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neil abram josten everybody

#aftg #neil josten #saw a pic of the deer in sniper target tattoo and had a revelation #also the deer in headlights is definitely a reference to neil freezing up in the thanksgiving scene #im just not evil enough to put those quotes in the collage LOL #web weaving

don’t think katelyn and neil are similar or close to each other but I DO think that neil is one of the more…polite foxes towards her and he finds some of her habits to be mildly endearing so she is more likely to go hangout with him if aaron leaves her alone at a fox gathering

#if andrew isn’t nearby of course LOL #but yeah I can see her chatting with neil and neil just being like ‘why are you like this 🤔’ in a fun way #she also finds him funny. this is very important to me #she does in fact think he’s unsettling but occasionally he’ll say something and she is ALSO like #‘what is wrong with you 🤔’#aaron and andrew both despise this dynamic. aaron has tried to convince kate not to interact with neil on several occasions #andrew has never said anything to neil about it because…neil would not take that well LMAOO #aftg #neil josten #katelyn mackenzie

neil and jean but it’s the painting of judith slaying holofernes

#now is holofernes in this scenario riko or grayson.#aftg #neil josten #jean moreau

jeanneil canon in the way that both andrew and jeremy don’t want to get involved in whatever is going on between the two of them

#aftg #neil josten #jean moreau

sunnyoclock

Cringey 2000s kids

would andrew be the type to take a lot of photos? i feel like yes (neils a pipe dream after all)

#NEIL OF ALL TIME #HES SO CUTR WHAT THR HELL

lillapillas

Neil hadn’t been kissed in four years

ACTUALLY planning a long term fic based off the one extra content post about neil’s pre-foxes friend bethany

#I’m subjecting a normal girl to the Horrors (ur best friend is being hunted by the mob)#aftg

I got very curious when you mentioned that there's a difference between Nathan and Riko in Neil's mind and that it could affect his perception of bravery. What are your thoughts on this? And what are your thoughts on Neil calling Kevin a coward when before that he was relating to Kevin's fear and underestanding it? It's an interesting moment to analyse and I'd be very grateful for your opinion. I've seen many different takes and still figuring out my own thoughts on it.

oh yeah for sure!

my general opinion on the difference between riko and nathan is 1. nathan is so violently evil even riko is implied to have been scared of nathan at one point. neil isn't as intimidated by riko because of growing up with nathan (that is not to say there's no reason to be afraid of riko!). Riko does not pose a threat of direct death like nathan does. so neil is going to consider riko less of a threat.

The other part of my opinion, focusing on why neil considers kevin a coward at some points, is how kevin reacts to riko vs how neil (and mary) reacted to nathan.

something that gets glossed over when discussing neil's time on the run is that he blatantly states part of why him and mary didn't "make friends" is to keep other people from getting caught in the crossfire. kevin on the other hand, while I completely sympathize with him, does kinda throw people under the bus to keep distance between him and riko. and to neil, who views riko as a childish imitation of nathan, this is something cowardly.

now through all this neil still has so much sympathy for kevin he sticks his own neck out when seeing how afraid he is of riko, so I think some people are too harsh on the "coward" usage by him, but I think the dynamic is interesting.

#aftg #neil josten #kevin day #this is not kevin hate please do not jump me #I can already see this getting dragged on twitter lol

what's neil josten's theme song and why is it when I'm small by phantogram

#it sounds like someone hiding after being chased down in the woods #which i think is very fitting for him lol #also the “I'd rather die than be with you” part?????? christmas at evermore core #aftg #neil josten

laurasauras

the thing about neil always saying that he's fine is that he's not hearing the same question that other people are asking him. he grew up not only on the run but in such a way that people were constantly on the very edge of catching him! "i'm fine" means yeah i was shot but my legs still work and i can make it to the car. "i'm fine" means i'm in a lot of pain but i won't scream and give our position away.

"i'm fine" means "i can do what is needed of me without failing you", it means "don't worry about me". there were other priorities. neil saying he's not okay is him saying that he needs help.

i think mary would have dropped everything if he said he wasn't okay, because she taught neil to fucking mean it if he did.

#fully agree with this #everyone's jumping on him but he's. not actually lying #if he says “im not okay” you need to get him to a hospital

viiiiiliiiii

Neil, who grew up in a constant state of fear and witnessed the most refined forms of cruelty and murder, still clapped trembling hands over his mouth when Nathan was killed, fighting to smother the hoarse cry clawing its way out of his throat.

#so not canon but I do like to imagine that there were tiny tiny little moments where nathan was like. decent to neil. maybe it always had a #murderous undertone but just the occasional ruffle of hair or explaining what a word meant #not saying I think that's why this scene happened but it would be so interesting for neil to think back on a somewhat good memory #or just a neutral one and it be with nathan #like a “oh yeah I had to always get help getting ___ off the shelf as a kid lol” “oh who helped you?” “my fath- hm. hmmm.”

neil josten my biracial baddie

#TO ME. to me. he is south asian + black on mary's side and then polish on the bastard's (nathan)#him and thea are chill immediately after meeting cause she clocks his ass #aftg #neil josten

perception-filter

(petting you gently and whispering in your ear) you’re so fucked. it’s over for you

#andrew

clementinecloudz

Hes me. I haven't hit REM sleep in weeks and I was asleep good this time, these BASTARDS of classmates come knocking in MY DOOR??? "Can I borrow this!?" Girl you can borrow my credit card if you dont contact me again. Daddys is tired.

#the caption to me is neil in book 1 getting woken up for night practices

in case anyone's interested here's my neil josten playlist

#aftg #neil josten

s-hanna-h

sad times

#GUH

I think neil and andrew create a buzzfeed unsolved-esque true crime podcast where they create the most batshit theories and then hate on the police for an hour

#for the podcast's anniversary they do an episode on theories about the butcher #one of them is a post thar just says “the butcher= slenderman” and neil can't stop laughing for 20 minutes #(its the closest the viewers get to seeing andrew laugh via putting his head in his hands)#aftg #andreil #neil josten #andrew minyard

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