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[softtrains]

Are you the guy who wants to fuck trains?

we were the primary blog makin fun of him lul

[softtrains]

[profetens-apenbaring]

split model is cancer

[softtrains]

[softtrains]

rådfëms stay the fuck away from this blog it is DEAD anyway and you should be too. choke

[softtrains]

you wanna elaborate on that sir

[softtrains]

[liberalsarecool]

Capitalism needs Imperialism.

War makes money for lenders. The lenders create nothing. Their profits come from stoking conflicts.

[text-onlynopromises]

The deepest irony about this post

is that there is more to war than guns in far-off deserts

war is also  not knowing your neighbor’s name the 24-hour news cycle looking for new extremes to chew on simplifying nuance down to easy-to-swallow pills

the cyclical civil war exclusionists

war brings money and money brings war

[softtrains]

“EXCLUSIONISTS” LMAO HOW CAN U BE SO PATHETIC

[text-onlynopromises]

the entire thing was aimed more at liberals, which is why i find the post ironic.

i know it reads like it’s the party line about conservatives from a liberal side but to me, tbh, it’s more about talking about the internal civil war on the liberal side, maybe specifically on tumblr. kind of dark humor, ya get me? 

cause that “war” is all about whiny childish people slapping academic-ish names on - on all sides - in order to seem justified in feeling good about themselves at the expense of others, cause they don’t have the guts or have the ability to fight real physical wars and achieve real things with their time

which is truly pathetic, really.

i’m using one word of “exclusionists” to describe that whole in-group out-group split tendency made by socially-quarantined people to feel bonded through bullshit but whatever hot-button words you wanna spit out at me kiddo go on then 

[softtrains]

funny that u speak about ~hot-button words~ but just wrote five paragraphs tryin to justify comparing exclusionists to literal WAR

[text-onlynopromises]

uh, if you look at my original post, you’ll notice that the word “exclusionists” are a part of the metaphorical war, not the entire of it.

And hey, exclusionism and the people who practice it is a very real part of literal war, because that’s literally what propaganda does - excludes, dehumanizes, makes it easier for people to commit war crimes, rape, assault, tear down and shatter, and that’s all perfectly okay because they’re not “to our level”, they’re not “human”, they don’t deserve good things anyway because they’re “not like us”.

…Sound familiar?

[softtrains]

also funny how u speak about propaganda yet wrote another three paragraphs with the complete and utter lie that exclusionists cause or even call for the rape or dehumanization of anyone. keep goin ur doin great. keep comparing us to nazis by all means

[text-onlynopromises]

All I told you was a definition of propaganda. Then I asked you if it sounded familiar.

The justifications you’re bringing up, the accusations you’re levelling against me - that’s all you projecting. I do actually find it really funny, the stuff that you’re saying, because there’s no rationality in your replies. Just knee-jerking, like you’ve got nothing to stand on, just an emotional appeal and a truly, thoroughly, pathetic attempt at trying to call out somebody. Are you having fun? I am. 

You’re bringing up the nazis yourself, just sayin’. Way, way more wars out there with violent brutish behavior than the Holocaust, but hey, whatever metaphor rows your boat. Interesting that you jumped straight to the nazis, but maybe you find some kinship with them? Idk.

And…you know, there’s nuance in exclusionist beliefs too, I recognize that. But if you wanna generalize and simplify your own tribe…go right on ahead. You had, have, a chance to explain it to me, but instead you wanna go right on being pathetic and just using all these kinda emotional words. A screaming crying ‘lil kid, lashing out. With about as complex insults, too.

You started this whole callout thing, if we wanna regress to playground behavior. And from your blog, that’s pretty much all that you do. Maybe that’s all that you’ve got the guts to do. Bully the ones nicer than you, kinder than you. I guess that’s how you get your power trip, huh?

I guess I do kinda feel a little bit guilty responding to you like this, it’s a bit like picking on a kid or a mentally deficient turtle. But I’m just having so much fun. 

[softtrains]

i’m literally jewish so ur comment about me “finding kinship” with nazis is disgusting. don’t try to act innocent. u compared exclusionists to ppl who spread propaganda in order to literally oppress a minority. backpedaling and being all “but i didn’t type out nazis!!! it’s all ur projecting!!!!” ain’t gonna work. stop talking like some anime villain and trying to divert arguments with essays

[text-onlynopromises]

been busy. back now.

alright, fair enough, understand why you jumped straight to nazis. do apologize for that.

ok, so let’s keep it simple according to the definition you gave. This is my view:

exclusionists = people who pick on a minority, i.e. people looking for validation that they’re welcome, a safe space with safe people, within the LGBT alliance. So basically a minority of a minority. Therefore people who pick on a minority of a minority while being a minority themselves.

spreading propaganda = literally telling people that they’re not welcome, making fun of them, making them feel hurt, spreading the manifesto that’s “you are only welcome inside the alliance if you are X, because what you are doesn’t exist or belong here.”

literally oppress = denying them a safe space. reaching out to unaffiliated people just to tell them that who they are and what they believe is so bad they need to die. hounding them over and over. forcing them toward suicide. isn’t that oppression? does it need to progress to genuine, physical, violence?  

change my mind.   

[softtrains]

"exclusionists = people who pick on a minority" nope, failed right there. exclusionists = lgbt people that know having no sexual/romantic attraction doesn't make you lgbt by default when you're cis and het. the fact you think exclusionists as a whole are evil demons out to personally oppress all aroaces just because we know there's a clear definition of lgbt and some people simply are outside of it.. that's very similar to the result of propaganda babe

"spreading propaganda = literally telling people that they're not welcome" no hon, that's just stating facts. if it was a community for everyone it'd be called the human community or some shit. this community is specifically for lesbian, gay, bi and trans people. by letting cishets in you're defeating the purpose of the community. and even if it was just an opinion, that's still not what propaganda means. "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view." that's the definition. telling people your opinion about your own oppressed community ain't propaganda

"making fun of them, making them feel hurt" no one sensible is making fun of individual aro/aces for being aro/ace. and 99% of the time they're hurt because they're told cishets aren't lgbt

"you are only welcome inside the alliance if you are X" how is that not a logical conclusion to you? you are only welcome in lgbt spaces if you're lgbt, just like you are only welcome in jewish spaces if you're jewish. this isn't some fun club that's open to everyone, it's a community for specific, oppressed identities

"what you are doesn't exist or belong here" again, no one sensible is saying asexuality/aromanticism doesn't exist. we're well aware it's a valid and natural part of a person. but it doesn't make someone lgbt

"literally oppress = denying them a safe space" 1. not what oppression means. to be able to oppress, you need to be part of a privileged group, like men or white people. lgbt people aren't oppressors for keeping their own community a safe space from cishets. 2. a huge majority of us agree they should start their own separate community with their own resources. they just literally don't fit the criteria for ours, and so we aren't obligated in any way to provide our resources to them

"reaching out to unaffiliated people just to tell them that who they are and what they believe is so bad they need to die. hounding them over and over. forcing them toward suicide" once again, no one that the rest of us support says that aro/aces should die for being aro/ace, or even that inclusionists should die. you know what did happen? i personally got an anon telling me to get raped right after i said cishets aren't lgbt. a lesbian of color got doxxed on stormfront by inclusionists after saying acephobia isn't real. an inclusionist told a school shooting survivor they deserved it for "being an aphobe" and refused to donate money that'd go to the families of the deceased

and that's the whole suitcase unpacked

[softtrains]

Cis gays aren't lgbtq+ now guys, any cis person doesn't belong here uwu

how many times do i have to tell y’all i have no idea wtf you’re talking about. check the dates on posts and if it’s over like. a month old send a link or some shit jfc

but anyway i assume this is about cishet aces? who you’re trying to equate to cis GAYS? you’re a complete dumbass

[softtrains]

I didn’t see your reblog otherwise I would have reblogged from you

quit this guilt trippy bullshit lmao i could honestly care less about a homophobe apologist. anyway it’s literally right there in ur notes u just fuckin tap on it

[darkgraysunflower]

Feel the guilt

[softtrains]

choke

[darkgraysunflower]

You would never be this brave in person. My opinion doesn’t harm you. You’re acting like an outrageous child.

[softtrains]

nah mate trust me if i saw you in person i'd knock your teeth out. your homophobic opinion is exactly why people like me are being killed and discriminated against. the one who's acting like a child is you, with your pathetic attempts at guilt tripping and hate following. catch this block now and go die

[softtrains]

I didn’t see your reblog otherwise I would have reblogged from you

quit this guilt trippy bullshit lmao i could honestly care less about a homophobe apologist. anyway it’s literally right there in ur notes u just fuckin tap on it

[darkgraysunflower]

Feel the guilt

[softtrains]

choke

[softtrains]

I didn’t see your reblog otherwise I would have reblogged from you

quit this guilt trippy bullshit lmao i could honestly care less about a homophobe apologist. anyway it's literally right there in ur notes u just fuckin tap on it

[feministism]

[smallbore]

You call it homophobic! I call it not liking fags! I can choose who I like and dislike just like you!

[kittyhazelnut]

That’s? Literally? Homophobia? That’s the textbook definition of it? Are you under the impression you’re proving some type of point?

[superkat500]

I have so many questions

[darkgraysunflower]

Yo disliking a lifestyle is not the same as fear of gay people. @kittyhazelnutwashere

[darkgraysunflower]

@gabrielsbackbitches I literally have 0 aversion. Obviously.

And to @softtrains I wasn’t being hateful just expressing my opinion.

[softtrains]

u can rb directly from me u idiot. anyway "not liking gay ppl" ain't an opinion it's being scum

[feministism]

[smallbore]

You call it homophobic! I call it not liking fags! I can choose who I like and dislike just like you!

[kittyhazelnut]

That’s? Literally? Homophobia? That’s the textbook definition of it? Are you under the impression you’re proving some type of point?

[superkat500]

I have so many questions

[darkgraysunflower]

Yo disliking a lifestyle is not the same as fear of gay people. @kittyhazelnutwashere

[softtrains]

licherally die

[seriousfic]

There’s a really weird element going around where people will ignore ‘problematic’ stories so long as they’re about minorities, i.e. vigilante movies are okay IF the lead is black, wealth porn is okay if the wealthy people are Asians, unhealthy (even underage) relationships are okay so long as it’s a gay relationship. And the impression I’m left with is that SJWs actually don’t mind these ‘problematic’ things at all, it’s just a bludgeon they can use on films with male leads, white leads, et al to buttress films about minorities. 

[softtrains]

bro literally more than half of online sj circles condemned cmbyn are u daft. gotta love how vigilantism for u is on the same level as pedophilia and hoarding wealth. and damn right we want more minority representation took ya long enough to figure that out

[goonsoftheweb]

[internetwes]

​is there a term for this?? like when a person relates all of their political positions and opinions on media consumption?

[goonsoftheweb]

[blitzkriegfritz]

I mean it’s not unrealistic in your average communist dictatorship you have that same kind of thing going on. So if the line of the Party changes, for example when a new adversary to their cause appears, then the media input into society changes too

[softtrains]

holy shit this ^ is the same fool that tried to tell me punk is apolitical and skinheads are punk and not racist actually

[softtrains]

Maybe, just maybe, you're a bit hypocritical

maybe, just maybe, y'all need to stop being so cryptic on anon cause i have no fuckin idea what in the fresh hell ur talkin about

[softtrains]

Gfsfkoutgnuffvj Jesus Christ You make me hate this world fuvckfuckfuck

idk if this is supposed to be an insult or a compliment What Does This Mean

[powerfulwizard]

We’re getting pretty close to having adults who weren’t alive during 9/11, and we really need to admit at this point that the overemphasis on 9/11 in the US is just a propaganda machine to indoctrinate the younger generations into nationalism and to justify all the horrible war crimes the US committed in the Middle East, and the continued mistreatment and distrust towards refugees.

[browngirlsgang]

more people died in hurricane maria than in 9/11 but nobody gives a shit because we can’t use it to justify imperialism

[hatchet1013]

Comparison of a natural disaster to a organization of planned death and destruction is absolutely ridiculous, more people died during the black plague than the Holocaust so apparently the government is just using the Holocaust to make people hate Nazis? Makes sense right

[softtrains]

did u rly just compare 9/11 to the holocaust