Hi hi! You seem to know a lot about ateez (and Korean obviously) so I wanted to ask if you knew if there's a list of media (books, movies, songs, etc) recommended or consumed by ateez?
Hi!
Sadly no. I am technically a baby atiny - I've been aware of the existence of this band for less than a year and I only started to really be an active participant in fandom for six months.
Mingi did a What's In My Bag where he mentioned a book and an author he liked. Seonghwa also is a reader and note taker but I can't immediately recall what he said he read.
I would recommend @thirstkanaphan or maybe @atiny-for-life or @updateez as potentially much better resources for this sort of information. Good luck!
@somsatangpie has been making posts about all the books recommended by the members:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
To that I can add that Yeosang, Seonghwa, and San are the most avid readers, though San seems to primarily be a poetry kinda guy these days (very Korean of him).
Mingi and Wooyoung also read quite a bit, but they seem to go for manga more so than novels and they've both also mentioned watching anime a lot. Here are just some animes Mingi has recommended for example:
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
Chainsaw Man
Spy Family
Overlord
HoriMiya
Way of the House Husband
Yeosang also mentioned a lot of books he's read on Fromm just recently:
Wooyoung recently mentioned he reads Windbreaker on Fromm as well, which is a manga series currently being adapted into an anime (they're on Season 2). It's full of violence and wholesomeness:
I can't think of anything else right now, but maybe someone else can add to the list?
Your eyes the way you smiled at me, they keep playing in my mind
So many times have I wanted to hug you
You fill my tired days with sunlight
I'm on my way to you, the one who means everything in my life
That someone like you is mine
That this kind of love is our story, really
My heart is full of emotion
To the point where tears flow
Even without a word (of comfirming), you are my world
Is the time we spend together too short?
This night feels too hard to say goodbye
Our shadows that have become one on the road we walk side by side beneath the light
I live in joy because you are in my life
That someone like you is mine
That this kind of love is our story
Really
My heart overflows
To the point of tears
Even without a word (of comfirming), you are every part of me
We look forward to the same tomorrow
We are dreaming the same dream, saúde by side laughing together
Love colors the world where you exist
Thar someone like you is mine
That this kind of love is our story
Really
My heart overflows
To the point of tears
Even without a word (of confirming), you are
Really
The world that I have waited for, such a long time
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"Let's stay together until the end. Sure.. when you're writing something there's usually an ending...but I really want to keep writing. I don't want to close the book. I want to keep writing even the last chapter. That's how I feel. I really like this moment right now too so let's keep writing it for a lifetime. Since you are able to love me that much...I'll do even better for you so don't go anywhere. Okay? You get that.. right? I can give you even more love than I do now. "
In honor of TXT playing the pepero game, I am reposting my predictions about who in Ateez would go the distance...
thank you kai, I knew I was right to read fanfic about you
My list of who WOULD kiss:
Wooyoung x Yunho: two competitive and flirty men who would absolutely commit to the bit. San and Mingi off to the side, devastated. This moment would lead to civil war within the fandom.
My list of who COULD kiss:
Hongjoong x Seonghwa: They'd get close, too close for comfort. Hongjoong has a crisis and makes it everyone's problem.
Wooyoung x San: San is ready to risk it all, but Wooyoung pulls another SexyBack and steps back right before the smooch, leaving San bewildered and sulking.
Yunho x Seonghwa: Seonghwa would be very game for this, and Yunho would cede control to his hyung and be very flustered when Seonghwa snaps the pepero with a wink and saunters away.
San x Mingi: I think Mingi gets a little too competitive and tries for it, but San can't bring himself to seal the deal.
San x Yeosang: We all know how this one goes down, except San swerves at the last minute to lay a big smooch on Yeosang's cheek, and Yeosang lets out a groan of resigned but amused displeasure.
Wooyoung x Yeosang: Similar scenario to above, except Yeosang "accidentally" knees Wooyoung in the balls.
Mingi x Wooyoung: I think Mingi would patiently let Wooyoung do whatever he wants with that big goofy smile, but Wooyoung would have a moment of rare shyness and pull away before giggling and calling him "Mangi-ya!!"
Mingi x Jongho: Mingi expects Jongho to refuse, but Jongho will use this opportunity to absolutely wreck Mingi after he spends most of the video bragging about how he'll win the game.
Wooyoung x Seonghwa: Wooyoung would be an absolute troll to start, but then Seonghwa would pull the rug out from under him by making aggressive eye contact and completely breaking his composure.
Jongho x Yeosang: I think these two would actually get pretty far on the basis of their relative comfort with each other. They would also hold eye contact and give little smiles and it would become A Thing in the fandom.
I am including the addition from @voidnull-crow to the tags because they are correct:
#as the resident Yunsang Expert. I think they could kiss#because we have multiple examples of video evidence that they’re fine with their faces being close and holding eye contact#would both be shy? absolutely. especially Yeosang#but I can see Yunho taking the opportunity. probably pulling away last second then sending Yeosang an air kiss
Originally, I was like "who is this resident yunsang expert?" and then I went to your profile:
*nods head* checks out
My list of who WON'T kiss:
Yunho x Jongho: We have video evidence
Yunho x Mingi: I'm sorry, but we know it won't happen. Yunho wouldn't let it happen. Yunho would shut it down!! COWARD!!!
San x Seonghwa: For some reason I really don't seem them participating. They are too much like big/little brother for this game.
Wooyoung x Hongjoong: We get a reprise of the bachelor game episode where Hongjoong physically restrains Wooyoung while taking the smallest bite of pepero.
Mingi x Hongjoong: Neither can handle it. Also, Mingi would need to hunch over just to get their faces aligned.
I know I'm missing a bunch of pairings, so please feel free to continue in the comments/tags.
hiii i am curious to know why you think lemon drop is about eating pussy because i knew it was definitely sexual but eating pussy 👀? my brain is intrigued and i was wondering if there were any specific lyrics that really confirmed it since im not a full korean speaker (yet)
MINORS DO NOT READ.
I MEAN IT. DO NOT READ. DO NOT. NO. SHOOOO.
Mingi starts it:
온몸이 떨려 네 소리가 내게는 반주같이/ whole body trembling, your noises feel like accompaniment
쓰고 달고 그래 한 상에 차려진 luxury/ the luxury of multiple flavors set on one table
너무 나빠 / you're such a bad girl
더는 자극하지 마, brr, da-da / don't push me further (motorboat sounds!)
풀고 감아 돌리고 다시 담아 / unwind it, roll it around and turn it, fill it again
Cassette tape 같은 그저 그런 영화/ like a cassette tape, an indifferent film
Whose body is trembling? His? Maybe, but he's observing, so I say more likely than not, hers. And if they were fucking there isn't time to observe this sort of reaction at leisure.
Her noises feel like accompaniment for two reasons. The head is far from the pussy and if he's doing it right she's making noises at the ceiling or the- UH - the other end, directionwise, from where he is focused. Because her head is likely to be tilted back, yes? Plus his ears might be muffled by thighs or by hands gripping them. This interpretation also comes from my being piano player - on a grand piano, you make the noises at the keyboard but the sound will emanate some distance away from you, you see? He's playing a key at one end and the sound is coming out the other end.
The literal translation for the 쓰고 달고 is bitter and also sweet but it would be TERRIBLE songwriting if in this song about cunnilingus, which this is, they actually went into describing what the pussy really tastes like. This is about the emotions of giving head - it's fun but it can also feel like work. And it reflects what Mingi said about love being imperfect but you should focus on him anyway. He's also had several drinks by this point, so I vote that he can't actually taste anything.
Simple point: HE'S EATING.
넌 너무 나빠 is literally You are too terrible but like, that's not how you'd say that feeling colloquially in English. No need to explain this one: brrr dada? Hello? The whole bit about unwinding and rolling and pouring is also surely too obvious. The indifferent visuals part of it is important. Exciting cunnilingus doesn't actually look like anything is happening from a porn point of view. And if you want to show a lady a good time, you actually need to take time, usually. So if someone wants to do the pussy eating correctly, you do kind of want the provocation to be not at high level because otherwise you might want to skip right to the next part.
Hongjoong takes over the next rap to say:
Oh my, drop it like it's too hot
시큼한 type, 자극 too much/ tart type, provocation too much
이건 fine dine, just good time/ this is fine dine etc
침이 고여 막 입가심은 lemon drop /mouth waters in a gush - wash it out after with lemon drop
입에 담기엔 넌 너무 naughty (Naughty) / you're too naughty to be placed in my mouth
눈빛 찌릿하면 머릿속에 parade (Parade) / when the electric glance hits, a parade inside my head
겨우 들뜬 맘 책임지길 바라/ i hope you do the right thing by my excited heart
We're sweet and sour, then a period
Have you ever put your tongue inside a vagina? It's hot in there. It's also very um, provoking. And Hongjoong is eating too, but see, this is the personality difference from Mingi who is still saying super realistic things like love is imperfect and how all connection is bittersweet and stuff. Hongjoong just has nicer thoughts because he's a boy who likes saying pretty things. Hence fine dine, and see also, just a good time. His mouth waters so much saliva is pooling (literal translation for 침이 고여 막) and there's a lemon drop somewhere nearby somehow (is he just under her skirt at the goddamn bar??) that he's gonna rinse his mouth with afterwards. He needs the vodka mouth wash afterwards because you are too 'naughty' to have pouring into one's mouth neat ( 입에 담기엔 넌 너무 naughty).
Sometimes you look down (or up) (or whatever, however it is you receive cunnilingus, if you have a pussy - if you don't, I'm kind of sorry for you, because a clitoris is the best thing ever) but anyway! When you make eye contact while engaged in cunnilingus it is actually electric ( 눈빛 찌릿) and Hongjoong is the clever type so he's going to immediately go spiraling in a flood of words in his head. He's also hopeful that after the pussy eating is done, you'll do the right thing by him.
여기저기, ooh / here and there ooh
그저 그런 fools/ average so-so fools
걱정 마 난 그 반대, ooh/ worry not, i'm the opposite
I ain't like that, ooh, yeah (I like that)
뜨거워 여름밤 열기/ it's blistering the summer night heat
너와 나 둘만의 party/ you and me, only for two, a party
Yeah, I feel the heat going crazy
Cheers to this night, 잔을 위로 / raise the glass upwards
Jongho also knows how to eat pussy. You actually don't want to poke or wander around much. You need to find the spot and STAY THERE. The rest of this doesn't need interpretation.
We take it slow, slow, slow
I got what you want, want, want
누가 뭐래도, 도, 도
너 원하는 대로, 로, 로, come and slide in
뜨거워 여름밤 열기
너와 나 둘만의 party
Yeah, I feel the heat going crazy (Oh, don't hesitate)
Cheers to this night, 잔을 위로 (Just show me what you been feelin')/ raise the glass upwards
The repetition of the slow-slow-slow, want-want-want, 도-도-도, 로-로-로 is persistent and rhythmical for a reason. The amount of ways you have to move your tongue to make these sounds is also meaningful.
And you know they've said this thing about raising the glass twice? (잔을 위로). I translated 잔 as glass to keep in spirit with the fact that this is a song named after a cocktail, but 잔 can also mean cup. What's another word for glass or cup? Chalice.
You know. The grail. You know? The Catholic religious thing about The Holy Grail and the Uterus. There was a massive best selling (deeply stupid, but that's for another day) old novel called The Da Vinci Code about what the Holy Grail really was that was also made into two movies starring Tom Hanks.
And finally, about lifting: Gertrude Stein, who was a lesbian poet and a genius and I'm very sure knew a lot about both cunnilingus and generally giving women orgasms, has this bit about lifting things on high to mean female orgasm in her poem titled, Lifting Belly.
I said it I mean lifting belly.
Don't misunderstand me.
Do you.
Do you lift everybody in that way.
No.
You are to say No.
Lifting belly.
How are you.
Lifting belly how are you lifting belly.
I rest my case. There isn't any part of this song that is not actually about eating pussy.
Disclaimer: There are no lyrics that really confirm anything and I'm pretty sure if we ask the eight (!!) people who wrote this song, six of them (EDEN, BL$$D,Maddox, Oliv, Olounder and Peperoni) would all say that it's just about drinking several cocktails in a row: A Lemon Drop (main ingredient: Vodka), another Lemon Drop, a Closer (main ingredient: Patron XO) drink a little bit of a second Closer (조금 더 Closer), before abandoning it for a Tequila Sunrise (main ingredient: Tequila). Mingi would say that he doesn't like flavored dental dams because he wants latex to taste like latex and he had a bad experience with bubblegum flavor once, but not confirm that the song is about cunnilingus. Hongjoong would scream and cry because he would agree with me but he hadn't realized that's what he was rapping about, and then run away.
Also alcohol is carcinogenic and mixing alcohol in this way would lead to a terrible hangover. Don't do this. Be nice to your liver.
P.S. Image provided by @heartseekerjhin There's a reason the Lemon Drop and the Blowjob are placed as consecutive options next to each other.
l think there are just parts of Mingi’s life that he’s private about. Mingi also went out with Hongjoong in Paris but we didn’t find out about it til he posted his Europe photodump, and he and Hongjoong had matching photos. I find it very endearing! (But also tell us more sweetie, I’m nosy)
I remember seeing a video on Tik Tok of someone recording Mingi and Hongjoong leaving through the back door of the hotel, maybe for this date, and at the time I was afraid that this kind of thing would become the "normal" for all members. So knowing that they can have a personal life that they can talk about when and if they want it (like you well said about Mingi that he only posted pics when he felt like it) and that they can choose keep it private makes me genuinely happy. (And I agree 100% tell us more I'm noisy, we're always here when they ready to talk 😂)
YUNHO/MINGI EUROPEAN DATE?! THAT THEY HID FROM US???
Yunho, who turned that EU tour into a fujo fest, who went on multiple documented dates with Seonghwa and Yeosang, among others, ALSO went out with Mingi and NEITHER OF THEM posted about it.
Okay, i'm doing the math. Mingi went on live to talk about the misplaced/lost phone incident on Feb. 20.
Where were they on Feb 20? I believe they were in Paris.
Yunho's instagram from around that time, between Berlin, Paris, and Brussels.... he could've posted his Paris selfies at a later time.
Mingi's grid is harder to read, since he did the OffWhite show around the same time...
But on March 19 he does a photo dump, and I think the clue might be there. We have this photo (left), which is very provocative, but he's also wearing this same outfit in a post from Copenhagen on Feb 13 (right), which was taken by Booba, their tour photographer (Booba also shoots Yunho).
So perhaps the date happened in this photo, which seems very casual and appropriate for Yungi, based on what we've seen before.
I find it interesting 👀 that Yunho made such a production out of taking the other members out for dates during the EU trip but not a peep from either of them about going out for dinner. Mingi didn't even mention it when he did his live about the missing phone!
I think they like to keep some parts of their friendship truly private, which I appreciate. Doesn't stop me from being nosy!!!
I stay paralyzed and open mouthed for about 15 minutes when I watched this part of video. At the time of European tour (aka Yaoi fest), I remember being very sad because everything indicated that Mingi was the only one staying alone in hotel while all other members seemed to be on some kind of honeymoon, he even said on a live that he was wasted and sleeping, and I was like, "Poor Mingi...😭." But it is actually a very positive thing that they can go out together without being recorded and keep secrets and privacy. Yunho apparently can't keep his mouth shut to keep a secret, but that's another story.
Words and writing have their own temperature. Language has its own temperature, such as warmth and coldness, and moderate warmth. When people get tired of life, some people talk to friends and talk about their worries, and some people read books and find comfort in the sentences the author delivers. In this way, ‘language’ can freeze my heart for a moment, or it can melt that frozen heart. The author of The Temperature of Language, Lee Ki-ju, enjoys eavesdropping and recording. He confesses that his bad habit comes into play when he gets on a bus or subway. This book densely contains meaningful words and writings that the author discovered in his daily life, the etymology and origin of words, and the preciousness and urgency of such language.
My note * It's completely different from something I would imagine Wooyoung would want to read.Most of the written material is from everyday life, so it is almost like a diary, but its not boring*
Link to video
Jongho
생각의 기쁨 유병욱 지음 -2017
Joy of thought by Yoo Byung Wook -2017
Synopsis
“The joy of thinking is in the process, not the result!” A writer with 16 years of experience on the non-trivial attitude of transforming small thoughts into something great.
My note: This is another case of a book that is extremely popular in Korea but completely unknown overseas. Its a very father book. In fact my father have one edition, and he loves it.
Mingi
I had that same dream again - Yoru Sumino - 2016
Synopsis
"I Had That Same Dream Again" follows Nanoka Koyanagi, a young girl tasked with defining happiness for a school project.
She meets three individuals: Minami, a self-harming teenager; "Skank-san," an ostracized woman; and "Granny," an elderly woman. Through her interactions with them, Nanoka explores their stories of pain, loneliness, and resilience, ultimately learning about different facets of happiness and how it can be found in unexpected places. The novel explores themes of bullying, trauma, suicide, self-harm, and death, making it a layered coming-of-age story.
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I have a secret by Yoru Sumino -2021
Synopsis
"I Have a Secret" by Yoru Sumino is a coming-of-age story about five high school classmates who each harbor hidden secrets and special abilities, which are tied to their perceptions of others' feelings. The novel delves into themes of friendship, love, and the things people choose not to say, highlighting the complexities of human connection and the impact of unspoken truths.
Dune - Frank Herbert - 1965
Synopsis:
Dune is set in the distant future in a feudal interstellar society, descended from terrestrial humans, in which various noble houses control planetary fiefs. It tells the story of young Paul Atreides, whose family reluctantly accepts the stewardship of the planet Arrakis.
When House Atreides is betrayed, Paul embarks on a journey of survival and discovers his destiny to lead the Fremen people and fulfill a prophecy. The novel explores themes of power, religion, ecology, and politics within a complex, futuristic society.
My note about Mingis books: *Mingi really surprised me with the books he likes. I already knew that Hongjoong and Seonghwa read a lot, but Mingi forming with them a literary trio of Ateez was deliciously surprising. All books he recommended have in common being long books, a fantasy world and the search for self identity, self knowledge, bullying, and how to deal with serious problems. Theres no link to videos where he does recomentadions because he did it on lives*
Yunho
Horrorstör by Grady Hendrix - 2014
Synopsis:
Something strange is happening at the Orsk furniture superstore in Cleveland, Ohio. Every morning, employees arrive to find broken Kjerring bookshelves, shattered Glans water goblets, and smashed Liripip wardrobes. Sales are down, security cameras reveal nothing, and store managers are panicking.
To unravel the mystery, three employees volunteer to work a nine-hour dusk-till-dawn shift. In the dead of the night, they’ll patrol the empty showroom floor, investigate strange sights and sounds, and encounter horrors that defy the imagination.
A traditional haunted house story in a thoroughly contemporary setting, Horrorstör is designed to retain its luster and natural appearance for a lifetime of use. Pleasingly proportioned with generous French flaps and a softcover binding, Horrorstör delivers the psychological terror you need in the elegant package you deserve.
My note: *This book is a jewel of horror, its very Sad Yunho dont like to read because this recomendation is precious*
I really wish making off had director's instructions for this scene. How did they get there? But imagine if it was without instructions and they were just being natural. Why was it left out of the MV??? WHY? And Mingi is only 2/3 cm shorter than Yunho HOW is he looking down like that?
For these and more questions watch full video of Lemon drop making off:
Isn’t it funny how kpop artists are not allowed to say imma beat that pussy up but they are almost always peddling sex appeal in some way so we get one thousand metaphors instead and it’s like
girl group lyrics: look at my cookie my cake my strawberry cream sundae because it’s sweet and it’s pink and it’s fresh and it’s hot and if you want it you can taste it but not everyone can taste it but you can touch it and feel it and it feel so good. My sundae my sundae everybody now 1 2 3 shake it shake it
boy group lyrics: come ride on me and around me and on top of me and jump on top of me and we are jumping around and around and we are close to each other because we are driving in the car. And you can drive my car and we can drive the car together and we can drive so hard and so fast. Vroom vroom skrrt skrrt let’s ride let’s go let’s jump up and down I love my car it’s fun.
And you know what's amazing about this? A lot of people still don't get it. I remember one of the first posts I saw when created a fan account on Twitter was someone who was really mad because people on TL were eroticizing "iT's you" by Ateez and saying without any irony, that the song was a critique about music industry. The song starts with this mysterious line "Look at the way I ride"
I was so Yungi deprived living by eating some crumbs here and there and today Dingo music posted THIS
Now I understand why Yunho always teases Mingi, Mingi's reaction, especially when drunk, is apparently to hug him. (The table behind them was so happy like me seeing they hugging, and they're Ateez staff) And the whole group drinking is a wonderful experience, they clearly lighten up and relax even with cameras
But one question remains: Was this the schedule they went to record and Mingi did a live returning to Sananbiz (or puppy/ekangmo) dorm with Yunho sleeping next to him in the car?
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