his throat. They were gloved in the finest moleskin and sticky with blood, yet the touch was icy cold.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

Nothing like that happened to Jon during the mutiny, but it is probably something that we’ll see later on, possibly as late as in the last book… Who knows? Maybe it will even happen in a similar manner. There is another meta about Jon losing an eye here, with more textual evidence to support this theory.

The next piece of foreshadowing is Waymar Royce’s “resurrection” as a wight shortly after his death north of the Wall. Since Jon perished south of the Wall instead, I believe he too will be resurrected, but as a living person. And since “ice magic” was used to resurrect Waymar Royce, I believe “fire magic” will be used to resurrect Jon Snow for things to stay balanced.

This time though the resurrection will be different than the other two we saw with Beric Dondarrion and Lady Stoneheart, because Jon Snow has something they had not. He is a warg.

Lady Melisandre has seen Jon warging inside Ghost right before his death in her flames:

The flames crackled softly, and in their crackling she heard the whispered name Jon Snow. His long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain. Now he was a man, now a wolf, now a man again.

A Dance with Dragons - Melisandre I

And Varamyr Sixskins described what death is like for a warg in the beginning of ADWD:

A sleeping direwolf raised his head to snarl at empty air. Before their hearts could beat again he had passed on, searching for his own, for One Eye, Sly, and Stalker, for his pack. His wolves would save him, he told himself.

That was his last thought as a man.

True death came suddenly; he felt a shock of cold, as if he had been plunged into the icy waters of a frozen lake. Then he found himself rushing over moonlit snows with his packmates close behind him. Half the world was dark. One Eye, he knew. He bayed, and Sly and Stalker gave echo.

A Dance with Dragons - Prologue

Jon’s last thought as a man was his direwolf and his pack as well, so, like Varamyr, he warged inside his wolf Ghost right before his death.

Now back to Waymar Royce and Will. When Waymar got resurrected, he brushed Will’s cheek and then he tightened his fingers around his throat.

If Will symbolizes Ghost, does this mean Jon will kill Ghost after he comes back? I find that impossible. On the other hand, it could be that Ghost will have to die in order for Jon to return to his human body.

A better explanation in my opinion though is that Will, somewhere along the line, stopped symbolizing Ghost. That moment was when he consciously decided to stay on the tree and remain silent.

“Will, where are you?” Ser Waymar called up. “Can you see anything?” He was turning in a slow circle, suddenly wary, his sword in hand. He must have felt them, as Will felt them. There was nothing to see. “Answer me! Why is it so cold?”

It was cold. Shivering, Will clung more tightly to his perch. His face pressed hard against the trunk of the sentinel. He could feel the sweet, sticky sap on his cheek.

[…]

Will had to call out. It was his duty. And his death, if he did. He shivered, and hugged the tree, and kept the silence.

A Game of Thrones - Prologue

At that moment, Will betrayed Waymar. So maybe from then on Will symbolizes the mutineers/traitors instead. If yes, then that means that the first thing Jon will do when he comes back to life will be to choke the life out of them.

Obviously, I don’t mean he will choke them with his bare hands. I meant that he will hang them.

And why would Jon hang his murderers?

First of all, because the punishment for treason/oathbreaking at the Wall is hanging:

The wildling woman Val turned to face them. “I’ve heard the queen’s men saying that the red woman means to give Mance to the fire, as soon as he is strong enough.” Jon gave her a weary look. “Mance is a deserter from the Night’s Watch. The penalty for that is death. If the Watch had taken him, he would have been hanged by now, but he’s the king’s captive, and no one knows the king’s mind but the red woman.” “I want to see him,” Val said. “I want to show him his son. He deserves that much, before you kill him.”

A Storm of Swords - Samwell IV

Secondly, beheading is reserved only for highborn lords and knights who committed treason/oathbreaking:

Your father died by the sword, but he was highborn, a King’s Hand. For you, a noose will serve.

A Storm of Swords - Jon IX

And thirdly, for those of you who think a true son of Eddard Stark would never resort to hanging, let me remind you that Robb Stark, the firstborn, trueborn son of Eddard Stark and the King in the North, hanged Karstark’s men for killing prisoners of war and beheaded only Rickard Karstark:

“Greatjon, keep Lord Karstark here till I return, and hang the other seven.”

The Greatjon lowered the spear. “Even the dead ones?”

“Yes. I will not have such fouling my lord uncle’s rivers. Let them feed the crows.”

A Storm of Swords - Catelyn III

To sum it up, the prologue of AGOT reveals the following for Jon’s fate:

He got stabbed repeatedly by his brothers after he lost consciousness.

He will be resurrected with “fire magic”.

He will hang the mutineers when he comes back to life.

He will lose an eye.

[sxpiosexualx]

Who would make a better Queen?

A lot of people come for Sansa stans but especially Jonsa shippers for wanting to see Sansa rule, even if it means only ruling the North. So let’s take a crack at who would make a better Queen, shall we?

SANSA STARK:

Cons:

Cried a lot that one time because she kept hearing news of her family’s demise while being held captive when also physically and mentally tormented, manipulated and abused all when she was only 11.

Has no knowledge of war - but that’s what military generals are for(also why Jonsa shippers support the dynamic of our ship).

Pros:

Is a Northerner, trusted by the Northern Lords and has an actual claim to Winterfell that we are reminded of; “Winterfell belongs to [Sansa],” “the blood of Winterfell,” “key to the North.”

Has spent a fair amount of her life in the South, getting accustomed to their courtesy and mannerism.

 Was trained by Septa Mordane to one day be Queen.

Learnt from some of the best political players; (i) Petyr Baelish, (ii) Margaery Tyrell, (iii) Cersei Lannister - the actual Queen, etc.

Is kind hearted and adored; (i) saves Ser Dontos’ life, (ii) calmed the maidens during the Battle of Blackwater, (iii) “If I ever become Queen… I’ll make them love me,”

Thinks long-term; (i) preparing to feed any refugees that come to Winterfell in winter, (ii) ensuring the blacksmiths/knights make changes to their armour so that it’s better suited for winter, etc.

Is currently ruling effectively given the situation.

Listens to the complaints of her people, as a good ruler should, without severing any ties or threatening to burn them.

Has knowledge of the people she would potentially be ruling.

What’s that you say? We’ve only seen her do a couple of things as acting ruler and Lady of Winterfell given how little the show featured her? Alright, let’s examine Daenerys since her entire arc has been about her quest for the Iron Throne and therefore should by now display the qualities of a good leader.

Keep reading

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**BONUS** WHO COULD BE THE YOUNGER, MORE BEAUTIFUL QUEEN, FROM CERSEI’S PROPHECY?

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My fave part is calling out Dany for having no actual knowledge of war either. Because she doesn’t. She has dragons. She rides them and says “Dracarys” from atop and thousands burn. If Dany didn’t have dragons, she would probably be a different queen, possibly have a chance of even being one who listens and learns because she doesn’t have more power as an upperhand or think she’s magically blessed. But dragons is most of the reason she is revered and feared. She struggled initially but also too much power fell too fast into her hands too early into the series. By book 1. Others had to struggle much more for it; observe leadership figures and listen to mentors; develop patience and use their wits.

The fact that Sansa has no knowledge in warfare is fine, just as Dany having no knowledge in warfare would be okay if she acknowledged it and listened to her general and discussed the pros and cons with her other advisors, estimated the damage and considered how to maximize on winning it but also limiting the collateral damage and loss of lives. Plus Dany is neither good at administration nor at warfare without her dragons and oratory skills to inspire people to follow her. She wants to change things, but she doesn’t have the patience to bring about long term changes. So what does she bring to Westeros as a monarch candidate?

While the show reduces Jon’s capability to military ability, in the books Jon is a pretty good strategist in terms of administration and warfare because he had the guidance and mentorship of Joer Mormont and Maester Aemon and even Ned’s lessons to refer back to. What he lacks is the ability to inspire loyalty because he becomes Lord Commander but treats people’s insults as he would as a bastard. Ignore them or snark back to them. In fact, in his arc he also interacts with leader figures like Mance and Stannis, who do invoke this kind of emotional inspiration to manipulate people into following them. That’s a disadvantage for a ruler (and quite literally gets him killed) but he’s good at the job of doing what needs to be done by limiting the costs. It’s possible to learn that later in the game. It’s harder to learn how to do it the opposite way around because people already follow you and you don’t have enough motivation to work towards it. His arc in ADWD contrasts Dany more the popular belief of paralleling it. Jon’s distaste for Mance’s and Stannis’ appeal to emotion, ruling by force and offering false choices approaches foreshadow the judgment with which he would see Dany’s rule in the books. Even on the show he vaguely does have issues with the way she approaches things and catches on very early on she’s impulsive and entitled - despite wanting to be good.  

Sansa’s arc is less obvious than Jon because she spends majority of her book (and show) arc observing. Observing Joffrey’s reign of terror and the effect it has on people, Cersei’s fear inducing approach on ruling, Margaery’s contrasting love inspiring approach, the players of the game (Tyrion, Varys, Littlefinger). Under Littlefinger in the Vale she gets the opportunity to deal with administration and learn how the game is played better - while disguised as Alayne Stone, Baelish’s bastard. So she doesn’t have the same privilege of getting things done because of the Stark name or her beauty because she dies her hair brown. She gets to run a household and she manages it pretty well, answering Arya’s fear for Sansa not being prepared for it and rather only for curtsying and preparing to be a trophy wife. It’s important for Sansa to spend this much time observing because she has to be stripped of privilege to finally see the larger picture and get accustomed to it. Along the way, she learns to adapt and turn those weaknesses that others perceive into her strengths. Where Jon lacks in the larger aspect of inspiring people on a larger scale, Sansa has observed Cersei and Margaery and the difference in public perception of them in King’s Landing. She means to rule through inspiring love and loyalty rather than just fear. We are yet to see that come to fruition in the books but the groundwork is there. 

The fact that this kind of power and influence over a large number of people didn’t come easy to them and still doesn’t makes them people who need keep adapting to make their outcomes more favourable. Dany’s approach is not along the same lines because she’s already a larger than life figure and has been for majority of the books and show now. Even more sadly, she has bought into her own press. People who see the failure in Dany’s rule and know it is doomed because it is not what GRRM claims to be reaching the closest possible ideal form of governance is shown through her lack of strategizing and patience. You can only be evolving in terms of details so long as you you’re early into your journey and you have to keep proving yourself and thinking about what you’d rather not think about. In terms of the books and even more so on the show, she has not shown any signs of effective rulership. Just because it looks badass doesn’t mean it can sustain a country. It’s all spectacle and grand gestures. They don’t matter if you don’t follow it up with necessary strategy and policy work.

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Reblogging for that extra addition of meta^^^ very well elaborated.