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alright so yeah hbo deancas is dean addicted to cas’ grace [breathing shakily with his teeth buried in Cas’ bleeding wrist] [nearly getting killed in fights because the prospect of getting healed by Cas is like an angler’s lure, like a fishhook under his skin] [strung out and panting and cradling his broken wrist on a motel room bed] [face buried in Cas’ coat, trying not to plead for it] [crying when the blue-white sweet-cold wash of it soothes the knives in his throat] [jerking off in the shower with his face pressed into the crook of his own arm trying to remember the exact taste]

but it’s also purgatory [rough sex in desperate silence because the Leviathan are never far behind] [Cas’ true form leaking out of his vessel because everything blurs and bleeds at the edges there] [Dean waiting for Cas to wake up after a bad fight, holding his intestines in with one hand and touching Cas’ cheek with the other] [Benny noticing the way Cas sometimes has a thousand eyes and sometimes just two but all of them are always tracking Dean]

and it’s also endverse [Cas almost overdosing in his shitty cabin in Chitaqua when Dean goes missing for a week] [Dean fucking him against a wall after a supply run ambush that almost gets them both killed] [sitting on a rickety porch together smoking pot and watching stars fall out of the sky] [in bed whispering tender things to each other the night before they go after Lucifer]

and it’s also demon Dean [holding the First Blade against Cas’ throat as Cas carefully pushes into him] [leaning into the touch of Cas’ hand on his face and waiting to see if Cas is going to smite him] [hunting down angels and bringing Cas their grace] [Cas rotting inside out from the stolen grace but unable to stop taking it because he knows he’s the only thing keeping Dean tethered to humanity]

and it’s also human Cas [soothed out of his night terrors by Dean’s voice in his ear] [unnerved that he can’t tell Dean’s alive just by sensing his soul from across the room] [constantly wrapping a hand around Dean’s throat because he needs to feel Dean’s pulse to reassure himself] [fascinated by the taste of Dean, the way he can no longer discern every individual molecule of it]

and it’s also just the way they can be used against each other [Naomi lobotomizing Cas and making Dean watch] [Cas driven mad the whole time Michael has Dean, because even while possessed Dean’s screams keep bleeding into prayer] [Dean offering himself to the Leviathan instead if they’ll just let Cas go] [Zachariah branding his own handprint onto Dean again and again until Cas drops his weapon] [Amara carving Cas apart with her bare hands trying to find what he has to offer Dean that she doesn’t] [Ishim running his hand through Dean’s hair wondering aloud what an angel could possibly see in a cockroach] [Lucifer taunting Dean by threatening to make Cas chew out his own tongue and eat it]

but mostly it’s just the way they look at each other [bleeding and burned under the white-gold light of Heaven’s torture chambers] [through the sulfur fumes and smoke for the first time in Hell] [by lamplight in the bunker over glasses of scotch] [inches away from each other, Dean speaking softly in halting Enochian while Cas presses a kiss to his palm] [furious and mid-fight and in love under neon lights in back alleys] [at sunrise on the edges of cliffs in the middle of nowhere] [scanning each other for injuries by the bleak washed-out glare of Purgatory] [across the seat of the Impala with the rain coming down in torrents and the lights of the interstate strobing across their interlaced fingers and a Zeppelin song swelling to an aching crescendo in the background]

[charliethechocolateeater]

supernatural said what if you met god and he was a loser who writes explicit rpf about you

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I don’t serve heaven I don’t serve man I serve cunt

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nine year old dean was in a cold motel room wishing for a rugged and cool cowboy to come help him. and then at 29 a rugged and cool man walked in to his life, guns ablazing.

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We’re the Monsters Under Our Own Beds | Part One

monstrous!team free will 1.0, feat.

B O Y K I N G; sam is part demon and part human and it’s the human part that makes him unpredictable, that keeps everyone on edge. he’s telekinetic, there’s one horn that has grown out of his head kind of crooked. the other one broke and now its just a jagged defense mechanism. his eyes shift black when he argues with Dean and things start to boil and melt when he’s mad. he always casts a long shadow no matter where the sun is in the sky.

B L U N T I N S T R U M E N T; dean’s something with fangs and claws, an othering and intangible creature that haunts itself. the darkness is a shroud he hides in. he looks in the mirror and he sees double, his irises are turning the color of rust, and he keeps coughing up blood and black liquid. his monstrosity is eating him whole and what it spits back out when he’s just the bones will be bitter and brutal.

A N G E L / K I L L E R; castiel is the angel that wasn’t made right. he’s coming apart at the seams. there’s a bottle of angel grace that hangs around his neck but it’s not his. it belongs to the same host as the blood staining his jacket. he’s gentle though, despite the atrocities he commits, to the monster he’s lost himself to. so long as cas wakes up breathing in the same bed as Dean, he doesn’t care how patched up his true image becomes. how his thousand eyes that used to be cold and clear are now muddied with terror and love and the feathers in his many wings are charred and sticky from wounds that won’t heal.

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HOLY SHIT.

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yooo this is so hbo spn

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The thing you have to understand is that Jack's character revolves around the struggle for autonomy just as much as it does nature vs nurture. From the very beginning, they’re blatantly dehumanized and seen as subhuman, which you can first see with Asmodeus’ demons referring to them as “The Jack,” and even more evidently with the use of animal imagery by other characters to describe him; both Asmodeus and Bobby refer to Jack as a “half-breed,” and Hallucifer outright says, “They don’t even want you for a pet anymore,”brutally diminishing his place as the Winchesters' surrogate son and reinforcing the idea that he was only adopted to be used as a weapon. Beyond that, he is also largely treated as an extension of Lucifer by the people around him, never fully being seen as an independent person, or as someone capable of being independent from their lineage.

In Absence, Bobby says “If his human side is gone, you know what’s left—Lucifer,” and the following argument between Sam, Dean and Cas centers on that same idea that Jack’s supposed turn to the dark side was inevitable, that this was his innate nature triumphing over their best attempts to nurture goodness, and seemingly implies that they didn’t believe Jack himself had a choice in the matter. This is echoed in Moriah through Jack telling Dean that “[he] was right all along, [he] is a monster," in a tone which very clearly indicates that he is just as unhappy with this outcome as his family is, because he wanted to be good just as badly as they wanted him to be good.

This blatant disregard for Jack’s autonomy and free will is made significantly worse in the fact that Jack is never allowed to be truly angry about any of it; he is never allowed to have a reaction that doesn’t basically enable the people around him or somehow justify their actions on the basis of necessity. Sam and Dean manipulated him into a coffin using the image of his own dead mother to sweeten their words (and while they are rightfully compared to Duma by Cas, the comparison is never brought to any sort of fruition). Their actions are still only ever framed as merely regrettable, and Dean’s intention to kill Jack is treated as a necessary evil prior to Chuck’s big reveal, with no condemnation for it later on in S15. In The Last Holiday, when Mrs. Butters accuses him of being a bloodthirsty monster and plans to murder him, he says “It’s fine, really.” In Unhuman Nature, his reaction to Rowena blatantly saying the world would be better off with him dead is “You might be right.”

Now this is largely presented as an empathetic response, seeing as empathy itself is a core part of Jack’s character and has been since 13x01; in the holding cell with Sam, he apologizes for the outburst that threw Sheriff Barker against the wall, and in 13x03 there are clear parallels drawn between Kelly and Mary and their sons’ respective losses, signifying that his plan to rescue her comes from an empathization of that shared loss. Jack even says so himself in Destiny’s Child after having his soul restored: “I mean, my mother died, too. Why couldn’t I understand?” His entire soulless arc was rooted in him losing his sense of empathy, and so the takeaway from that is that that strong sense of empathy is what makes Jack, Jack. However, this core part of their character is often written and portrayed in a way that, to put it bluntly, makes them seem like a total doormat. Jack prides himself on his ability to help others, like trying to give closure to Kelly's parents, or creating shadow puppets for the Apocalypse World children to make them happy, but there is little to no concern given to his own livelihood, both in character and in the narrative. All of Jack’s personal struggles are somehow twisted to center around how it will affect others around him, rather than pay any mind to his own experience and feelings; and the feelings we do see are only used as an outward progression, rather than a personal one.

Such is the case with his Apocalypse World PTSD consisting exclusively of a vacant stare towards the end of Exodus and a slightly stronger penchant for killing, or Unhuman Nature, when they are literally dying of a total organ failure and cellular-level collapse, and yet the most insight we are ever given into how they feel about their death is, “I lived a good, long two years. Life is about small, intimate moments with your loved ones, and I’m going to miss having those with you. But please, don’t be sad. Maybe it’s for the best that I’m dying young, because I still might be evil somehow.” Even the death of Mary—the woman paralleled to his own mother and considered by him to be his surrogate mother—is largely only centered on how it will affect Sam and Dean and their relationship to Jack. His spiral into a literal psychotic episode (complete with auditory and visual hallucinations) is kickstarted by the overwhelming grief and guilt killing Mary caused him, but rather than explore it through the lens of him killing someone he deeply loves or as his own personal loss just as much as Sam and Dean’s, we are given nothing but vague flashbacks to build on their relationship. The half year he spent in Apocalypse World, leading a rebellion and fighting an army alongside of her, is almost forgotten. The way Jack's sense of empathy is often portrayed can be surmised by, ‘he’s sad because his family is sad,’ and all of the development which should push him forward, instead serves as development for Sam and Dean and Cas to push their narrative forward.

Now, there is a moment where Jack does exert his full autonomy and free will, and I believe that to be his brutal murder of Nick in Game Night. Throughout all of S14, Nick’s relationship with Jack is very clearly an uneasy one—understandably so, seeing as Nick is literally the physical embodiment of Jack’s most deeply rooted trauma. Jack is physically unable to stand being around Nick without seeing Lucifer—without seeing the abuse he faced—without seeing the figure that had cast a dark shadow over him since he was born, and the only figure in his life besides Michael that he has ever truly, genuinely hated. Hate is a strong word, and an even stronger feeling, and it’s one that Jack actively tries to repress throughout their life in an attempt to emulate the nurture of their chosen family and be “good,” because allowing that hate and the natural anger inherited from Lucifer to show not only leads to him causing harm (i.e., nearly strangling Maggie's presumed killer), but is also evidence that he is like his father in some capacity. His repression is rooted in personal fear and empathy for the people who have suffered at Lucifer’s hands (i.e., his immediate surrogate family), so when Jack burns his soul and sense of empathy away, he no longer feels the need to repress himself for the sake of others.

He tells Donatello that "[he] just needs time and space to figure everything out, but everywhere [he] goes, someone's always looking over [his] shoulder," acknowledging the way he's been treated by the others and finally expressing his disdain for it by bluntly telling Mary that "it's annoying." All of this is used to indicate to us that his soul is gone; that something is wrong; that this is not "our" Jack; we are explicitly being told by the narrative that Jack's extertion of autonomy through blunt, unapolagetic boundary-setting is abnormal. This condemning narrative is further pushed when they kill Nick in an excruciating and sickening manner: breaking every bone in his body and then burning him from the inside out. In the Game Night script, this action is described as cathartic for Jack; it's relieving, it's freeing, it feels good to them. And why shouldn't it? As previously stated, Nick is the embodiment of Jack's trauma and abuse, as well as the attempted resurrector of said abuser. His usage of Jack's blood to raise Lucifer can stand to represents Jack's inherent nature and connection with Lucifer.

Ergo, by killing him, Jack is symbolically rejecting their nature and severing their connection with Lucifer in the most finite way they can think of. Beyond that, Jack is lashing back at their abuser; he is effectively punching up and it is effectively being framed by the narrative as a punch down. Sam and Dean are allowed to stand up to John, to fight with him, to hate him, and to condemn his treatment of them. Likewise, Castiel and the other angels are allowed to condemn Chuck for abandoning and neglecting them, and even as The Writer, Chuck allows himself to be condemned. He allows Sam and Dean and Cas to have their autonomy, their narrative-break, be validated; be a good thing. But every time Jack attempts to exert his autonomy and make decisions for himself, be it healing Cas or trying to make friends or rightfully lashing back at his abuser, it’s always narratively condemned. It's "dangerous" and "risky" and ultimately the wrong choice that he should never make again. Jack is narratively not allowed to act in ways that personally benefit him without it being framed as concerning and abnormal and wrong. Supernatural is no stranger to meta in any way. Chuck and Becky are literally stand-ins for the audience and the show runners, Chuck’s entire scheme is meta, etc, etc.

The theme of free will is arguably the second strongest theme throughout the entire show next to family. It’s why our Sam and Dean are Chuck’s favorites. It’s why he wants their story to keep going continuously. It’s what makes them, Them. And it’s very evident that the writers seem to hold Jack in the same regards as Asmodeus and Lucifer and Michael; he’s not a person with free will and autonomy, but a tool, a functionality; a literal plot device. Only six episodes into his debut season, Jack is completely written out under the guise of gaining control of his powers in a safe place, and subsequently only returning by the time his powers are needed to progress the plot. We are never shown anything from his time away; we never see him on his own, or how he comes to control his powers. Similarly, we don’t see much of his time in Apocalypse World, either. We don't fully see how his relationship with Mary builds to its' established mother/son dynamic or how he rises to become a well-respected rebellion army leader. We just see him explode a few angels, save Mary from Kevin's bomb, and Bobby offhandedly mentioning in Absence that he "fought with the kid." The vast majority of his development and progression is given to us in a Tell-Don’t-Show manner, effectively rendering it as a bunchnof null loose ends that nobody cares to tie up, and leaving both Jack and the audience with no closure for anything. Reconciling with Mary, the woman they considered a second mother and lead an army with? Just a kiss-and-make-up.

What about Cas? Jack was adamant that Cas stop defending him, so much so that he flung him out of the way of his impending fate, but once they’re able to feel anger again, he never expresses it again. Never expresses anger and confusion at Cas for being so unconditional. And what about his grandparents? They never learn the truth about him or Kelly. They never learn that their precious grandson is standing right in front of them, manically asking to talk about their daughter and blazing yellow eyes. Jack Sr. has no idea he’s even a Sr. Or what about Kelly? Kelly, the woman who was so thoroughly convinced of her son’s goodness that she felt he was worth dying for. How would she react to all the horrible things he did when he was soulless? How her visions of paradise were almost a lie? How she almost died for nothing because in the end, her son was a monster, and he said it out loud while waiting to be shot in the head so he couldn’t hurt anyone else?

Jack’s struggle for autonomy is the writers’ neglect being woven into the narrative. He can never act in a way that serves himself, only the plot and the other characters; sure, he can express the desire to be unspecial, to be a hunter, to be considered human, but it will not come to fruition nor will it be framed as something he should want. He is never allowed to live or exist or feel for themself, to be selfish, to place themself before others for once. They must make constant sacrifices and put others’ feelings before his and be complacent in their mistreatment just because. And that’s why his ending—that’s why his entire S15 arc—is just so deeply wrong. He never got to live a full good life like he wanted, and practically right after losing that life when he did have it, he’s swiftly taken away again and made into GOD. Again, SPN is known for being meta. This could have been a perfect twist. Chuck, The Writer, does not see Jack as an autonomous person or as his grandson. He sees Jack as a weapon, a tool, a vessel (wink wink), a literal plot device nonperson, that he can use to create more hurdles for Sam and Dean to jump over via killing Mary. Jack is forever trapped within the narrative and all of his free will was, in fact, illusory.

*edit: gonna tag @shallowseeker for this cuz im insane and need to talk about someone with it

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that means no wincest, winkline, michifer or anything else “proship”

cant believe i have to announce this bullshit.

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if jack was in the golden era seasons i think they’d be like. inexplicably bleeding stigmata scars in church and angel radio migraines/nosebleeds because there are so many voices telling him all at once that he doesn’t belong there that they were born fallen so he can never rise and how dare he stain these sacred floors with that disgusting hybrid blood of his, the red venom of Lucifer that flows in his veins

and he doesn’t need to sleep very often so most nights he stays up with dean and they get food at late diners and channel surf on the motel tv and smoke weed by the pool and dean tells him all about John and hunting and the journal and simple human things that he will come to value more than life itself.

they would collect weird religious paraphernalia like random button-pins to wear on his awful clunky jackets and Mormon pamphlets to fold into origami and sarcastic gimmick shirts that say things like “Jesus is my homeboy” or “I hate the antichrist” because he almost has his fathers crude sense of humor. and sometimes if he’s upset enough he singes the edge of Bible pages or flips crosses or shatters cathedral glass and there’s always a weird static charge in the air around him like the beginning a thunderstorm and if you look very faintly his eyes flicker and crackle like a lightning strike

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FUCKING LOVE THIS GO LIKE AND REBLOG PLS

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HBO Supernatural discourse is dead. Let's start "what if Supernatural had been on classic Nickelodeon?" discourse

Every time Dean says gank he gets slimed

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oh.

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how to use religious iconography and symbolism in a godforsaken, cunt serving, and incredibly transgender way

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me making hbo spn

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i wish dean smoked cigarettes

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had this in the drafts for a LONGGG ASS TIME:,,,

i just stayed up all night thinking about trans dean!!! (hbo dean) and wrote an approximate 5 page essay of my thoughts!!! (written by a transmasc)

(just on how dean is trans while keeping majority of the plot is the same, but also better than canon..)

Starting at the beginning. born Deanna. Dean always wanted to present more masculine. as a little kid always wanted to play with the boys stuff and dress in daddys clothes not mommys. in the first scene of him holding baby Sammy, it’s very much possible that he could still look pretty much the same considering the popularity of bowlcuts in young kids especially amongst little girls at that time. After Marys death, john never knew how to shop for girls clothing, so Dean just got the most basic looking clothes, already making him slide into that masculine nature. He probably grew out his hair after Mary died for a while (because of johns inability to take care of his kids and give them regular haircuts), until lets say 6?? when Dean figured out how to use scissors on his hair. John is unfazed, like as long as it doesn’t get in the way, and monsters cant grab deans hair(idk, things like that)

Bobby is the first to figure out Dean is trans. obviously. he pays more attention to the kids than john does. Dean just acts like a boy, thinks he’s a boy, though still being technically a girl. He’s complained before to Bobby about wanting to be a boy and hates being seen as/called a “dyke” or a “tomboy” by classmates and teachers. Dean doesnt think anything is wrong with expressing those emotions, still being just a young kid.

Around 8?9? Dean end up just straight up telling john he thinks he’s actually a boy and john couldnt care less tbh, trans men were nearly invisible to society at that time, especially to someone like john who probably grew up under a rock about those things more than anyone. John probably just somehow believed what dean said.. but in a twisted fucked up way… In Johns head Dean is now “a boy with feminine parts, and that is not right, you cant be a man and feminine.” (something like that) So John double time forces hyper masculinity upon dean much too early, as a compensation for anything possibly non-masculine about dean. Trans men are not a concept in johns mind and he doesnt care at all what it could mean other than Dean just being fucked up. This ideology weighs heavily into Dean’s trauma and daddy issues. Especially when john has angry drunk outbursts of ridiculing Dean for the way he is, doing things like deadnaming and misgendering Dean on purpose.

John obviously didnt know or care about anything gender confirming beyond, “I have a son, I buy boy clothes, it’s easier in so many ways having two sons now.” Bobby was the one who fully supported and understood dean and tried to do everything he could to understand deans situation and help him with the transition.

also. no one really knew of john as a hunter at the start. so its easy for john to switch to saying he has two sons, without causing problems.

Puberty for Dean would fall around 1990/91. By that time hormone blockers were already a thing available for kids who had puberty too early, [BUT amongst my research on hormone blockers for trans people I couldn’t find when That became a common practice, and when or where it became easy(ish) to get such treatment without being denied or hatecrimed in some way...] (will have to do more research on some subjects, I still have several books and articles I need to go through) However, I do know testosterone was actually an accessible thing around the 90s for trans men(ofc i still cant find what the age is for being aproved to start hrt unfortunately).

But, I believe, thanks to Bobby’s cunning schemes, he can get what Dean wants/needs in an easy way (ex; lying about Dean’s age or gender[saying he’s intersex or a male with a hormone deficiency], stollen medical prescription forms, etc)

So maybe, most of Deans life he is stealth to most, (even if he doesnt get testosterone until later in life, there are multiple accounts of trans men more than fooling a vast majority of people into thinking theyre cis, even when literally having sex with women believe it or not(ex; Brandon Teena/Boys Don’t Cry film, a popular 50s gospel singer i forgot the name of, much more) Dean is definitely super crafty in canon so he is always finding ways to pass.

Sam knowing Dean is trans makes sense(even if he doesnt have a word for it at first) considering how close they are as siblings. And I think funnily enough he might not even know Dean is “trans” until he attends a gsa class in college(bonus: Sam is he/she/they nonbinary in my hc and they find out that too)

[Side note, because of genes*, it’s very possible for an afab in the winchester family to be up to 5’10(lets say dean is 5’9 though). He wears those 1 1/2 inch heeled boots he does in canon (funny how he’s canonically trans coded sm), with shoe inserts on top of that and, boom. easily 5’11-6’0. yet, he is still more than four inches shorter than his younger brother.(idk i think sam should chill like maybe he can just be 6’2or3 in hbo, bc *john is still 6’1or2, and mary’s family also has tall men*)]

Moving on. According to the timeline dean discovering girls (and boys) happens next at 12/13 (pls help i’m on the aro spec and dk the normal age you get crushes)

but since we already know john is even more strict about Dean’s masculinity than he would be with someone whos amab (notice john canonically is less forcing of masculinity upon sam... i wonder why....) Well in saying that, here comes the intense homophobia. Dean cannot like men. “thats for girls. and Dean said hes actually a man, and I cant let dean be feminine in any way” or some bullshit like that.

Somewhere in the future, before Dean turns 17, john is “worried” about deans possible attraction to men. Sends him on the nun hunt by himself. It’s a big step especially for Dean being afab and john still seeing him as weak and feminine despite believing Dean is actually a dude. (I think this is also the same reason, canonically, sam is so surprised that at 26 dean is going on his own hunts??)

But like- so if the last time Sam saw Dean, Dean was 22 and still an irresponsible youth, still new to the freedom of things that came at 21 and what not(even if dean has been drinking from a young age) and considering johns treatment of Dean, and Deans dependency on johns toxic grasp on him, Sam could still be surprised dean is on his own now[even if dean went on his own at 17, but sam wouldnt know that,, and plus it was just so john could teach him a lesson] So maybe john also let Dean go on his own at 23(before then dean always went with another person) and because he would soon see Dean and his hunting partner of the time, Lee, getting along “too well” he would just fr gaslight dean to just go on his own from then... (something like that)

Focusing back on Dean’s transition, I actually have no idea when dean would get top surgery bc of the busyness of a hunters life. but im thinking it’s a top priority of Deans for a while because of the discomfort of not being able to wear a binder when hunting, only a sports bra, which depending, could still be very uncomfortable for him dysphoria wise. (i know the struggle) Again, Bobby probably one to help with the whole process of payment, recovery and scheduling a good time.

When dean finally gets his top surgery it is when he is with Cassie. (theyre literally both t4t bi4bi) Dean by luck finds a nice girl at a queer bar and settles down with her and decides its time to chop the flesh bags and Cassie helps him in his recovery. (of course i think dean still goes hunting in secret and messed up the healing process and ends up with sorta messed up scars)

Now lisa well... (actually I think canon dean dated her before cassie, but she was only introduced later so-) okay Lisa lowkey gives me transphobe vibes-.. I wonder if it could be that even after they hook up she still isnt even aware that dean is trans, she still finds out someway though. (rip ben actually being from a random biker in this au, bc canon he is 100% deans kid) When Dean sees her again, they run into eachother and catch up despite lisa still being transphobic. She’s fine with just talking but keeping distance. Ben, already liking dean like a father figure, doesn’t understand why lisa dislikes him, even after she explains how Dean is trans, like most kids at that age it’s simple, if he looks and acts like a boy, he is a boy. Kids dont fucking know a thing about body parts or genders... Ben with that ideology, ultimately opens Lisas eyes on trans people and is now okay with Dean.

The only next big plot point I can think of?? is..

Cas raising Dean from hell. While recreating Dean, he sees Deans entire being through Deans perspective. and how Dean is meant to be rather than how he was born. In my mind it makes sense to cas as angel, by seeing Dean’s soul, his memories, everything that makes Dean, well.. Dean, that he is indeed a man. Also because angels have no construct of gender(besides how humans are born) and being genderless in the first place, Cas doesnt associate body parts with genders. He just knows dean is a man and is like “well if hes a human man he must have these parts i guess?”, Deans views of himself blurring his previous form, everything on how dean looks is slightly masculinized. Cas doesnt even think about how come these scars on deans chest are significant and important to him, at any point in the future he could still easily remove them, but he knew they meant something to dean in his mortal development and despite being a “flaw” they are the two scars he didnt wipe clean off of Dean’s body. Everything else, its like- as if Dean was born a man, or at least, however Dean wanted to look. (and still, cas removes all of deans tattoos. dean is pissed asf at cas. even if they had significance to dean, cas still removed them as it was not a part of his body and soul like the top scars, just a foreign blemish made of ink)

That is all i should probably fit in a post now, lmao

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