so peter pan is an idiot

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[somelittlewhitebird]

Okay so I have a question because I never see anyone else eat porridge ever and I have no idea what the standard is for it

So is it normal to add sugar to your porridge or am I just a freak

[fruityfinnegan]

your 4 most recent emojis describe your 2022 experience mine are fucking 😔🤡✨😭

[somelittlewhitebird]

yooo what's up, not much, ah okay, same over here, just me simping for Wendy Darling's mom that's all

[somelittlewhitebird]

me for 10 or so years: "I do not have daddy issues or mommy issues my parents have not done anything wrong ever."

also me, kinning Peter Pan due to his hatred for adults and having nightmares about my father being Captain Hook and my mom abandoning me ever since the age of 6 or so:

[somelittlewhitebird]

One day I'll do some essay on Hook specifically because he deserves it (even though I kind of bear hatred towards him since in my dreams he has been a symbol for my dad ever since I was a child and I'm troubled so I've only recently managed to view him as just a fictional character that happens to be a brooding adult man) so here's a reminder for myself to do that at some point

[somelittlewhitebird]

The original Peter Pan and I would probably get along though. I'm below the age of twenty and I wear flowers in my hair and my stories are cool so he'd probably accept me despite being a legal adult. Though he might distrust me because I can have quite some brooding energy - but overall I think we'd vibe in forgetfulness and chaotic energy and being That Person in our friendgroups (disappearing for long periods of time to then return, demand the spotlight, do an ADHD thing and poorly share information we recently learned while also not knowing what else we exactly did whilst being gone, and then disappearing again) together

[somelittlewhitebird]

I would win from the Once Upon A Time Peter Pan if he were to challenge me to a duel or game or anything. I'd just bite a chunk out of his arm pretending to come hug him and then eat the rest of him while he's there in shock. What's he gonna do? Throw a witty one liner at me? Ominously ramble about how I broke his rules?

Like no I changed them and we're doing cannibalism today and also I'm the new Pan and your shadow is already obsessed with me. Sorry that's just how it is. If you had been the scrawny ghost from the book I wouldn't even have considered cannibalizing you because I'd obviously catch some illness from it or choke on bone but because you decided to not be him you must now watch yourself lose from me because I'm cooler than you. I'll steal all of your fangirls too btw. They'll love me.

[somelittlewhitebird]

I think I just started a disaster OUAT fanfiction oh no

[somelittlewhitebird]

Basically, when I was about 12 or 13 years old, my then best friend introduced me to OUAT and asked me if I could roleplay Pan for her (as her love interest eventually). Now I'm both obsessed with the original tale of Peter Pan and a huge lesbian so of course I said yes and then requested that we wrote a fanfic with self-inserts, because I gave off (original) Peter Pan vibes and she kind of gave off Disney princess vibes so we made this thing where fairy tale characters had their souls bound to modern day teenagers? It sounds very soulmate AU like but it wasn't really it was just us going "look how similar we are to these characters"

Anyway, I also recently realized that the Peter Pan that OUAT gives us gives me more energy that fits in with the original Captain Hook, though perhaps before the full realization that he's "old" now (neutral evil, comes off as quite mature (despite being described as childish), having no problem backstabbing or lying even outside of games, doesn't perceive the war on Henry as an actual game at all, basically just manipulates and uses the Lost Boys for "the greater good" in a way a parent or religious organization might do rather than a selfish young boy would do, he's not at all impulsive and very composed except when he's about to lose, etc.). He comes off very much as an adult who is just pretending not to be?

Hook also doesn't really behave like his original archetype in OUAT - he's more chaotic and childish. He's not a particularly bitter person at all. I would see him as more similar to the original Peter Pan than the OUAT version of Pan.

So, I thought it would be incredibly funny if there is this AU where the Pan from OUAT is really just a younger version of Hook who gets kicked out by someone else who decides to declare him as his nemesis?

I don't think I can really top the "origin story of Peter Pan" that the 2011 mini series "Neverland" did, which is slightly demotivating, buuut rewriting my old fic that I made when I was 12 and getting to ruin the OUAT's version of Pan's life is kind of great so you know what I'm doing it anyway. And I'm also going to put astrology references in it because why not lol

[somelittlewhitebird]

It probably also doesn't work that the OUAT Peter Pan seems to be based more on "Peter Pan syndrome" than the actual archetype connected to him. An adult who denies responsibility isn't exactly what the book describes - it's just a psychological term (mostly used by people who haven't studied psychology who armchair diagnose others, for it's not even a professionally recognized mental illness) with the same name.

Peter Pan in the book is a child who hates adults. He isn't denying any responsibility that he should be taking, because he literally is a child. His actual described personality is more of a trickster/prankster detached from his emotions. Now, since OUAT did the whole thing where Pan is actually an adult man who is disillusioning himself, I suppose they wrote him well within that context, but it also makes me reject him as the "official Peter Pan" because honestly fuck that, I want a fairy child not my dad lmao

[somelittlewhitebird]

I think I just started a disaster OUAT fanfiction oh no

[somelittlewhitebird]

Basically, when I was about 12 or 13 years old, my then best friend introduced me to OUAT and asked me if I could roleplay Pan for her (as her love interest eventually). Now I'm both obsessed with the original tale of Peter Pan and a huge lesbian so of course I said yes and then requested that we wrote a fanfic with self-inserts, because I gave off (original) Peter Pan vibes and she kind of gave off Disney princess vibes so we made this thing where fairy tale characters had their souls bound to modern day teenagers? It sounds very soulmate AU like but it wasn't really it was just us going "look how similar we are to these characters"

Anyway, I also recently realized that the Peter Pan that OUAT gives us gives me more energy that fits in with the original Captain Hook, though perhaps before the full realization that he's "old" now (neutral evil, comes off as quite mature (despite being described as childish), having no problem backstabbing or lying even outside of games, doesn't perceive the war on Henry as an actual game at all, basically just manipulates and uses the Lost Boys for "the greater good" in a way a parent or religious organization might do rather than a selfish young boy would do, he's not at all impulsive and very composed except when he's about to lose, etc.). He comes off very much as an adult who is just pretending not to be?

Hook also doesn't really behave like his original archetype in OUAT - he's more chaotic and childish. He's not a particularly bitter person at all. I would see him as more similar to the original Peter Pan than the OUAT version of Pan.

So, I thought it would be incredibly funny if there is this AU where the Pan from OUAT is really just a younger version of Hook who gets kicked out by someone else who decides to declare him as his nemesis?

I don't think I can really top the "origin story of Peter Pan" that the 2011 mini series "Neverland" did, which is slightly demotivating, buuut rewriting my old fic that I made when I was 12 and getting to ruin the OUAT's version of Pan's life is kind of great so you know what I'm doing it anyway. And I'm also going to put astrology references in it because why not lol

[somelittlewhitebird]

I think I just started a disaster OUAT fanfiction oh no

[somelittlewhitebird]

Reading fairy tales and folklore is so interesting, because although most tales are not actually all that deep on their own, they do really hold older versions of our cultures and mindsets. It shows us that we’ve changed, but also that we haven’t changed at all.

Many of these tales are just power fantasies or wish fulfillment, cautionary tales, edgy things filled with shock factors, funny additions added for the people listening to make it more familiar – and even if the stories themselves can be riddled with outdated and bigoted ideas, they still tell so much about our mindsets.

After researching some fairy tales listed per country, I quickly began noticing patterns within each region somewhat unique to their culture. Different creatures show up (as probably expected), but also moral values, and fears, and re-occurring fantasies. Even if two regions had two very similar sounding tales, then they would often still be distinguishable per country due to these signature ideas and feelings to them. And often these ideas are still present in our modern day. The same tone is in many old Dutch tales as in the voices of the people living around me, and I notice similar customs and expectations in Germany and England and France as in their folklore and fairy tales.

I just find it extremely fascinating how our literature keeps ending up as a self portrait, time and time again. And often more so in the silly oral tales filled with nonsense made up by anyone - it could be made up by professional story tellers as much as a random farmer or teen having to soothe a baby. Variations are added because the narrator thinks the original tale isn’t gritty enough. Other variations are made because the narrator thinks the story is too gritty. Someone adds religious values to make it a more proper tale. Someone else mentions a specific location to make their daughter point at the nearby building and say, “look, that’s where they defeated the witch!”

People will write about King Arthur’s son’s servant who slays giants and gets rewarded for it to feel powerful. Someone else will write about a treacherous fox and sloppy royals to make fun of the government without actually proposing any alternative. Someone contextualizes a flood to their children by telling them it is because humans on the land mistreated a mermaid. Somebody else explains that you shouldn’t get into caves where bears live by explaining how that once ended badly for someone.

Often we are very plain and don’t necessarily try to inspire analytical thinking or philosophy, even if such ends up happening. And I think that that’s beautiful – we accidentally preserved so many people and their thoughts and their culture just by telling stories. It’s like a footprint of our minds.

[somelittlewhitebird]

i kinda feel like i should start using proper grammar on this blog in at least my long rambles to make it easier to read and so that i’m taken seriously but like i’m ranting about a fictional child who crows like a rooster so do i really have to

[somelittlewhitebird]

peter pan is the child that got stolen by the fae and replaced with a changeling and you can’t change my mind on that

[somelittlewhitebird]

okay so once i’ve done the necessary things to keep this body alive today (aka eat breakfast and a ridiculous amount of sugar if i can find it) i’ll probably elaborate on this because i have Thoughts

[releasing-my-insanity]

So, gender in Peter Pan thoughts.

Peter doesn’t know how to tell the difference between boys and girls. So he just assumes that anyone who falls out of their pram is a boy, and anyone who doesn’t is a girl. He’ll believe you if you tell him your gender, but absent that, he defaults to “did they fall out of their pram?”

This means that not only does he recognize Wendy as a girl, but he also assumes that Michael and John are as well until they tell him otherwise. (It also might mean that Peter has questions about his own gender since he didn’t fall out of his pram, he ran away.)

Adults he sorts into four categories: Mothers, Fathers, Pirates, and Others.

One of the Lost Boys had a birth certificate identifying him as a girl. But Peter figured “Boys fall out of their prams. This is a boy.” And they didn’t correct him. So whichever one it is lives as a boy in Neverland.

When the Darlings adopt all six of the Lost Boys, it doesn’t take Mrs. Darling very long to notice. But when she speaks to him, he makes it very clear that he considers himself to be a boy. And Mrs. Darling accepts that. She makes it very clear to her husband and Liza and Nana that this one is a boy too and is to be treated the same as the other boys.

This being the early 1900s, there’s not really puberty blockers or surgeries or testosterone or anything available. But Mrs. Darling does the best she can, letting him dress like the other boys and using correct pronouns. And whichever boy it is (I don’t really care, it can be Slightly or Toodles, or Curly, or Nibs, or one of the twins), never feels like he’s any less accepted and loved than the others.

Mrs. Darling does not care to listen to anyone who tries to disagree. You must be mistaken, she does not have a second daughter. She only has one daughter, and that’s Wendy. You must mean one of her eight sons. Yes it is a large family and it is probably easy to get confused, but only Wendy is a girl. And she says this so firmly that no one would dare argue with her.

TL;DR: Peter Pan doesn’t give a single fuck about gender. One of the Lost Boys is trans. And Mrs. Darling is an excellent mother to her nine children.

[somelittlewhitebird]

peter pan is the child that got stolen by the fae and replaced with a changeling and you can’t change my mind on that

[somelittlewhitebird]

in most stories and situations i am prone to say that the child is mostly in the right, because children are rarely purposely malicious and i don’t want any child to be accused of having bad intentions the way that i was continuously accused because i know it fucks people up and also adults that pick fights with children are generally very immature in my eyes (in most cases)

but then there’s this dude *gestures vaguely at fairy leave boy with memory problems* who is a little bit of an exception and would be in the wrong had his adult not been a pirate just as bad as him

[somelittlewhitebird]

i think that the main differences between versions i like and dislike of peter pan have to do with how chaotic it dares to be, and how "human" they attempt to make him

basically i hate it when they portray him as a good person with morals who is also very human bc i love him being not that

[somelittlewhitebird]

but i also hate it whenever people try to actively make him extremely sinister and purposely evil or attempt to make him into an adult because i feel like they're missing the point of how peter is chaotic neutral and how there is no "victim" between him and hook - they're both mean and both have very strict weird moral codes that make no sense but once it's crossed they go apeshit