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None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
Those âwordsâ all mean âloverâ and uh, Cloud and Aerith go on two dates together in the original game. Cloud tells Aerith that HEâS there for her. They have a marriage prediction. Cloud tells Sephiroth that he doesnât care if the Planet dies now that Aerith is dead. And Cloud says he wants to be with Aerith in the Promised Land.
Connect the dots between those things and you get âloversâ. Fans denied what all of this meant, but Nojima confirmed that all of their interactions were that of lovers. Therefore, Clerith is canon. You interpreted the game incorrectly. Your bias led you to falsely believe that everything you saw between Cloud and Aerith wasnât romantic, when in fact, it was. Now Nojimaâs novel confirms that.
Not to mention, the original game advertised Cloud and Aerith as a âstory of a loveâ
Amano did all this:
I will say this, however, that the LTD will probably equal it out. Clerith in the original game, cloti in the âpresentâ, finished off by clerith as endgame.But this is just speculation on my part. The only facts we have are that Cloud and Aerith are lovers and thatâs it. Â
You can call them facts all you want. Any ship within FFVII is optional regardless of how itâs advertised. Each dynamic homes itâs own potential and that is up to the fan to decide which they like and prefer. Let me repeat: itâs up to the fan to decide which they prefer.
Not shove anything down anybody elseâs throats merely because they lack the ability to see that not everybody will agree with what they see. You feel?
Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie. Which I ship. Cloud goes on a date with Tifa. Which I also ship. Cloud goes on a date with Barret as well. Which surprise surprise I also can ship. Your absurd accusation that my interpretation of the game is incorrect only because I say any dynamic could have been a thing is humorous to say the least. The dates are dependent on the player whoâs in control of Cloud. All of that is optional. Iâm an Amano Stan so Iâm all too aware of the work. Art does many things and shall always be beautiful but that does little for your case. I donât shame you for your ship. Heck I ship them as well, but never considered them canon. None of the ships. Because, again, in the original game, how the characters responded to you was dependent on the bias of the player.
Just because you see a post thatâs saying some ship is canon, that doesnât mean anyone is shoving it down your throat.Â
And you can repeat your opinion all you want, itâs still your opinion. Regardless of how YOU play the game, Nojima declared Cloud and Aerith as lovers. He obliterated any optionality to Clerith by calling them lovers.Â
Thatâs a fact. Â
Youâre the only one whoâs engaged on my post. This isnât /just/ about the canon aspect of things, or that I have a problem with any ship because I can ship pretty much anything and everything with the right amount of interaction, but for the people who do actually do such things. People who canât handle opinions that donât match theirs. Who berrate others only because they have a different opinion than they do. Who go out of their way to bother others which in turn only manage to make clowns of themselves. That is also fact. Itâs for those who canât grow up.
kind of like someone that cant handle seeing other people post essays for their ship and says shit like this
so take a dose of your own medicine. ignore the essays. donât tell people to shut up because theyâre discussing a major point in the game. again, youâre the one telling people to shut up therefore youâre forcing your opinion down their throats.Â
No actually. That wasnât for the essays at all but for people who, like you, canât handle opinions that donât match their own.
Essay posting on the daily is something I do for fun so trust me not the essays lmao.
I will shove, by hand if I have to, to respect a peer youâre right about that.
Point me to these people that inspired your initial post that were displaying the behavior youâre talking about.Â
Nobody other than a CLOTI fan has been going around crosstagging and calling people âretardedâ and âfagsâ for shipping Clerith.Â
So, are you talking about the rabid cloti fan? If not, LINK ME to the people in which you speak of. If you cannot provide me with evidence supporting your claim then either you were lying, or you WERE directing your initial post to those that write love triangle essays.
In which case, you are guilty of hypocrisy because you told fans to âshut upâ about writing their opinions when you should follow your own advice and let people have their opinions and leave them be.
So again, show me these people that were going all âhitlerâ about shipping.
Going all hitler awraxa. This is so funny but of course sure thing. Youâre a fine example of one, because again you chose to engage for a reason. Iâm sadly mobile bound but Iâve got screenshots to spare of both ends so no worries there.
That tag made my night though thanks for the laugh it was getting kind of stale over here awraxa.
Nope, canât claim Iâm one. Iâm only talking to you because you told fans âshut upâ about their ship opinions. Iâm telling you to let fans have their opinions, meanwhile youâre telling us to shut up.Â
Iâm glad you have screenshots. Now point me in the direction of their posts.
When did this role swap plot twist happen this is interesting awraxa. Considering that I said from the start: let people ship what they will.
But of course Iâll do so with much glee.
When you decided to tell everyone that thinks a ship is canon to âshut upâ. Thatâs you displaying INTOLERANCE for other peopleâs opinions.
Which is what this whole thing is! See how frustrating it is? Iâm glad we can agree! People will have their opinions, and itâs no reason to pursue them with malicious intent if theyâre not out to hurt you. But claiming I have intolerance when I said from the start Hey you do you is a bit of a stretch there buddy.
None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
Those âwordsâ all mean âloverâ and uh, Cloud and Aerith go on two dates together in the original game. Cloud tells Aerith that HEâS there for her. They have a marriage prediction. Cloud tells Sephiroth that he doesnât care if the Planet dies now that Aerith is dead. And Cloud says he wants to be with Aerith in the Promised Land.
Connect the dots between those things and you get âloversâ. Fans denied what all of this meant, but Nojima confirmed that all of their interactions were that of lovers. Therefore, Clerith is canon. You interpreted the game incorrectly. Your bias led you to falsely believe that everything you saw between Cloud and Aerith wasnât romantic, when in fact, it was. Now Nojimaâs novel confirms that.
Not to mention, the original game advertised Cloud and Aerith as a âstory of a loveâ
Amano did all this:
I will say this, however, that the LTD will probably equal it out. Clerith in the original game, cloti in the âpresentâ, finished off by clerith as endgame.But this is just speculation on my part. The only facts we have are that Cloud and Aerith are lovers and thatâs it. Â
You can call them facts all you want. Any ship within FFVII is optional regardless of how itâs advertised. Each dynamic homes itâs own potential and that is up to the fan to decide which they like and prefer. Let me repeat: itâs up to the fan to decide which they prefer.
Not shove anything down anybody elseâs throats merely because they lack the ability to see that not everybody will agree with what they see. You feel?
Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie. Which I ship. Cloud goes on a date with Tifa. Which I also ship. Cloud goes on a date with Barret as well. Which surprise surprise I also can ship. Your absurd accusation that my interpretation of the game is incorrect only because I say any dynamic could have been a thing is humorous to say the least. The dates are dependent on the player whoâs in control of Cloud. All of that is optional. Iâm an Amano Stan so Iâm all too aware of the work. Art does many things and shall always be beautiful but that does little for your case. I donât shame you for your ship. Heck I ship them as well, but never considered them canon. None of the ships. Because, again, in the original game, how the characters responded to you was dependent on the bias of the player.
Just because you see a post thatâs saying some ship is canon, that doesnât mean anyone is shoving it down your throat.Â
And you can repeat your opinion all you want, itâs still your opinion. Regardless of how YOU play the game, Nojima declared Cloud and Aerith as lovers. He obliterated any optionality to Clerith by calling them lovers.Â
Thatâs a fact. Â
Youâre the only one whoâs engaged on my post. This isnât /just/ about the canon aspect of things, or that I have a problem with any ship because I can ship pretty much anything and everything with the right amount of interaction, but for the people who do actually do such things. People who canât handle opinions that donât match theirs. Who berrate others only because they have a different opinion than they do. Who go out of their way to bother others which in turn only manage to make clowns of themselves. That is also fact. Itâs for those who canât grow up.
kind of like someone that cant handle seeing other people post essays for their ship and says shit like this
so take a dose of your own medicine. ignore the essays. donât tell people to shut up because theyâre discussing a major point in the game. again, youâre the one telling people to shut up therefore youâre forcing your opinion down their throats.Â
No actually. That wasnât for the essays at all but for people who, like you, canât handle opinions that donât match their own.
Essay posting on the daily is something I do for fun so trust me not the essays lmao.
I will shove, by hand if I have to, to respect a peer youâre right about that.
Point me to these people that inspired your initial post that were displaying the behavior youâre talking about.Â
Nobody other than a CLOTI fan has been going around crosstagging and calling people âretardedâ and âfagsâ for shipping Clerith.Â
So, are you talking about the rabid cloti fan? If not, LINK ME to the people in which you speak of. If you cannot provide me with evidence supporting your claim then either you were lying, or you WERE directing your initial post to those that write love triangle essays.
In which case, you are guilty of hypocrisy because you told fans to âshut upâ about writing their opinions when you should follow your own advice and let people have their opinions and leave them be.
So again, show me these people that were going all âhitlerâ about shipping.
Going all hitler awraxa. This is so funny but of course sure thing. Youâre a fine example of one, because again you chose to engage for a reason. Iâm sadly mobile bound but Iâve got screenshots to spare of both ends so no worries there.
That tag made my night though thanks for the laugh it was getting kind of stale over here awraxa.
Nope, canât claim Iâm one. Iâm only talking to you because you told fans âshut upâ about their ship opinions. Iâm telling you to let fans have their opinions, meanwhile youâre telling us to shut up.Â
Iâm glad you have screenshots. Now point me in the direction of their posts.
When did this role swap plot twist happen this is interesting awraxa. Considering that I said from the start: let people ship what they will.
But of course Iâll do so with much glee.
None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
Those âwordsâ all mean âloverâ and uh, Cloud and Aerith go on two dates together in the original game. Cloud tells Aerith that HEâS there for her. They have a marriage prediction. Cloud tells Sephiroth that he doesnât care if the Planet dies now that Aerith is dead. And Cloud says he wants to be with Aerith in the Promised Land.
Connect the dots between those things and you get âloversâ. Fans denied what all of this meant, but Nojima confirmed that all of their interactions were that of lovers. Therefore, Clerith is canon. You interpreted the game incorrectly. Your bias led you to falsely believe that everything you saw between Cloud and Aerith wasnât romantic, when in fact, it was. Now Nojimaâs novel confirms that.
Not to mention, the original game advertised Cloud and Aerith as a âstory of a loveâ
Amano did all this:
I will say this, however, that the LTD will probably equal it out. Clerith in the original game, cloti in the âpresentâ, finished off by clerith as endgame.But this is just speculation on my part. The only facts we have are that Cloud and Aerith are lovers and thatâs it. Â
You can call them facts all you want. Any ship within FFVII is optional regardless of how itâs advertised. Each dynamic homes itâs own potential and that is up to the fan to decide which they like and prefer. Let me repeat: itâs up to the fan to decide which they prefer.
Not shove anything down anybody elseâs throats merely because they lack the ability to see that not everybody will agree with what they see. You feel?
Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie. Which I ship. Cloud goes on a date with Tifa. Which I also ship. Cloud goes on a date with Barret as well. Which surprise surprise I also can ship. Your absurd accusation that my interpretation of the game is incorrect only because I say any dynamic could have been a thing is humorous to say the least. The dates are dependent on the player whoâs in control of Cloud. All of that is optional. Iâm an Amano Stan so Iâm all too aware of the work. Art does many things and shall always be beautiful but that does little for your case. I donât shame you for your ship. Heck I ship them as well, but never considered them canon. None of the ships. Because, again, in the original game, how the characters responded to you was dependent on the bias of the player.
Just because you see a post thatâs saying some ship is canon, that doesnât mean anyone is shoving it down your throat.Â
And you can repeat your opinion all you want, itâs still your opinion. Regardless of how YOU play the game, Nojima declared Cloud and Aerith as lovers. He obliterated any optionality to Clerith by calling them lovers.Â
Thatâs a fact. Â
Youâre the only one whoâs engaged on my post. This isnât /just/ about the canon aspect of things, or that I have a problem with any ship because I can ship pretty much anything and everything with the right amount of interaction, but for the people who do actually do such things. People who canât handle opinions that donât match theirs. Who berrate others only because they have a different opinion than they do. Who go out of their way to bother others which in turn only manage to make clowns of themselves. That is also fact. Itâs for those who canât grow up.
kind of like someone that cant handle seeing other people post essays for their ship and says shit like this
so take a dose of your own medicine. ignore the essays. donât tell people to shut up because theyâre discussing a major point in the game. again, youâre the one telling people to shut up therefore youâre forcing your opinion down their throats.Â
No actually. That wasnât for the essays at all but for people who, like you, canât handle opinions that donât match their own.
Essay posting on the daily is something I do for fun so trust me not the essays lmao.
I will shove, by hand if I have to, to respect a peer youâre right about that.
Point me to these people that inspired your initial post that were displaying the behavior youâre talking about.Â
Nobody other than a CLOTI fan has been going around crosstagging and calling people âretardedâ and âfagsâ for shipping Clerith.Â
So, are you talking about the rabid cloti fan? If not, LINK ME to the people in which you speak of. If you cannot provide me with evidence supporting your claim then either you were lying, or you WERE directing your initial post to those that write love triangle essays.
In which case, you are guilty of hypocrisy because you told fans to âshut upâ about writing their opinions when you should follow your own advice and let people have their opinions and leave them be.
So again, show me these people that were going all âhitlerâ about shipping.
Going all hitler awraxa. This is so funny but of course sure thing. Youâre a fine example of one, because again you chose to engage for a reason. Iâm sadly mobile bound but Iâve got screenshots to spare of both ends so no worries there.
That tag made my night though thanks for the laugh it was getting kind of stale over here awraxa.
None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
Those âwordsâ all mean âloverâ and uh, Cloud and Aerith go on two dates together in the original game. Cloud tells Aerith that HEâS there for her. They have a marriage prediction. Cloud tells Sephiroth that he doesnât care if the Planet dies now that Aerith is dead. And Cloud says he wants to be with Aerith in the Promised Land.
Connect the dots between those things and you get âloversâ. Fans denied what all of this meant, but Nojima confirmed that all of their interactions were that of lovers. Therefore, Clerith is canon. You interpreted the game incorrectly. Your bias led you to falsely believe that everything you saw between Cloud and Aerith wasnât romantic, when in fact, it was. Now Nojimaâs novel confirms that.
Not to mention, the original game advertised Cloud and Aerith as a âstory of a loveâ
Amano did all this:
I will say this, however, that the LTD will probably equal it out. Clerith in the original game, cloti in the âpresentâ, finished off by clerith as endgame.But this is just speculation on my part. The only facts we have are that Cloud and Aerith are lovers and thatâs it. Â
You can call them facts all you want. Any ship within FFVII is optional regardless of how itâs advertised. Each dynamic homes itâs own potential and that is up to the fan to decide which they like and prefer. Let me repeat: itâs up to the fan to decide which they prefer.
Not shove anything down anybody elseâs throats merely because they lack the ability to see that not everybody will agree with what they see. You feel?
Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie. Which I ship. Cloud goes on a date with Tifa. Which I also ship. Cloud goes on a date with Barret as well. Which surprise surprise I also can ship. Your absurd accusation that my interpretation of the game is incorrect only because I say any dynamic could have been a thing is humorous to say the least. The dates are dependent on the player whoâs in control of Cloud. All of that is optional. Iâm an Amano Stan so Iâm all too aware of the work. Art does many things and shall always be beautiful but that does little for your case. I donât shame you for your ship. Heck I ship them as well, but never considered them canon. None of the ships. Because, again, in the original game, how the characters responded to you was dependent on the bias of the player.
Just because you see a post thatâs saying some ship is canon, that doesnât mean anyone is shoving it down your throat.Â
And you can repeat your opinion all you want, itâs still your opinion. Regardless of how YOU play the game, Nojima declared Cloud and Aerith as lovers. He obliterated any optionality to Clerith by calling them lovers.Â
Thatâs a fact. Â
Youâre the only one whoâs engaged on my post. This isnât /just/ about the canon aspect of things, or that I have a problem with any ship because I can ship pretty much anything and everything with the right amount of interaction, but for the people who do actually do such things. People who canât handle opinions that donât match theirs. Who berrate others only because they have a different opinion than they do. Who go out of their way to bother others which in turn only manage to make clowns of themselves. That is also fact. Itâs for those who canât grow up.
kind of like someone that cant handle seeing other people post essays for their ship and says shit like this
so take a dose of your own medicine. ignore the essays. donât tell people to shut up because theyâre discussing a major point in the game. again, youâre the one telling people to shut up therefore youâre forcing your opinion down their throats.Â
No actually. That wasnât for the essays at all but for people who, like you, canât handle opinions that donât match their own.
Essay posting on the daily is something I do for fun so trust me not the essays lmao.
I will shove, by hand if I have to, to respect a peer youâre right about that.
None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
Those âwordsâ all mean âloverâ and uh, Cloud and Aerith go on two dates together in the original game. Cloud tells Aerith that HEâS there for her. They have a marriage prediction. Cloud tells Sephiroth that he doesnât care if the Planet dies now that Aerith is dead. And Cloud says he wants to be with Aerith in the Promised Land.
Connect the dots between those things and you get âloversâ. Fans denied what all of this meant, but Nojima confirmed that all of their interactions were that of lovers. Therefore, Clerith is canon. You interpreted the game incorrectly. Your bias led you to falsely believe that everything you saw between Cloud and Aerith wasnât romantic, when in fact, it was. Now Nojimaâs novel confirms that.
Not to mention, the original game advertised Cloud and Aerith as a âstory of a loveâ
Amano did all this:
I will say this, however, that the LTD will probably equal it out. Clerith in the original game, cloti in the âpresentâ, finished off by clerith as endgame.But this is just speculation on my part. The only facts we have are that Cloud and Aerith are lovers and thatâs it. Â
You can call them facts all you want. Any ship within FFVII is optional regardless of how itâs advertised. Each dynamic homes itâs own potential and that is up to the fan to decide which they like and prefer. Let me repeat: itâs up to the fan to decide which they prefer.
Not shove anything down anybody elseâs throats merely because they lack the ability to see that not everybody will agree with what they see. You feel?
Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie. Which I ship. Cloud goes on a date with Tifa. Which I also ship. Cloud goes on a date with Barret as well. Which surprise surprise I also can ship. Your absurd accusation that my interpretation of the game is incorrect only because I say any dynamic could have been a thing is humorous to say the least. The dates are dependent on the player whoâs in control of Cloud. All of that is optional. Iâm an Amano Stan so Iâm all too aware of the work. Art does many things and shall always be beautiful but that does little for your case. I donât shame you for your ship. Heck I ship them as well, but never considered them canon. None of the ships. Because, again, in the original game, how the characters responded to you was dependent on the bias of the player.
Just because you see a post thatâs saying some ship is canon, that doesnât mean anyone is shoving it down your throat.Â
And you can repeat your opinion all you want, itâs still your opinion. Regardless of how YOU play the game, Nojima declared Cloud and Aerith as lovers. He obliterated any optionality to Clerith by calling them lovers.Â
Thatâs a fact. Â
Youâre the only one whoâs engaged on my post. This isnât /just/ about the canon aspect of things, or that I have a problem with any ship because I can ship pretty much anything and everything with the right amount of interaction, but for the people who do actually do such things. People who canât handle opinions that donât match theirs. Who berrate others only because they have a different opinion than they do. Who go out of their way to bother others which in turn only manage to make clowns of themselves. That is also fact. Itâs for those who canât grow up.
None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
Those âwordsâ all mean âloverâ and uh, Cloud and Aerith go on two dates together in the original game. Cloud tells Aerith that HEâS there for her. They have a marriage prediction. Cloud tells Sephiroth that he doesnât care if the Planet dies now that Aerith is dead. And Cloud says he wants to be with Aerith in the Promised Land.
Connect the dots between those things and you get âloversâ. Fans denied what all of this meant, but Nojima confirmed that all of their interactions were that of lovers. Therefore, Clerith is canon. You interpreted the game incorrectly. Your bias led you to falsely believe that everything you saw between Cloud and Aerith wasnât romantic, when in fact, it was. Now Nojimaâs novel confirms that.
Not to mention, the original game advertised Cloud and Aerith as a âstory of a loveâ
Amano did all this:
I will say this, however, that the LTD will probably equal it out. Clerith in the original game, cloti in the âpresentâ, finished off by clerith as endgame.But this is just speculation on my part. The only facts we have are that Cloud and Aerith are lovers and thatâs it. Â
You can call them facts all you want. Any ship within FFVII is optional regardless of how itâs advertised. Each dynamic homes itâs own potential and that is up to the fan to decide which they like and prefer. Let me repeat: itâs up to the fan to decide which they prefer.
Not shove anything down anybody elseâs throats merely because they lack the ability to see that not everybody will agree with what they see. You feel?
Cloud goes on a date with Yuffie. Which I ship. Cloud goes on a date with Tifa. Which I also ship. Cloud goes on a date with Barret as well. Which surprise surprise I also can ship. Your absurd accusation that my interpretation of the game is incorrect only because I say any dynamic could have been a thing is humorous to say the least. The dates are dependent on the player whoâs in control of Cloud. All of that is optional. Iâm an Amano Stan so Iâm all too aware of the work. Art does many things and shall always be beautiful but that does little for your case. I donât shame you for your ship. Heck I ship them as well, but never considered them canon. None of the ships. Because, again, in the original game, how the characters responded to you was dependent on the bias of the player.
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None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
then explain those?
Yes those are called letters. They form what we know to be as âwordsâ on blank pieces of paper.
Whereâs the OG in game material in which he tells anybody at all that he loves them. Those big three words? Yeah nowhere. Wild I know. How easy this can be dealt with.
None of the couples are canon. There shut up. Ship what you want to ship and leave everybody else alone. Simple, easy, not that complicated.
                              Alright, everyone.                          Itâs no use thinking about it.                         Weâll leave all our worries here.                             Letâs go home proud.
Cloud Strife.
Alright, everyone, letâs mosey.
There ainât no gettinâ offa this train weâre on!
me, after buying things for myself and trying not to feel guilty about it: *through gritted teeth* s-self care
Gentle reminder that Aerithâs life and decision making didnât revolve all around Cloud. Thanks for coming to my TED talk please continue on with your hopefully wonderful day.
Good talk. 10/10. Would recommend to Aerith fans everywhere.
A little louder for the people in the back.
Absolutely no one raises an eyebrow when CC made everything Aerith was because of Zack.Â
Aerith selling flowers, Zackâs idea.
Aerithâs iconic outfit, Zackâs idea.Â
Aerithâs ribbon, Zackâs idea.Â
Aerithâs Umbrella weapon, Zackâs idea.
CC stripped Aerith of any individuality and stripped her of the personality that she was loved for and yet every person (jk: itâs just the Tifa and Zack fanboys) in the fandom props up CC like itâs a something amazing. Nearly the entire fandom adores Zerith (which is abusive). No one ever talks bad about how Aerithâs character was made to revolve around Zack in CC.Â
But the MOMENT clerith fans mention how Aerithâs main âdriveâ to save the world was for Cloud (because she loves him), everyone suddenly âlovesâ Aerith and hates that she ârevolves around Cloud.â
But they have no problem with CC?
Girl, bye.
Aerith did two selfless things for Cloud, that was going to handle Sephiroth on her own so he could focus on himself. And the second was when she hesitated about going off to pray for Holy, she thought of Cloud and pulled through. These are facts that you antis are going to have to cope with.
Iâve been an Aerith fan for nearly my whole life, you can miss me with the backhandedly manipulation-attempt to make clerith fans feel like theyâre doing a disservice to Aerithâs character just because we actually acknowledge a canon fact like her dying for Cloud.Â
Her dying for Cloud doesnât mean everything she does revolves around Cloud, either. It just pisses you off that she loved him so much that she was willing to die to protect him. Sheâs still her sassy, independent, GIRL POWER-self.Â
And @imacetra youâre not a clerith so donât even act like you are. You reblogged theycallmeeljeffe
So donât sit here trying to tell REAL Aerith fans what qualifies as âpro Aerithâ.
Iâm so god damn tired of this crap. Just leave us alone. Go focus on your boring ships and your boring characters. Stop trying to change who Aerith is just because you donât like what it ultimately means for the ship wars.
EXCUSE me???
When have I ever tried to say that I was a Clerith shipper? I couldnât care less about that ship. You can ship what you want, dude, but the second you claim that I hate Aerith, my favorite character in the history of anything, thatâs when you get on my bad side. Something you seem to be forgetting is that Iâve talked about how bad CC is time and time again. Ask anyone I talk about it with and theyâll agree that I point out how bad it is.
The only problem I have with Clerith is that some (not all) of the people who ship it try to cram it down everyoneâs throats. Yet just because I didnât point out the shitty things about Zerith (which I have absolutely no interest in anymore, but I wonât bash on it), Iâm an awful person that hates Aerith.
I donât like Clerith. I never will. Because itâs just not my ship. Even if the remake decides to make it canon, I still wonât like it. Iâve NEVER tried to bad mouth you or your ship. Any time I mentioned Clerith, I mentioned Cloti too. And on this in particular post, the ship wasnât even mentioned. Sure, it was implied that we were talking about Clerith, but there are people who donât ship Clerith that still think Aerith only sacrificed herself for Cloud.
And even if we WERE talking shit on Clerith, nobody TAGGED it as anti-Clerith or pro-Zerith. We only talked about how Aerith doesnât revolve around Cloud OR Zack.
I agree with you about CC, however. Aerith was reduced to a helpless saint, and she wasnât allowed to be her own person. It was fucking awful. Iâm confused about the whole âZerith is abusiveâ view you have though. And whereâs your evidence that most of the fandom adores Zerith? Because I looked through the Zerith tag, and then the Clerith one. It took me WAYYYYYYYYYYY longer to get through the Clerith tag since there was so much content.
As for your claim that âNo one ever talks bad about how Aerithâs character was made to revolve around Zack in CC.â, Iâd like to point out that Iâve made several posts talking about how bad Crisis Core is. And many others have talked about how much the game sucks as well, especially because of how Aerithâs reduced to âo hai zack look flowers o thanks for ribbon protect me plzâ.
Iâm not going to touch the âAerith saved the planet for Cloudâ argument with a fifty foot pole, because after 10+ years of debating with people over that, Iâm fucking done. But everyone suddenly LOVING Aerith, just because a Clerith shipper brought up that argument is so damn inaccurate. Yes, there are idiots who only stand up for Aerith once Clerith is brought up, but everyone who reblogged this post reblogged it because they genuinely like Aerith. So before you start making accusations, clamp your mouth shut and take a look at who youâre talking about. Because I love Aerith with ALL my heart and soul. Take a look at these posts if you arenât convinced. Or for that matter, look at the tags on Aerith reblogs, because 99% of them talk about how much I love Aerith, or how beautiful she is. If it doesnât talk about that, it sure as hell isnât hating on her.
-Â âAerith and Tifa donât exist just to be comparedâ -Â An Entire Essay Defending Aerith - Me talking about how much I love Aerith
âAerith did two selfless things for Cloud, that was going to handle Sephiroth on her own so he could focus on himself. And the second was when she hesitated about going off to pray for Holy, she thought of Cloud and pulled through. These are facts that you antis are going to have to cope with.â
Even if I WERE a Clerith shipper - which I am not, and never will be - Iâd disagree with this. Aerith went to take Sephiroth on yes, to help Cloud, but mainly because the planet was in danger. âItâs only a matter of time before Sephiroth uses Meteor.â âThatâs why Iâm going to protect it. Only a survivor of the Cetra, like me, can do it.â It was her duty as a Cetra. Nobody else could have done it. Secondly, when did she hesitate to use Holy? When? And again, Iâm not questioning this because I donât ship Cloud and Aerith. Iâm questioning this because Aerith didnât belong to or exist solely for one person. Not Zack, not Cloud, not Tifa, not ANYONE. She had amazing relationships with all of her friends, but she her existence didnât revolve around any of them.
âIâve been an Aerith fan for nearly my whole life, you can miss me with the backhandedly manipulation-attempt to make clerith fans feel like theyâre doing a disservice to Aerithâs character just because we actually acknowledge a canon fact like her dying for Cloud.â Yes, because if someone doesnât ship Clerith, itâs their mission in life to manipulate Clerith fans into feeling bad. Like I said before. Nobody in this thread said this was anti-Clerith, or tagged it that way. Youâre the one who made things aggressive by accusing people of random shit. And by the way, whereâs your proof that Aerith died solely for Cloud? Because even if it IS canon, and your ship is supposedly confirmed, that doesnât mean nobody can have different ships. This may surprise you, but ships arenât automatically loved if they become canon.
âAnd @imacetra youâre not a clerith so donât even act like you are. You reblogged theycallmeeljeffeâ
Youâre right, sweetheart. Iâm not a Clerith. Never have been, never wanted to be, never claimed or acted like I was. Itâs cute that you think being a Clerith shipper is the big holy goal every FFVII fan should aspire to achieve though.
My dude, shipping Clerith doesnât automatically mean youâre Pro-Aerith. Iâve been Pro-Aerith ever since I joined this fandom. Over 12 years ago. But I donât ship Clerith. Get over yourself. Your response to this was annoying enough without you trying to draw a line in the sand and say who is and who isnât a ârealâ Aerith fan. That was a real low blow.
âIâm so god damn tired of this crap. Just leave us alone. Go focus on your boring ships and your boring characters. Stop trying to change who Aerith is just because you donât like what it ultimately means for the ship wars.â
Iâm tired of this crap too, man. But something YOU need to realize, something you need to get through your head, is that YOU made this thread into an argument. You turned this into a negative thing. The OP was talking about how Aerith is her own person. Not âoh clerith sucksâ, but âHey, Aerithâs existence doesnât revolve around Cloud.â People have added to it and said that Zerith shippers need to look at this as well, because Aerith doesnât belong to Zack either. Youâre the one who made this about Clerith. Youâre the one who needs to leave us alone. We didnât call you out, we didnât call your ship out, we said that Aerith is her own person. So how about you back off? We arenât trying to change who Aerith is. The only one trying to change ANYTHING is you, with your wails of âIâve been ATTACKEDâ.
Every single part of me wants to message you a million awful things, and yell at you, and block you, but Iâm not going to do that.
You questioned my love for something that I hold right next to my heart. And thatâs just a dick move. Ship what you want, but donât try to make claims about that shit. If you love Aerith half as much as I do, you understand how someone claiming you HATE her is hurtful.
How about you leave me alone?
Youâre sick of people bad-mouthing Clerith, yet you go and call our ships boring, and call Zerith âabusiveâ. If I said Clerith was boring, youâd be all over me. So stop being a hypocrite.
I donât like Clerith, Cloti, or Zerith. But Iâm not going to start bashing on them.
If I say that my ships are superior, thatâs my opinion. You have your opinion that YOUR ship is superior, so donât try to make me look like a dick just because you donât agree.
You stay in over there in Clerith Town and let other shippers be, and no one will bother you, okay? Because weâre all sick of this pointless fucking bickering over who Cloud or Aerith should be with. Unless someone outright says âClerith is disgusting and the worstâ, then let people have their own damn opinions.
I hope you donât come back at me with some nasty accusation or comment. I hope you just let this go.
Because that would be the mature thing to do.
Hi. Iâm the OP of this post. Iâm not gonna tag anybody because Iâm tired(tm) from a long 16 hour shift day at work. But I will get some things through here as someone who made the post.
1. Just because I mentioned Cloudâs name it wasnât a direct attack on the ship. 2. Chill out astoryofalove I forgot your url nobodyâs dying. 3. My post wasnât about a ship. lmao.
Iâm not going to write an extensive essay of my case cause trust me I typed this up I know what my intention was. Stop making everything about clerith Shanon, chill. Because it isnât. I actually had a lot of eyebrow raises for CC but the theme for that game was legacy, how someone whoâs gone can leave a huge impact behind and ripple into future events. Though the methods and things in it were not my tea either I still found the game enjoyable and dynamic between protagonists pretty nice.
 Aeris wasnât some sacrificial lamb sorry, not to me. That girl had stuff she wanted to do, places she wanted to go, people she wanted to meet/get close to, move into the future. But I respect your interpretation of the game.
Keep your petty ship discourse warm up starters off my I love this character so much posts thanks. And have a good day.
if thereâs anything iâm learning this week is that i really do deserve to be alone and oddly enough it doesnât bother me too much since iâve come to terms with that a long ass while ago