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[stillwerise44]

Literally came back to a shitshow 💀

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I'm just testing something so ignore this.

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The funny thing is I started watching F1 because I saw a race, as in I started watching during the middle of the race and had no idea what these men look liked. And then I saw the next race because I liked it not because of how they looked.

I will admit I have realised that there are attractive men in F1 but I have a brain as well as eyes. I like to educate myself on the rules and regulations (is there really a point tho - even the RD didn't know them) but I can also admire someone's attractiveness. I can also admire someone's activism.

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Michael Masi no longer retains his position as Race Director, he wouldn't have been let go had he made all the right decisions in Abu Dhabi, therefore his decisions in Abu Dhabi were incorrect. Lewis Hamilton was going to win that race and by extension the championship yet those incorrect results have been upheld. They're still messing up, there has been no apology, there has been no admittance of guilt using words, but we all know what happened, even they know what happened. Why else would Masi lose his job. It's a disgrace.

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But was the FIA seriously stupid enough to believe that a major breach of regulations wasn't going to get as much attention as it's getting. Like is that how out of touch they are?

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Read Lewis' 2007 book and can't stop thinking about a quote that broke my heart to pieces.

"Keke, Nico and I sat down with Ron Dennis. He said to us, 'I'm planning to put together a team. Are you two going to be able to stay friends if we have this team and you're competing against each other?', we said 'Yes' without hesitation and Keke created our own Kart team called Team MBM'"

They thought it would work out when they were kids and it did, which is why they thought it would work out as adults but it didn't. It must have been so hard going through everything alone whilst being so close to the person you promise you'd do this with. Because in the end they may have had their championships but they never really did have each other and I think a big part of their dreams and ideas for F1 involved one another so it's a shame it didn't work out like that.

Ok bye gotta cry.

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Feel like if Nico and Lewis were asked if they'd choose to do it all over again despite knowing that it would tear their friendship up they would do it in a heartbeat and it breaks my heart.

[lauda4theback]

Macs fans in the Lewis tag again trying to justify their fave's ableism and racism by bringing up Lewis' transphobic tweet about his nephew.

Like, babes, the whole point is that Lewis made the comment, got called out, apologised, made amends, didn't do it again, and worked to fight against the ideals that meant he thought that way in the first place.

Macs makes comments, gets called out, then doesn't apologise. That's where the process stalls for him. "I didn't mean to offend" isn't an apology, its an excuse. "I'm sorry if people were offended" isn't an excuse, it's shifting blame from him to the people who were offended. And then he does it again, uses m slur in 2017 against a steward, gets called out on it, does it again in 2020.

He's stuck on step 2 of how to be a better person, and tbh it seems like he can't be arsed to be one. And all you fans who don't call him out and make excuses are just enablers.

Tagging him because turnabout is fair play sweethearts

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Also he said "not my problem" after the 2020 incident he's been called out in 2017, no apology and then in 2020 called out again and that was his response. This man is not capable of change. He publicly fucked up, it's his obligation to publicly apologise. If you can't change after 2017 why would you change after 2020, he was called out the same and he didn't give a shit the same. He is still the same.

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You want me to feel compassion for a man who said he would tell a driver who refused to drive after Romain’s Bahrain crash that they would be out of a seat? He has no compassion, understanding or even empathy towards anyone.

If people are traumatised after seeing their colleague in what could have been a fatal accident? Well then they don’t deserve their F1 seat. If someone pisses him off? Well he’ll just call them a “mongol” and a “retard” and then he’ll say “not my problem” after being called out for it and then ignore it when a whole organisation calls him out on his ableism and discrimination. This is the man you want me to have sympathy for? 

This is the man who brake-tested his colleague. This is the man who acted as the paragon of a victim after Silverstone and when he had the opportunity to lead by example said “that’s what you get”. 

This is the man you want me to have compassion for? The man who didn’t care about what Lance Stroll must have felt, what Romain Grosjean felt, or what Lewis Hamilton felt. 

Mental health is a real issue that affects many and it’s a shame that when Helmut Mark talks about how Max felt exhausted his fans go to defend him, talk about how we’re fucked up for not caring. But it’s incredibly difficult to give a shit because where were RBR, where were you guys, when all this crap happened to Lewis, Romain, Lance, Mongolian people, people with Down Syndrome. Helmut doesn’t get to say Max was exhausted and expect compassion. 

Especially because Helmut’s the guy who incited racist abuse towards Lewis after Silverstone. Christian’s the guy who apologised for it but then said ‘oh but max also got hate right after’ as if to say Max’s hate was even comparable to the racism. Helmut was the guy who said ‘well actually we have data that shows max didn’t brake-test lewis’ but then it was proved Max did brake-test Lewis. Also didn’t Helmut accuse Lewis of consuming performance enhancing drugs - but I guess those things just aren’t mentally traumatic enough for you guys to feel sympathy/compassion.

I guess the sympathy/compassion and mental health talk only happens when Max is exhausted. But then when Romain’s accident isn’t even seen as traumatic enough to warrant missing a race (Tell that to his wife and kids - I dare you) mental health isn’t a thing. And when Lance gets called a “Mongol” and a “Retard” it doesn’t really matter what he’s thinking about it. Oh and look Lewis is being racially abused on Twitter and Instagram and Reddit and 200,000 posts had to be removed and Instagram had to be involved to remove posts but I guess that doesn’t really affect mental health does it? Oh look “Mongol” is a ableist slur towards people with down syndrome in Dutch cultures (Oh but that’s just his culture  - he’s Dutch, they’re very straightforward and blunt you know) so I guess let’s not talk about the mental health of these people with Down Syndrome because that’s just his culture. Aww he’s feeling exhaustion - HOW DARE THEY NOT HAVE SYMPATHY FOR HIM!! HOW DARE TEAMLH IGNORE HIS EXHAUSTION!! No, how dare you guys ignore Max’s ableism and sexism.

You don’t get to say he’s exhausted and then expect compassion. Because where was your compassion, where was his compassion, where was RBR’s compassion for Romain, Lance, and Lewis.

[luigihamilton44]

M*ngol is a slur just in dutch culture?? They say that? As much as i know it’s a slur in every language, how people can come with this bullshit?!

[stillwerise44]

No m*ngol is a commonly used slur in Dutch culture so alot if mv fans use it as an excuse for him saying it. Obviously it's a slur in every language but it's a commonly used slur in Dutch culture but isn't commonly used in other cultures.

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Still think about "and a better teammate" and cry myself to sleep.

Listen I think their friendship (or whatever the fuck they had) was lowkey toxic, but it still rips my heart to pieces that they thought they could do it all together but it ended up destroying them.

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I think it's incredibly heartbreaking that Lewis has to keep going through so much stuff all alone. I know people like to argue 'well he's isolated himself from them' or 'he's not close to them' but I think that's every bit understandable when these are the men that have refused to kneel for a cause that's so very close to his heart (they have no obligation to do so - but Lewis has no obligation to let these people in). These are the people who've insulted his fashion sense and then questioned why he's not close to them. These are the people who've stayed silent after Spain 2008 and Silverstone 2021 when he was bombarded with the worst type of racial abuse. These are the people who don't even have the courage to speak up about this injustice that has happened to Lewis in Abu Dhabi and I don't know why we're expecting it- they didn't speak up then, why do you think they'll speak up now.

I guess I had slight hope because I knew that even if they didn't want to speak for Lewis perhaps they would speak against the way the regulations of their sport were broken. I guess I thought they'd realise that this could have happened to them and that would have made them speak up. Maybe not.

I think these people who say 'he's too closed off' should perhaps try to figure out why it is like that. If I was passionate about something and then it turned out 19 other people shared the very same passion as me I would be so thrilled to befriend them, to talk to them. If one of those 19 people was hesitant to do so I wouldn't just be like 'wow he thinks he's to great to speak to us' I think my thought process would be 'why does he want to hang out with all these celebrities when he could talk about his passion with us - who'll actually understand him'. I'd probably realise that I have no right to demand friendship when I've never defended this man against the countless amounts of racism he's faced his whole career. I think your supposed to speak up about the stuff you think is wrong and if you don't do that, you have no right to criticise that person you've never defended on why he isn't close to people.

Also I hate it when people say that Lewis has this carefully constructed facade of fakeness, like as if he's never been his true self. Because it's true and they don't realise why. It's not out of malice or manipulation it's simply because Lewis is not allowed to be his true authentic self. He gets hate for the shit he says on his team radio under a high stress situation - he and Yuki are the only two people who've had to publicly come out and apologise for their team radios (I wonder whts so similar about them two 🤔). Remember that one time he wore green trousers to the FIA gala and he got called out for being disrespectful when Kimi was acting a drunken fool (there's nothing wrong with that, just wanted to demonstrate the double standards). Remember when Aramco/Mercedes was rumored and Lewis got so much hate, but when Aramco/Aston Martin actually happened everyone was falling over backwards to defend Sebastian when he had not received the same level of hate Lewis had (not trying to say Sebastian deserved any hate - just wanted to demonstrate the double standards again). Also the Kingspan/Mercedes thing. My point is Lewis cannot be his true authentic self, he is not allowed to slip up, slip ups for people like him are career-ending and he knows it. Like that time he got unfairly expelled because his headteacher was racist and he thought his career was over before it had even began. That wasn't even a slip up by the way, but he still knew his career could have been gone in a split second.

Lewis once asked Toto "Have you ever had the active thought that you are white" and Toto said "No". Lewis' reply was "well, I need to think about it every day because I am being made aware that I am" (that he is black). It is these constant reminders from all the people around him that should tell you exactly why Lewis is the way he is and truly why his loneliness is so fucking heartbreaking.

He can never be himself because they'll never hear him, hear the things he actually wants to say, they hear what they want to hear from this black man, they'll always see the color of his skin before they hear the words he has to speak so he has to make sure every part of him is pristine and perfect just to be given a shot at having his true authentic words being heard and opposed to hearing what they think he's saying. They love putting words in his mouth. When he says something it's wrong when he doesn't say something well they'll just make something up and get everyone riled up about it until they're telling him to shut up and drive (fun fact, he hadn't said anything for 3 months).

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I get that they're all asked by PR/The FIA to not badmouth Masi and his decisions but it still breaks my heart to see Lewis being alone since the beginning and it not changing. 2008 when the blackface happened to this day where no one can talk about this injustice that's happened to Lewis publicly (apart from Lance who I've always stanned cause of his bunny teeth and Canadian drawl but now moreso because of his sexy brain).

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I know there's a culture of suppression in F1 regarding the journalists which is why they're flip flopping and too scared to actually call what is wrong out. I don't believe for a second these journalists don't think what happened was wrong, they're just trying to protect their jobs cause the FIA are a bunch of idiots.

But I hope the same extends to the driver's because I know they don't agree with what happened, we can tell from Daniel's radio, so I'm hoping everything positive they say about Masi is because they're being suppressed, as in forced to shut the fuck up about their opinions cause it was all a big "misunderstanding" you see.

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Credits: @MikeCaulfieldF1 - Has Engineer

So that excuse is no longer valid - which it never was, by the way, agreements don't mean breaking of rules. But I guess people needed an Haas engineer to tell you to stop using that as an excuse.

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Can't believe we're being told to move on and Max/RBR fans haven't forgotten about Silverstone. Like I know this is too much to expect but please stop being hypocrites.

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Masi parroted Wheatley's line to Toto like a fucking puppet. That's proof enough that Wheatley's words were right there in Masi's head when he decided to unlap only 5 cars and when Toto complained about it afterwards. Wheatley's words influenced him.

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I’m looking at all the arguments the MV fan you’re responding to is making and honestly, they are just making a lot of excuses for him. It just feels like they are hinging on the fact that Max isn’t open. Heck, just because Lewis shares a lot of stuff on social media doesn’t mean he isn’t a private person. He still apologised for his past actions and unlearnt stuff. Verstappen was asked by Amnesty’s Dutch arm at the recent GPs to speak up on human rights issues and he never responded to them either. A simple “no I won’t” would have been enough. If he can be very blunt about what the FIA does, how on earth is Max not being blunt enough to say no? Also the fact that he and the Red Bull camp kept engaging in Lewis’s character assassination after Silverstone proves he didn’t learn a single thing from the incident with the Mongolian government as that incident carries a slice of racism and ableism, not just ableism like the majority of MV fans think it is. I’ve actually been blocked by MV fans because I told them that “Mongool” is also the Dutch word for Mongol people(their favourite defence point is that “Mongool” is just an insult for people with Down Syndrome in Dutch whereas one lookup at an online English-Dutch dictionary shows it’s used for Mongolian people)

YESS it's all these excuses that piss me off because if you're going to make excuses for your driver please do it properly.

Literally one of the responses to one of my points was "he doesn’t do shit publicly he never has and won’t" and its like yeah he won't say anything publicly to the Amnesty's Dutch Arm about their request to talk about the human rights issues, won't publicly talk about these issues he's being asked to talk about but will publicly use ableist slurs, will publicly say "not my problem" after being told that his ableist slurs have actually offended quite a lot of people. It's like the shit that he probably should be doing/saying publicly he doesn't do but then the stuff he should not be saying he says so publicly - that for reminding about the call to talk about the human rights issues I totally forgot about it.

Exactly, another response was "He was being honest he’s blunt af and he answered the question" this was in regards to what he said about Romain's Bahrain Crash by the way. And you're exactly right, how does this "blunt af" man not have the capability to say "no I don't want to do that" why was he silent, I thought he was blunt. Thank you so much for bringing up such a great point. Also the MV fan argued "then they shouldn’t be asked questions??" Which I don't know if that's a question for me of if that's saying that they shouldn't be asked any questions. But I have the same answer for both interpretations. Their job role is an F1 driver in the public eye and get asked stupid (sometimes) questions, so these questions should be asked because that's literally what they agreed for when they took ok the role of an athlete - is it shitty? Yes.

We can tell Max didn't learn a thing because he used the ableist slur in 2017 and then again in 2020. Both times he was called out for it (not as much as I think he should have been called tbf) if he can't stop saying slurs in 2017 and 2020 why do we believe he'll stop in 2022 - I'm all for 2nd chances but he's blown it. 2017 was his second chance.

But THE EXCUSES FOR THIS MAN, "he grew up around that language", yes I grew up around homophobic language and never in my 19 years of life have I ever uttered a homophobic slur. This man must have access to the Internet, must be briefed by his PR team on wtf not to say and I feel like Max's incident fully updated the PR manual to include "also don't use slurs on your team radio please" even tho that's a given. He may have grown up with that language but he should have learnt in 2017. Also ""he was never told these words were wrong?? He was obviously using them and after it all he stopped" Yes he was in 2017, and no he did not stop, it happened again in 2020.

And "Like I mean Jesus that was the only problematic thing max had done in ages" which are we really forgetting the time he said his girlfriend was his most expensive purchase 4 months ago (doesn't seem like ages does it). Which apparently "that was a fucking joke Max said it as a joke" but I thought jokes were supposed to be funny? I thought they weren't supposed to offend people? Maybe someone should tell Max what exactly a joke is, because that was not a joke.

Also another excuse that quite literally blows my mind "I mean seriously we shouldn’t listen to their radios" which I agree to a certain extent because things get said out of frustration. But like if Max is so comfortable saying that shit on the team radio doesn't that show how it's such a casual part of his life that he doesn't even have to think twice before saying it publicly. Like you won't catch any other driver saying ableist slurs no matter how pissed off they are because its not a casual part of their speech.

Thank you so much for your ask I really needed tol get that outta my chest - especially after this Jonathan Wheatley bullshit. Also your points were absolutely lovely I'm glad you sent an ask ❤.

Also I'm sorry I didn't really focus on the bits about RBR inciting hate for Lewis after Silverstone I just wanted to talk about these excuses that I've gotten and have pissed me off.