Terminally Lisa Posting

She/they, some sort of a-spec, writer, and the Goddess of Being Right. Terminally Worm Brained, and the self proclaimed biggest Lisa fan. My Ao3: https://archiveofourown.org/users/SilviaNorton/pseuds/SilviaNorton

[victoriadallonfan]

There’s untapped potential in fanart of Victoria unintentionally rage baiting Tattletale by just being a kind and considerate friend like she is by the end of the book.

I’m imagining a selfie submitted to the PHO wiki and the caption like, “Victoria and her best friend, the former villain known as Tattletale”

But it’s a picture of Victoria smiling happily at the camera, arm wrapped around Tattletale shoulders, while Tattletale is like… trying to bite her arm off

Do you see the vision

[champagnefox]

camping :)

[silvianorton]

Sweetest Day Worm Fic Challenge

A friend of mine, @pseudohqm, threw together a small writing challenge for next month, and I think it's really sweet! All are welcome, provided the limited rules within are met. I'm helping moderate for the challenge, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask!

https://archiveofourown.org/collections/WormSweetestDay2025/profile

What is Sweetest Day? Sweetest Day is the holiday (celebrated the third Saturday in October) where we share romantic deeds and expressions, or acts of charity and kindness. Participants give gifts of candy or other sweets alongside personalized messages. In the Midwestern United States, Sweetest Day is traditionally seen as a reverse Valentine's Day, with women treating the men in their lives to sweets (similar to how White Day is celebrated in Japan). This year, Sweetest Day is October 18th. What does this mean for my fan work?  Your work doesn't literally have to be about Sweetest Day to be accepted here. The spirit of the holiday is what matters! Even clever inversions would fit, so long as it's not too far outside the theme. Use your brain and read the room and it should be fine. Does this mean only M/F ships are allowed? All ships are allowed so long as the rules (stated below) are followed, and there's no hard requirement for romantic relationships of any kind. You could keep the focus on friendship, or even general kindness towards strangers. Are there any deadlines? The collection will be revealed on October 18th, but we'll keep it open for submissions through the end of the month. Is there a minimum word count? There is no stated minimum (or maximum). All works that respect the rules (stated below) will be allowed. If you can do that in 100 words and want to submit it, then that's fine! Most people would probably appreciate a longer fic, though. That's no different from anything outside the challenge.

[therealtsk]

I have to admit, I’ve never understood or liked the whole “Wards are child soldiers” statement that flors around the Worm fandom. Like…even putting aside how often it’s repeated both in and out of universe that the Brockton Bay Wards are the exception and most Wards don’t see nearly as much action… they’re still not child soldiers???

Teenage cops, sure. I wouldn’t personally agree (because the Wards have more oversight and accountability than your average American cops do) but it’s not an entirely inaccurate comparison. They are essentially hybrid cops/firefighters.

Child soldiers, meanwhile…no. For one, Wards aren’t forcibly conscripted into service. It’s a choice they make- not a completely free one, but a choice nonetheless. They get paid, they get healthcare, they even get to choose if they’ll attend certain fights! It just makes no goddamn sense that people keep saying this when on every level that comparison is just not true.

The Wards program tends to get a lot of flak (well the PRT/Protectorate does in general but that’s a separate convo) in the fandom- and it’s an odd mix of people saying either the Wards program is terrible because it forces kids to fight people (it really doesn’t) or because it doesn’t let the kids fight more people with less oversight and restraints on acceptable levels of force.

It’s weird!

[silvianorton]

So I just saw your post on what Case 53 Lisa might have been like, and was wondering what your take on ‘mindwiped Cauldron asset’ Lisa would be - no mutations, just a useful power Cauldron decided to keep within their sphere of influence?

My take is, more or less, that it wouldn't happen. Mind wiping into an asset is a rather extreme, time consuming process... Especially when Lisa could just be brought on normally. It wouldn't be hard to get her to work for them by playing off her need to be involved in things, while also having the threat of people more powerful than her hanging over her head. Less antagonistic than the Lisa and Coil relationship in canon, but you could absolutely do something with Lisa betraying/subverting Cauldron if you wanted lol. It's also just as likely that she works for them willingly, without coercion, depending on the setup.

The other struggle with mind wiping Lisa into an asset is figuring out the why and when. Most of Cauldron's victims were from other earths, from what I recall, and Lisa is from bet. That's a smaller detail, but it plays into my take above where it's like. Just easier for them to recruit her another way.

Anyway, that aside: if you could contrived something where Lisa was a brainwashed Cauldron asset, I think she'd end up something close to Shamrock in canon. In the sense of like. Her power lets her dodge some of the conditioning, find work arounds, and eventually escape/betray cauldron yo join someone like Faultine/the Irregulars. Because if she's mind wiped, she will know it, and she will have a problem with it lol.

Could be an interesting story, tbh, even if I can't find a way to justify it that satisfies me.

[glorber]

we had buge, and now we have smuge

[cpericardium]

What the HELL is this @WeaverOfficial ?????? Your coward ass is always hiding behind press releases. You are a SPINELESS LOSER. You're still gay and that's FINAL. There is just WAY too many instances of you BLATANLY telling us. You are a DISGUSTING person for this btw.

[silvianorton]

Do you have any thoughts on what a Case 53 Lisa would be like?

( I'm assuming you mean "monster cape" and not "mind wiped cauldron experiment.")

This is a fun question cause technically you could do anything you wanted, but...

I did throw together a cauldron vial alt trigger for her once. Her parents put pressure on her to "replace" Reggie, and so she has to over perform on everything. She's stuck with these feelings of not being good enough to replace him, and feeling trapped by her parent's endless attention; they helicopter her so she doesn't end up like he did. After a bit, they pull her into their office and go "this was for your brother, but you'll have to do now." And it's a cauldron vial.

I think she was on the verge of a trigger anyway, so her shard and the vial interact oddly. She turns into basically a chameleon, with smooth scaled skin. No hair at all, although she has these weird cords on her head that can also change color. She can't change her body shape, but the coloration on the outside can be whatever she wants. Oh, and she doesn't have eyes anymore, but she can grow eyes out of any surface. Including herself. The eyes fade when they're out of her range (arbitrary), but she doesn't have a limit on how many can exist.

My thoughts from there were that she ran away from home as a result of her parent's reactions to her power, and ends up in Faultline's crew, because that was fun. I actually have a short snip of that written somewhere, although I don't think it ever got posted to Ao3. I should try to find that again.

[silvianorton]

Okay I ended up tracking down the snip I wrote over a year ago, then posted it to my Ao3 snip thread.

You can read it here if you're interested.

[silvianorton]

Do you have any thoughts on what a Case 53 Lisa would be like?

( I'm assuming you mean "monster cape" and not "mind wiped cauldron experiment.")

This is a fun question cause technically you could do anything you wanted, but...

I did throw together a cauldron vial alt trigger for her once. Her parents put pressure on her to "replace" Reggie, and so she has to over perform on everything. She's stuck with these feelings of not being good enough to replace him, and feeling trapped by her parent's endless attention; they helicopter her so she doesn't end up like he did. After a bit, they pull her into their office and go "this was for your brother, but you'll have to do now." And it's a cauldron vial.

I think she was on the verge of a trigger anyway, so her shard and the vial interact oddly. She turns into basically a chameleon, with smooth scaled skin. No hair at all, although she has these weird cords on her head that can also change color. She can't change her body shape, but the coloration on the outside can be whatever she wants. Oh, and she doesn't have eyes anymore, but she can grow eyes out of any surface. Including herself. The eyes fade when they're out of her range (arbitrary), but she doesn't have a limit on how many can exist.

My thoughts from there were that she ran away from home as a result of her parent's reactions to her power, and ends up in Faultline's crew, because that was fun. I actually have a short snip of that written somewhere, although I don't think it ever got posted to Ao3. I should try to find that again.

[silvianorton]

Victoria, meeting with Doctor Yamada: She has a psychology degree and many years of experience. Easily a thinker 4, master 2

[silvianorton]

Alright I've been thinking more about Lisa's musical taste and I think I've settled on an answer I'm happy with.

She's the type who wears a Sister's of Mercy shirt alongside her denim skirt, but when you give her the aux cord, she starts up a playlist that's made up of Crane Wives, They Might be Giants, Mountain Goats, and Of Monsters and Men, amongst others. She totally does listen to alt-pop and stuff, but she's totally a sucker for folk music in general.

Also I think she didn't care much about Hozier right up until Taylor joined the Wards, and then Lisa listened to Take me to Church about 100 times in a week. Imp went on her road trip to kill heartbreaker cause she was sick of hearing folk music blasting out of Lisa's room at all hours of the night.

Anyway let me know if u disagree or have funny contributions.

[hpetrr]

I've been thinking about Tattletale vs Jack lately.

Let's think about Jack's appearances and actions. He's usually composed, manipulative and plays around and chats before actually murdering/attacking people if he deems the interesting/fun enough. it was like that with Theo (both times), with Skitter, Amy. Sure, sometimes he wants something from them, but there's this whole demanor he maintains.

Now when Tattletale exposes Cherish's plan, Jack strikes her (correct me if I'm wrong) in anger over twarting his plans, he doesn't banter back, or threaten her, he immediately strikes her in a pretty violent way from the get go.

we can attribute this to broadcast feeding him the idea that this particular teenager was dangerous and should be stopped asap, but it's not like he stops every dangerous person right away. If he is receiving these "instincts" on how to handle parahumans from broadcast (however you interpret the information to be relayed to him might be), that's a controlled situation. That's Jack having it all on the palm of his hands.

My proposal is that actually Jack didn't get get shit about TT from broadcast. he could not get a read on her at all. Otherwise, he would have stopped her before she spilled the beans. He got blindsided so bad, something that never happens, that we get this frustration outburst of his.

Now, why would that happen? As much as I condone disconsidering ward, we get a pretty good explanation/visualization on how her power works. It's very similar to how Jack's shard works even, in that it connects to other shards to acquire information to give her. The main difference is that that's her whole shtick, and she gets way more out of it than Jack.

Broadcast reached out "hey I like this guy, so let me know if your girl is doing anything bad", Her shard replies "fuck you, mine is the most specialest girl ever" so Jack is upset that she's unreadable and slashes out. It also makes sense that her shard would have more power in that extraspace confrontation.

We can see further proof of it when, even after that, Tats is still getting important reads on Jack to Taylor so she can manipulate him into taking the bet.

I'm convinced Lisa might be one of the most attuned to her shard out there because there's a suicidal teenager by her side that she adores, making her relive her trigger on a daily basis.

[furiousgoldfish]

How to spot a smear campaign:

Victims’s “crimes” will be enlarged, and even if they’re small missteps, they will be treated as if only the worst person on the planet would do such a thing

Accusations against the victim will always be a reach, aka, they did ‘this little thing’ but it actually means they’re a racist/murderer/genocide supporter/fascist/have blood on their hands, even when the person’s actions never conformed to those crimes

All and any actions of the victims will be misenterpreted in the worst possible way, anything the person does will be taken as an offense and intentions will be read as hostile and manipulative, regardless of how clear they are

All victim’s actions will be taken out of context; ie, victim said something cruel to someone, but they take out the context of the victim being abused, threatened, tortured, forced into defense mode and finally attacking out of desperation to defend themselves and get free

The victim will commonly get provoked into giving a bad reaction, (anyone gets defensive if they’re accused of the crimes they never did, or simply triggering insults until they snap), and the reaction will become the new 'proof’ that the victim is in fact, evil and guilty

A lot of pressure will be put on you to react 'correctly’ to the smear campaign; if you don’t accept to demonize this person at once, you’re getting scrutinized, shamed for your lack of morality, told that you support all these horrid things and that you are just as despicable

You will notice a trend of people ganging together based on their demonization of the victim; they will set a standard where you’re accepted and welcome if only you also will demonize and hate this person, and if you don’t, you’re blocked, cast out, and accused of causing harm

It will feel very easy to accept to demonize this person, and going against it will feel risky, like going against the grain, doubting the word of the many and risking being demonized yourself.

The smear campaign continues all the way until the victim is chased out of the community and denied a voice, even if the victim commits no further crimes, awful things will be said about them, their past 'misdeeds’ continually brought up, until the victim is commonly believed to be worthless, and becomes completely isolated, scared of society and alone

There will be no limit to what is considered okay to do to the victim of a smear campaign; even if the victim is accused of minor bad behaviour, it will become okay to threaten, insult, shout slurs, trigger, provoke, humiliate, manipulate, and repeat any kind of abusive behaviour to the victim, all because 'they’re bad so they deserve it’.

People leading the smear campaign will switch between being 'extremely grossed out and enraged’ to showing absolute joy and satisfaction when they find a new reason to demonize and smear the victim. People truly horrified of someone’s actions do not get a leap of joy when a new disaster happens, they’re not beside themselves to abuse the perpetrator all over again.

It will never, ever be acceptable to show any mercy to the victim. Forgiveness is out of the question, trying to understand them is out of the question. Even reading or listening to what this person is saying will be banned and forbidden, unless it’s for humiliating purposes. They will be shown as absolutely irredeemable, and associating yourself with them as evil and unforgivable. You will be instructed to block or unfollow or report the person based on what you’re told, without any significant proof.

Do not fall for smear campaigns. If a large amount of people all agree that a person is the worst, but their story is exaggerated, out of context, sounds fictional, and doesn’t show any proof, and the people switch from being enraged to eager, doubt it. Participating in a smear campaign will help the abusers isolate and abuse someone, and you do not want to be a part of it. They will also smear anyone who stands up to their abuse, so you’re helping the abusers to create a place where pointing out abuse gets you cast out of the community.

[wellwormfic]

We tried.

I want to point out here that it has been an extremely small number of people reacting to this blog who have caused any kind of trouble. Most of my readers have been lovely, interesting people who have given me helpful feedback and helped me to try and make this labor of love - and it really was a labor of love - the best it can possibly be, as well as as sensitive as I can make it.

This was a story about personal pain, about the mundane discomfort and agony of dealing with mental health issues in a world not particularly interested in handling them.

It's sad that a small clique of assholes known for lying, demonizing, harassing, insulting, and acting in a cruel and stupid fashion seemingly just because it gets them off has made it untenable.

I've only been working on this project for what, about a week? And it already feels like I'm sticking my finger in a blender over and over every time I use Tumblr.

Lakesbian is a vicious, cruel, hateful, borderline fascistic bigot who has learned how to use hollow imitations of the language of progressivism to convince people that they are some kind of warrior for Truth instead of what they really are:

A vile piece of shit who's harassed and demeaned every single great wormfic author on this site I know worth the name, who doesn't understand Worm and frankly doesn't seem to understand the notion of basic respect for others.

In seven days of trying to write a fun little AU, I've been called sexist, transphobic, racist, and a possible zoophile. This is from the same person who makes up cock and bull stories about her targets being secret drone strike war criminals, who denounces people for ableism before gleefully engaging in it, who acts like an authority on trans rights while misgendering others, and who has done a great number more awful things.

And for what, Lakesbian? So you could be King Shit of the Wormblr Pile? So you could feel like a big person?

Well, you won. You would be a Nazi if you were a cishet white guy, but you won.

This passion project is no longer something I'm able to do without feeling utterly miserable for no goddamn good reason at all.

For all of Lakesbian's friends and mutuals, who I'm sure really do just see them as someone funny and interesting with good takes, please try to at least respect boundaries in the future.

Oh, and by the way, Lakesbian, I think I know why you're such a fascistic piece of shit hiding behind a cheap paper-mache mask of giving a shit about anyone besides your own spiteful libido. You're an idiot with no real talents and this is the only way you feel like you matter.

I really did try to be polite, friendly, and helpful. I apologized, I edited my posts in hopes of making them less offensive (and yeah, less offensive, because I didn't want to come out and say I didn't think they were offensive anymore for free of that being distorted as something to shit on me with), I even answered that ask that dashingdashing asked me as best as I could in hopes of being helpful, friendly, and aboveboard.

I've never been a perfect author, but even I deserve better than to be a punching bag so some fucking antisemite ("Wtf is with those random Hebrew letters????" "Well, they're the Hebrew letters for "Aleph", "Bet", and "Gimel", which I learned in Hebrew School on account of being a Jew.

To my audience, again, I'm so sorry. You didn't deserve this, but you know what? I didn't either.

I'm dropping this hellsite entirely, message me or not because I sure won't see it.

[therealtsk]

this is why we can't have shit in this fandom

[trans-queen-administrator]

I don’t really post much these days, but with recent events I feel like I should speak up. The way people are treating @wellwormfic is really shitty, ranging from vagueposts to direct callout posts to flat out harassment. Y’all can be better than this.

The blog is askblog for a no-powers AU focusing on mental healthcare, for context. Full post under the cut.

I fail to see how it’s funny or even odd to have an AU focused on mental health for the story where every character is inherently traumatized and unable to escape from that trauma, but that’s just me so I’ll move on to actual complaints. Putting aside how it’s really weird to call the inclusion of hebrew letters something to unpack, the author is Jewish. The letters are aleph bet gimel, the three prominent worlds of worm. This is what I mean when I say people are looking for reasons to hate, even the most innocuous stuff is scrutinized and attacked without any thought or further research. It leads to a lot of false assumptions taken as fact and that leads to harmful misinformation being spread.

Every character is rewritten in some way, this is an alternate universe. Lisa didn’t slip Taylor LSD until she developed delusions of apotheosis in canon, Rebecca Costa-Brown ran Cauldron and ruined countless lives, all these people have superpowers in canon. Things are different because that’s inherent to an alternate universe. Accusing a trans woman of gender essentialism for AU changes that never once brings up gender in the slightest is absolutely absurd. I presume the assumed gender essentialism is men being rapists and women being incapable of that, but that’s such an uncharitable assumption with no actual evidence behind it that I think it’s incredibly irresponsible to just throw out as the first and only possibility. People have also claimed this is woobifying Cherie, but she’s still very much a terrible person in this.

Calling an idealized mental healthcare center written by someone who has been institutionalized and hurt by the real life mental healthcare system an “Insane Asylum AU (TM)” is not only dismissing her real experiences and showing how little people actually engaged with the premise before writing it off as evil and worthy of mockery, it’s ableist. It perpetuates the stigmatized view of mental health, and it implies that it’s ridiculous to even want to write about people’s mental health struggles. I know the people mocking this AU for being a mental healthcare AU probably don’t see themselves as ableist, but that is how it comes across. 

An excerpt from the post, since it’s too long to send all of. I highly recommend checking out the blog and reading it in full! The first thing OP did in the response was thank the asker for the good faith question.

The response from the original sender. It was a detailed, thoughtful, and personal post, that explained the thought process and also what OP has gone through. But if one dismisses it as ‘nothing words’, they can mock it without acknowledging the very real truth that maybe the person being targeted isn’t actually pure evil, and that these actions are hurting someone.

This isn’t even getting into the Bakuda stuff, where OP is accused of being racist for something that she had Bakuda say to depict that character as in the wrong and deeply flawed. I will put aside how Bakuda has no explicit canon nationality, and her cape name is not actual proof of her being Japanese. Because what matters is that OP then formally and thoroughly apologized for this and edited the post when people complained, and that was also dismissed as ‘nothing words’. If OP says something that can be twisted and mocked then every letter is analyzed to fuel the hatred, but any attempt to clear things up is immediately written off as nothing. There is no chance given to get better, the moment someone fails the purity test they’re evil forever. Hostile campaigns like this have driven a lot of people off of wormblr, and it’s easy to get caught up in one because it’s nice to feel righteous and morally superior. But in the end it hurts people and just fosters more and more of an echo chamber. 

If you’re going to shittalk someone and be mean, I don’t care, do it in a group chat or something though. At least have the decency to not send baiting asks or harass people.

[project-catgirlpiller]

Worm au where lisa's Power doesn't give her her ick-induced asexuality cause her shard's ability to Look Up nsfw information got blocked to comply to MasterCards Terms of service

[cpericardium]

This causes strange gaps (censor bars) in the streams of data she receives. She knows this girl likes celery in ass but not why