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Hannah Montana is fucked up because its entire POINT as a show is that children should be protected from fame and exploitation, but it stars a REAL little girl that's being exploited. Nearly every episode carries the looming threat of Miley being outed as Hannah and losing her peaceful teenage life to the ravages of fame. Her father in the show (played by her own father in real life) wisely protected her from the trauma of fame by making her wear a disguise and live a rather quiet, interview-free life. Meanwhile the REAL Billy Ray Cyrus sold his daughter to Disney Channel when she was 11 and forced her to read dialogue about how terrible it would be to face the public eye. Like... Jesus, dude. The fictional Robby Ray is 10x the father, and it's not even close. (It's also IMMENSELY funny that her dad doesn't use his real name in the show, while she does. Almost like he wanted a bit of a disconnect between his identity and his character. Something Miley didn't get.)

nyanpasu

marcosllorente

“imagine there’s no countries” fuck off john lennon how are we supposed to play the world cup without countries you ultimate scum

rainbowgaez

ok guys but imagine how hard it's gonna hit if something good ever happens again

queer-as-in-fuck-12

drug addicts deserve housing, food, water, and healthcare btw

queer-as-in-fuck-12

drug addicts deserve housing, food, water, and healthcare btw

queer-as-in-fuck-12

drug addicts deserve housing, food, water, and healthcare btw

homunculus-argument

There has to be a way to dress gothy and masc in a way that's also comfy. Like "clothes that could also double as pyjamas" level of comfy wear.

gromqueer

sweatpants?

homunculus-argument

Do you have tips on how to style sweatpants in a dressy, goth way?

vinylcatlocket

pick a pair of pants at the thrift store that you think are nice looking and comfy. then pair it with a t-shirt from the menswear section. make sure it calls to you. personalise it if you feel like changing anything about it. you have to dress like who you are authentically.

if your most authentic self is goth, and the way you sourced the clothes is more faithful to goth values, then it's going to be a super comfy goth outfit.

remember, goth is not a look, so much as it is a lifestyle. you have to have the values and practices and the aesthetic will follow

homunculus-argument

The problem is the first sentence: there is no known overlap between "looks good" and "comfy".

caffeinatedpunk

I have a few ideas but depends on how much effort you want to put on it. Diy is not only a punk feature, goths have always diy'd their clothes. I am more punk than goth but the two are not that far! They are like alt cousins :)

Quickest and easiest way to make a pair of sweatpants look goth is to bleach them. You could either dilute it and spray it on the pants or put a bit of bleach in a container, take a brush and just splash it on the pants. Leave them outside in the sun for a bit and wash them (do not put them with other clothes just to be sure you are not ruining anything). I'll say one hour and you have your personal pair of goth sweatpants.

Another thing you could do is to put holes in them. Take a pair of scissor, cut a small hole and then bush a razor on it to give it a more ripped look.

If you have more time, a bit of money and you want to try something more complicated, you can sew patches, paint them, add some metal eyelets (idk if that's how they are called in english. The metal things in the shoe where you put your laces in), chains, etc.

As for the top, band shirts!! Black shirts!! Black tank tops!! Halloween themed stuff!! You can also find them already goth enough or add patches, pins, laces, etc etc. Same goes for sweatshirts! Be creative! And also accessories!! Spike bracelets, necklaces, etc can change the look and make it more goth even if you are just wearing a pajamas.

Definitely look at old goths looks. They can be the source of great inspiration for diys. You do not need any fancy or expensive equipment or that much experience to make cool things. And remember that all of these subcultures are about breaking societal norms and expectations. So honestly going around in your pjs sounds very goth!!!

homunculus-argument

I think people misunderstood what I meant with the sweatpants: I do not want to be seen in public in sweatpants. I would rather just go with no pants at all than have to wear those in public, but unfortunately that attracts unwanted attention.

When I said "I don't want to look like I'm wearing sweatpants", I did not mean "if only there was a way for me to wear sweatpants", I meant "I do not want to be a person who wears sweatpants in public".

If I said "I hate lemons so much that I'd rather eat human shit than touch a lemon", that does not mean that I am looking for suggestions on how to safely consume feces. This is not directed at you personally, I always get misunderstood in ways like this and I don't know how to make it stop happening every time I open my mouth.

petrichorandozone

Maybe don't ask for tips on how to style sweatpants if you don't want them lmao???????????????????????

homunculus-argument

I'll be honest: I did mean it as sarcasm, in order to point out that there is literally no way of doing that. And a very small possibility that there might actually be a real solution to doing that, which I wasn't aware of. Should not have done that.

sillygooseesquire

maybe try oversized ruched parachute/cargo pants? I think that fits the comfort of sweatpants but with the vibes you're looking for