guys jily stans are crying on twitter because severus is more relevant to the main story than the dead couple lol
a little of what they said:
"harry's radical parents" helpppp

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guys jily stans are crying on twitter because severus is more relevant to the main story than the dead couple lol
a little of what they said:
"harry's radical parents" helpppp
i just said "if you reject everything in canon about a certain character, then you don't like them" and suddenly the marauders fans got super mad at me 😭
but come on guys it's true i'm not lying
look, stop being a coward, accept the characters with flaws and all or let them go
i hope one day society will reach such a high level of textual interpretation that i will no longer have to see some idiot taking neville's boggart seriously
i saw someone saying that severus was the stereotypical "nice guy" and... wtf??????
you guys just saying anything in the hopes that something makes sense.
the downside of having prior knowledge about politics and psychology is that it becomes torture to read what an average harry potter or marauders fan has to say about snape.
I guess the question is less about if it was or wasn't sexual assult and more that is all sexual assault equal? I'd consider a woman getting sexually assaulted much worse inherently due to how society is structured. Similarly, being raped is way worse than getting your ass grabbed for example, and both are worse than what happened to Snape, even though that was also a terrible thing. The point is not all sexual assault is equal. At this tier, sexual assault, traumatic as it is, can't really be worse than dark magic which would result in actual injuries and even death. It's way more taboo due to being associated with sex, but come on, there's just no way it's objectively even close to as bad. I'd rather be pantsed every day for the rest of my life than have to face Sectumsempra once.
At no point can your personal perception of what is or isn’t traumatic be used to assess a systemic social problem or to define the generalized experience of people regarding certain types of violence. That argument is completely fallacious and absurd precisely because it also perpetuates the undervaluation of psychological, emotional, or biased violence. Basically, you're validating only physical violence and glorifying it, when in fact it is well established in psychiatry that many victims of severe trauma have lifelong consequences without having suffered physical harm, and that deep-rooted personality traits or behaviors can develop without any physical violence involved.
What you're doing is applying a framework of trauma, abuse, and violence hierarchy. And from a criminal psychology, social work, and legal standpoint, there's an ongoing effort to dismantle that outdated rhetoric, which is also deeply rooted in structural biases closely tied to patriarchal and classist assumptions.
No one here is claiming that all types of sexual violence have the same impact or should be evaluated at the same legal or psychoanalytic level. In fact, that's exactly why in sentencing, a rapist is not punished the same as a rapist who used excessive force, nor as a harasser, nor a violent stalker. Many aggravating factors are considered when determining the severity of a case. But reducing this debate to a matter of “what’s worse” is a simplistic and utilitarian logic, and in issues so sensitive and deeply connected to sociocultural structures (structures still being actively fought within cultural, institutional, and legal spheres) it strikes me as both dangerously ignorant and deeply misinformed.
You're also dismissing all theoretical analysis —sociological, political, psychiatric— on how the exposure of someone’s body, control over that body, and the violation of personal boundaries are acts of systemic oppression, not merely socially awkward situations around nudity. The control of people begins with control over their bodies. That’s why slave owners held not only legal and political control over their slaves but also claimed ownership of their bodies for every kind of abuse. There is a clear power dynamic when someone feels entitled to exert control over another's body, be it through non-consensual sex or by exposing that body in public against their will. Justifying or minimizing this is participating in rape culture.
Rape culture, from a gender theory perspective —not just feminist, but as a foundational pillar of how we socialize— does not only justify rape. It encompasses a vast web of behaviors and social mechanisms that revolve around the normalization of abuse against the body in all forms, including non-physical acts that contribute to or excuse physical abuse.
Symbolic and sexual violence are not “lesser” just because they're not physically visible. Saying they're less severe because they don’t kill is basically a slap in the face to all the psychological research on trauma caused by emotional or psychological abuse, and how the consequences are often more deep-seated and harder to treat than PTSD from a physical attack or accident. And yes, sexual assaults are not ranked against each other to determine “the worst.” They are understood as part of a continuum of violence. There is a concept called the “violence pyramid,” which shows how abuse escalates, and its foundational layers include systemic, psychological, and emotional violence.
People can take years to recover from an emotionally abusive relationship even if their abuser never laid a hand on them. And yet that abuser is still an abuser, still legally punishable, and the victim is no less of a victim than a survivor of rape. Understanding that violence is not a competition but an intersectional network where different types of violence overlap is not about ranking suffering. It’s about understanding how some forms of aggression are normalized while others are condemned, not because they’re necessarily less harmful, but because they target bodies and individuals that lack social legitimacy as victims.
What you’re doing here, for example, is centering your personal judgment over someone else’s suffering and invalidating victims of violence through your own biases and ignorance. And I’m sorry, but just because, as a woman, being raped or publicly stripped may have more complex implications in some contexts doesn’t mean that abuse against men is any less serious.
Abuse toward men by OTHER men —such as James and Sirius publicly stripping Severus— is deeply rooted in patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and dominant models of manhood based on violence, power, and control. This isn’t just about bullying. It’s about a group of men enforcing their power over another man who doesn’t fit into hegemonic masculine norms. It is absolutely a gender issue too. The fact that this group dynamic mirrors the way women are often abused—by multiple attackers targeting perceived weakness—demands the same critical attention.
To excuse, defend, or downplay that kind of abuse is to justify toxic masculinity. James and Sirius are abusers whose actions serve to validate themselves as dominant males at the expense of a weaker one. That is patriarchy at work. And defending it is just another way of perpetuating, minimizing, and excusing patriarchal and hegemonic masculinity.
anon, i hope you NEVER tell a victim of sexual harassment that what they suffered was less bad because "at least there were no physical injuries." please, never be insensitive about this.
btw, there are psychological studies that prove that even a mild dose of exclusion (in the social sphere), for example, can trigger alarms in our brain similar to those of physical pain. now, imagine the effect any type of sexual assault can have on a person.
this whole discussion around mary macdonald is insane. you're accusing someone of racism, a serious issue, because of a character who isn't even canonically poc. it's ridiculous!
your hc/fanon is not a fact, it's not canon, no one is obligated to agree with it or follow it. you, guys, are going too far with it.
btw, this situation reminded me of when i saw an artist being attacked for drawing remus lupin white. yes, an artist was attacked just for drawing a character who is canonically white as a white person. like, WTF.
i've never understood the whole "snape deserved to be bullied" thing perpetuated by marauders fans. it's not the kind of behavior i'd expect from a fandom that claims to be progressive. i mean, it's hard for me to believe that someone who's engaged in social politics would look at a character who's marginalized in the plot and say "he deserved it".
also, if you truly believe there are people who "deserve to be bullied", be careful, because one day someone may think that you deserve to be bullied too. be careful, because the violence you help normalize can be used against you.
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i was reading a fanfic in which an oc is reincarnated as professor severus snape. the plot caught my attention, but from the moment "snape" started acting "sweet" and apologizing to the other characters, i stopped reading. i can't do that, i'm tired of vanilla characters. what makes severus interesting to me is precisely his difficult and bitter personality, based on unresolved issues from the past. severus is the reflection of a hard life, a life that was not kind to him. when they take that away from him, they ruin the character (imo).
(this is not a criticism of the author of the fanfic, i just came to the conclusion that i prefer the original severus)
i saw a snater saying that "snape's best trait is that he died". ironically, this person is a fan of regulus and rosekiller (evan rosier and barty crouch jr). do you think they've ever looked at the characters they like?
there comes a time when you can't take people like that seriously, the solution is to simply laugh and treat it as a joke.
i think that, especially on twitter, it's almost taboo to suggest that lily had flaws. any critical analysis of the character is completely rejected. she's always put in the position of "poor thing", "victim", "too nice for putting up with the evil snape" and, honestly, that's so annoying.
i feel like i need to be very careful when talking about her because people automatically interpret any suggestion that she might not be perfect as a hate attack. any attempt to give the character a more "human" and less idealized character generates the biggest fight in the fandom.
in fact, i noticed that there is an extreme trend on the internet that treats any criticism of a female character as a huge misogynistic attack and, sorry, but this sometimes ends up limiting the character to a very one-dimensional role.
the funny thing about being a snape stan is that sometimes you'll see severus getting hated for... taking a book from harry (i swear i've seen him get hated for that and it was so hilarious) or for insinuating that hermione has prominent teeth. and honestly? it's all so pathetic.
i look at other fandoms and see people commenting "my favorite character gets hated because he killed a bunch of people" or "my favorite character is a cannibal serial killer" and i think "oh, sometimes severus gets hated for calling a student's father arrogant 😔".
lol, sorry, but i really find it really funny.
the funny thing about debating with some snaters is that... they clearly have no idea what they're talking about.
their argumentative basis is very weak. the impression you get is that they formed an opinion about severus based on other people's opinions and not based on the canonical text of harry potter.
it's no coincidence that many of the claims they make about severus are exaggerated, inaccurate, or false.
i saw someone saying "women who like snape are all ugly and weird" and you know what's funnier? the same person thinks they're morally superior for not liking severus.
sorry, but if it's more "acceptable" for you to attack the appearance of real people on the internet than to like a simple fictional character, i believe your morals aren't so high. in fact, you're the problem, not the character.
i hate this narrative the marauders fandom has created that "james and sirius only attacked blood supremacists". no, that's not true. you guys are so tiresome.
james and sirius attacked others when they were bored and needed entertainment. james attacked anyone who bothered him. stop trying to portray the marauders as a vigilante group, they were irresponsible assholes.
he came out of the closet