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Although I want to stay active, a lot of things have changed and it seems inappropriate to just, continue on with this blog.
I might make a new one for this.
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I’m back, maybe. There’s some renovating I need to do on this blog.
I’ll never understand anti-otherkin, you have to be very arrogant to comment on the mental health of strangers you’ve never met and furthermore diagnose us.*
It’s worse considering most of them have the vaguest understanding of otherkin and never bothered to look it up outside the realm of tumblr - you don’t think it makes you look like a doofus at all, to be so vocally opinionated about something you have a lack of information on…?
I think I trust the word of my own therapist(s) and psychiatrist than anti-otherkin, to which I’ve actually spoken in depth about my identity and whom do not see it as an issue or mental health problem.
Then again, most of the “diagnoses” given by anti-otherkin are more often made to be insulting and they clearly see ‘strange’ characteristics of mental illnesses as degrading.
*A reminder that in order to form a diagnosis you should be basing that diagnosis off of that person’s medical history, an examination of that person’s behavioral patterns and attitude, and an assessment of symptoms. Not taking a stroll through the otherkin tag for say, fifteen minutes.
hm.
I’ll never understand anti-otherkin, you have to be very arrogant to comment on the mental health of strangers you’ve never met and furthermore diagnose us.*
i’m not sure about the rest of the anti-kin community, but, i for one have never diagnosed someone who is an otherkin. claiming that one has delusions, when it is very clear that many types of otherkin do, is not diagnosing someone with anything. delusions are a symptom, they’re something to explain explicit disconnects from reality.
so if someone calls you delusional, they aren’t diagnosing you with anything. simply pointing out something that you are expressing in your views. i don’t think it’s right to comment on people’s mental health, but if all you otherkin scream is ‘stop harassing a mentally ill minor1!!!!111!!!’, key word: mentally ill, then they’re going to point it out.
i know i do.
It’s worse considering most of them have the vaguest understanding of otherkin and never bothered to look it up outside the realm of tumblr - you don’t think it makes you look like a doofus at all, to be so vocally opinionated about something you have a lack of information on…?
i have looked at both cases, personally– and i still happen to think that both forms are rather unnecessary and quite frankly bullshit identities. however, that’s my sole opinion. i’m not a professional– but i have opinions on stupid shit, but that’s my opinion– again.
I think I trust the word of my own therapist(s) and psychiatrist than anti-otherkin, to which I’ve actually spoken in depth about my identity and whom do not see it as an issue or mental health problem.
please. if you’re one of the more vanilla otherkin that you speak of that exist outside of tumblr as well, good for you! i highly doubt that those who simply wear tails and do nothing more are really all that unhealthy, however. you’re speaking for yourself. what about the deitykin, godkin, fictionkin– and factkin? the ones who ask for worship and sacrifices, the people who identify as characters that have never existed to begin with, or the people who claim to be the same person as another, living, breathing human being. none of that sounds remotely good to me– or healthy, for that matter.
Then again, most of the “diagnoses” given by anti-otherkin are more often made to be insulting and they clearly see ‘strange’ characteristics of mental illnesses as degrading.
i’d like to see some citations of anti-kin diagnosing otherkin. please.
*A reminder that in order to form a diagnosis you should be basing that diagnosis off of that person’s medical history, an examination of that person’s behavioral patterns and attitude, and an assessment of symptoms. Not taking a stroll through the otherkin tag for say, fifteen minutes.
well, you’re not wrong.
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Back when I was active, people definitely were diagnosing otherkin as collectively mentally ill and delusional, more often than not to be insulting. I’m sure it happens just as frequently as it did then but I haven’t checked the tags.
Although delusions are a symptom, they still need to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist in order to be classified as a delusion.
Yes, some otherkin do state that their identity is the result of a delusion so it wouldn’t be incorrect for someone to say it was a delusion - that is, if the entire community was composed of mentally ill individuals, which it isn’t and is not measurable at this point.
If you’ve never called otherkin delusional, haven’t tried pinning a diagnosis in order to somehow illegitimize the identity or used mental illness to insult otherkin: congrats, you are one of the few.
Did you honestly look at otherkin outside of tumblr, because you’re implying that off of here we don’t exist. If you did, if you actually bothered to become acquainted with the subject you would be much more aware of the otherkin community off of tumblr - which is fairly large, and far different from the atmosphere on here.
I am fictionkin, surprise. Again, I talked to my therapists and my doctor about it, I explained my reasoning for the identity and they saw no harm in it - therefore no problem. We moved on to bigger things, it’s simple to grasp. I can’t speak for gods or deities because I’m not one, I can only speak for myself. I thought you weren’t keen on commenting on people’s mental health? For the second time, I do not care about what a stranger believes is healthy for me because they do not know my mental health, my personal information and essentially understand zip about me. I’m placing my trust in the hands of doctors I’m acquainted with and who I know are capable of making rational decisions, and are civil toward me.
Even if what I was experiencing was a delusion - I wouldn’t care, because it’s just not doing me any harm. If it was, yes, that would then be a problem for me to take care of. However it’s already been evaluated that it is not.
Factkin weren’t otherkin, might I add. As far as I know people were having delusions of being other people, however didn’t want to refer to it as a delusion because it invalidated their reality. So they came up with factkin. No one really accepts them as being part of the community, however I am still upholding the idea that no one should be criticizing their mental health considering it’s their business, they probably already know if it’s harming them or not, and it’s their business how they’re dealing with it. Mentally ill people still have their autonomy, which many often forget.
If you want sources you can scroll through the otherkin tag. I don’t know what it’s like now, when I was actively making posts it was riddled with people calling otherkin delusional and mentally ill, etc. You can delve into my blog as well, as I’m sure I’ve called people out for it many times.
I won’t be around much, if you’ve already noticed. Things are out of line offline right now and I’m in a strange spot, so I won’t be on this sideblog often or speaking much about otherkin topics. Feel free to follow my main, though.
Question for Fictionkin
I was just wondering about one thing. Please don’t take this as a hostile post, I just mean to learn more about it.
Question: Is fictionkin something you are born with (like you feel it but can’t explain it until you finally see the series the character is in) or is something you choose when the series comes out?
People don’t necessarily choose to be the characters they identify as - sometimes an individual may begin watching a series and over time begin to understand that they’re kin with them. It’s more of a choice to recognize this identity, than to see the character and choose to be them.
There’s a lot of ways one might realize they’re fictionkin - some people, might see it as something you were born with but not realize until later in life. I see my own fictotype as a past life sorta deal, and therefore it would have already been with me when I was born. Even when I first became aware of the character when I was a kid, it still took years to figure out what I was feeling toward the character and what it meant. But as a child, I probably didn’t really know much about that part of myself until I first saw the character.
I wasn’t born with the identity however, and didn’t start IDing as fictionkin until later on in life.
It really varies per person how we see our identities and how we came to realize them, but I hope this answers your question!
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Hey yeah, can you leave my fucking girlfriend alone? That'd be greatly appreciated. And no, she didn't tell me to come over here and tell you this, I came here by myself. You have no right to call her something that she isn't. I happen to be transgender, so tell me how she can be transphobic when she's dating someone who identifies as transgender? Yeah, your downgrading on my girlfriend backfired. Think again before you pick on someone.
You’re a little late to the party, honestly if this is even a real person. If I had a nickel for everytime there was that “I’m TOO a trans & I disagree with you!!” fake-ass anon…
Shockingly, a cis person can still be transphobic, even when they are in a relationship with a transgender person. This is an obvious fact and a common occurrence for trans people in which our significant others have ideas and views which negatively impacts us. I’ve had the pleasure of breaking off a lot of friendships with cis people because of their transphobia, however they’ll insist to their graves that it was never so, and because “if I was a transphobe how can I be friends with you!”. It’s the same, bullshitted rhetoric.
I noticed you both use the same terms and language when you speak. I’d say that’s a little skeevy, anon. Why don’t you come back off of anon?
“Think again before you pick on someone”. That gave me a good giggle. I wasn’t aware that I was such a big bully, calling out those transphobes and all…
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Lmao you otherkin bitches and your defensiveness. Get over yourself. I know the difference between otherkin and transgender, but apparently you don’t. Otherkin should not exist, you make yourself look stupid. Being transgender can be dangerous for some…
You’re contributing to ideas which hurt transgender people and refusing to listen to trans people when they correct you, so therefore… I call it as I see it, as someone who has experienced this kind of transphobia, and as a trans person.
The action of telling a trans person off for referring to you as transphobic just solidifies this. Instead of actually caring about what we’re saying to you, you’ll write it off and continue to use us as props in your arguments. You’re being called a transphobe for a reason, bite your tongue - and use your head.
You are literally saying otherkin is the same as transphobia, because I don’t like otherkin. Did I ever say I didn’t like transgenders? Nope. You said earlier that otherkin isn’t the same as transgender, yet you put it in the same category as being transphobic. Which I am not. Try again at downgrading me.
That’s not what I’m saying at all, you need to go back and read what I’m saying to you.
I’m telling you as a trans person, you don’t have to like otherkin. I’m also telling you, saying otherkin is harmful to us as your backing for your reason to dislike otherkin, is more harmful to trans people than you considered. This as a result leads to transphobia and the erasure of our identities as trans people.
Refusing to listen to a trans person when you’ve been told to not do something which perpetuates transphobic ideas, is transphobia. Transphobia in the social sense is not just disliking transgender people, it’s furthermore actions against us which may or may not have been intentional. Speaking over trans people is an example of this. You should be considering that you, a cis person does not know as much on this topic as someone who’s been in both communities for a few years now, and especially as someone who is transgender.
That’s all there is too it. Otherkin hate is in no way comparable to transphobia, however in this case, the situation encourages transphobic ideas.
Lmao you think I don’t know anything. 👌 You think that cis people can’t speak about other communities. How pathetic.
I think that cis people are more than welcome to support trans people, however if you speak over trans people & act as if you know far more than we do about what is and isn’t transphobic… Well, I have news for you - you are no ally to us.
So yes, I really don’t think you know anything, or you’re just digging your heels in the dirt out of sheer stubbornness. It could be both.
Did I say I knew more than you? Nope. Did I act like I knew more than you? lol no. Bye, get off my blog.
You imply it with your reluctance to listen to what trans people are telling you about what you’re doing wrong in your ‘support’ for us. Your inability to actually care about the opinions of trans people & how this conflates with this reluctance is telling of this fact.
As you wish it, may it be so. It’s obvious you don’t care truly care about us, and therefore I see no reason to continue pointing out your transphobia. The case has been made, ciao.
Lmao you otherkin bitches and your defensiveness. Get over yourself. I know the difference between otherkin and transgender, but apparently you don’t. Otherkin should not exist, you make yourself look stupid. Being transgender can be dangerous for some…
You’re contributing to ideas which hurt transgender people and refusing to listen to trans people when they correct you, so therefore… I call it as I see it, as someone who has experienced this kind of transphobia, and as a trans person.
The action of telling a trans person off for referring to you as transphobic just solidifies this. Instead of actually caring about what we’re saying to you, you’ll write it off and continue to use us as props in your arguments. You’re being called a transphobe for a reason, bite your tongue - and use your head.
You are literally saying otherkin is the same as transphobia, because I don’t like otherkin. Did I ever say I didn’t like transgenders? Nope. You said earlier that otherkin isn’t the same as transgender, yet you put it in the same category as being transphobic. Which I am not. Try again at downgrading me.
That’s not what I’m saying at all, you need to go back and read what I’m saying to you.
I’m telling you as a trans person, you don’t have to like otherkin. I’m also telling you, saying otherkin is harmful to us as your backing for your reason to dislike otherkin, is more harmful to trans people than you considered. This as a result leads to transphobia and the erasure of our identities as trans people.
Refusing to listen to a trans person when you’ve been told to not do something which perpetuates transphobic ideas, is transphobia. Transphobia in the social sense is not just disliking transgender people, it’s furthermore actions against us which may or may not have been intentional. Speaking over trans people is an example of this. You should be considering that you, a cis person does not know as much on this topic as someone who’s been in both communities for a few years now, and especially as someone who is transgender.
That’s all there is too it. Otherkin hate is in no way comparable to transphobia, however in this case, the situation encourages transphobic ideas.
Lmao you think I don’t know anything. 👌 You think that cis people can’t speak about other communities. How pathetic.
I think that cis people are more than welcome to support trans people, however if you speak over trans people & act as if you know far more than we do about what is and isn’t transphobic... Well, I have news for you - you are no ally to us.
So yes, I really don’t think you know anything, or you’re just digging your heels in the dirt out of sheer stubbornness. It could be both.
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