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The Bather

Tried for a twist on the classic art history trope of the bather :)

roachpatrol

wow this is SO GOOD

sourcedumal

I thought this was Aveline at first

beckyisawrecky

I’ve never heard anything scream “I don’t know what fat women’s bodies look like” louder than this

Her ribs are literally still showing through her fat and skin somehow

She has skinny girl breasts and nipples angled upwards

The bottom of her stomach is somehow defying gravity and angled upwards as well instead of sagging above her crotch

coelasquid

Probably because it’s a painting of a stocky, muscular woman, not a “fat” one.

Those are serratus muscles, not ribs. You can see them because she’s stretching her body up, the skin on the front is pulled tight while the fleshy masses in the back bunch up (if she was bending forward it would be the opposite, with folds on the stomach and back muscles pulled tight)

The breasts are fine, that’s a pretty common look when someone has average sized breasts hanging from muscular pectorals. Nipples angle upwards sometimes, especially when people raise their arms, and not all heavyset women have large breasts.

the bottom of her stomach is a little more planar than you’d typically expect to see with this kind of rendering, but again, she’s thick and muscular, the mass of her abdomen is pulled up with the pose and doesn’t have “sagging” fat. Even on heavyset women who AREN’T muscular, that look of fat sagging on the lower abdomen is not ubiquitous. What you’re describing is a very specific type of body as though it’s the only way fat deposits build on heavier set female-assigned bodies.

orcaspanielmermaids-deactivated

I applaud you, Squid.

therealpoesdaughter-deactivated

Ditto, @orcaspanielmermaids

Clearly, Beckie knows nothing about art, to say nothing of real women’s bodies. This painting is an interpretation of one called “The Bather.” Now, there are several paintings called “The Bather” or “The Bathers,” but if it’s the one I think it is (I’m having to guess since the OP never specified the original artist), then that painting was done in the Neoclassical era of art. This period is marked by stoic and stern subject matter, and usually it depicts scenes from classical mythology (in this pic, notice the OP’s nod to the Spartans by including Spartan gear). Even though it’s an entirely different period, the Neoclassical execution looks very much like Renaissance artwork.

What I mean is this: the Renaissance painters worshiped the voluptuous female body, so women were depicted with curves and heft. Even their goddesses - Venus, for example, was a popular subject matter - were thick. I love that the ideal of beauty back then was thick women. I wish our culture was like that today. I’d be revered as a goddess for having no thigh gap instead of being told I’m a disgusting sow for having a pooch! But I digress. Neoclassicism’s depiction of women is very similar. So, given that this is the OP’s attempt to recreate that era’s style, I’d say he/she hit the mark for the most part.

Women in Neoclassical paintings don’t usually sport such huge muscles, but consider that she’s a warrior, as evidenced by the Spartan helmet, shield, and sword. The Spartans were very minimalist people; they lived as simply as possible. They had no room in their life for gluttony or excess. And they trained. Constantly. Granted, the women stopped training when they were teenagers, but assuming one continued her training through adulthood, she’d be ripped like this. So given that bit of knowledge, it’s very much appropriate for the OP to have made his warrior so muscular. Muscular, Beckie. Not fat.

jasonrainville

Hi there,

Just to chime in with some clarification; I was attempting to go against the classical “Bather” trope by presenting a powerful woman whose presence in the scene wasn’t meant to titillate or embellish like the very soft and youthful figures often depicted by the trope. Instead of a girlish nymph there for the viewers pleasure, it’s a viking who is bathing after a battle.