ALNST x ORV 🎤 📖
Something I see a lot is when people do an Alien Stage crossover with ORV, is that they usually depict Till as Kim Dokja, but I think Ivan is more similar to KDJ.
- Ivan was content to be a watcher of Till’s circle, he didn’t try to deepen his relationship with Till because he knew and respected the fact that Till has a crush on Mizi (also how he generally has trouble having intimate relationships with others.) Similarly, KDJ is a reader and became part of YJH’s circle. Their connection came from natural means, KDJ involved himself with YJH as he IS the protagonist so KDJ needed to become part of YJH’s circle.
Also, just the general parallel between the two:
- When YJH was in his “regression depression,” KDJ had to motivate/prep talk him back to wanting to live rather than die. Kinda like how Ivan choked Till in Round 6, as a means to ground Till through violence who had given up/stopped singing.
- On that train of thought, when KDJ became the 73rd Demon King, he provoked the others into killing him. This was in order to complete the scenario as if they did not kill him, all of them would have ended up dying. Ivan choking Till was a provocation for him to continue living and a means to decrease his points so that Ivan would be the one to lose.
- Something I saw someone say is that KDJ wouldn’t do something as bold as what Ivan did where he kissed Till but I disagree. Ivan sacrificed himself and conveying his feelings for Till through that kiss. This parallels to how KDJ sacrificed himself by becoming the 73rd Demon King plus the prophecy where he would be killed by the one he loves the most. Even if he did not sacrifice himself solely for YJH, YJH was the one who ultimately landed the killing blow as he embodied what KDJ loved the most, the story.
- The quote “Thank you for being the victim of my shallow emotions” (Ivan) parallels with “It was a really great story, isn’t that right?” (KDJ)
- They are both just so willing to sacrifice/give themself up for the one(s) they care about. They also just de-value themselves and can’t fathom people actually loving them.













