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Who is the Eliatrope Goddess's lover?

I seriously don't know what's going on with the wakfu team anymore. But especially with Tot.

Just when we thought we perfectly knew who the father of the eliatropes was, suddenly Tot comes barging in and flips everything upside down in his way. It's as if he expects us all to get used to this new additional detail that he added not too long ago and wants to see just how far he can go with screwing up THE LORE OF THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE KROSMOZ'S CREATION.

If you don't know what happened, let me summarize it in one line for you:

In a short clip of an interview, Tot mentions that the Great Dragon is NOT the father of Yugo and his siblings.

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the fuck you mean he ain't the dad?

I don't think you realize just how massive this claim of his actually is. Like we're talking about ASTRONOMICALLY HUGE HERE.

You mean to tell me that the very same little tale I've been growing up with, the tale about how THE FREAKING KROSMOZ WAS CREATED, the Eliatrope goddess and the Great Dragon dancing together to make the Krosmoz and their children, WAS NOT TRUE!!?!?!?!?!?!?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GREAT DRAGON IS NOT THEIR BIOLOGICAL FATHER!?!??!!? WE LITERALLY SAW HIM DANCING WITH HER EVERYWHERE!!!!!

It took one interview...one interview from season 4 to see that what we've been growing with wasn't canon.

Or at least not canon to Tot!

He once mentioned in this other interview that when it comes to the lore of the Krosmoz, he focuses primarily on the relationships between the characters rather than the lore. He cares less about the actual worldbuilding and more about the topic of family.

Due to his disinterest for the worldbuilding, there's a huge chance he's wrong to claim that the Great Dragon is not the father. Even if he's one of Ankama's founders, that doesn't mean he's got everything figured out.

Not to mention that he even said in that very same interview that the Eliatrope goddess's flashback in season 4 with the other gods and the Great Dragon was a canon scene because he wanted to do more scenes that confirmed told events in the past.

So...which is it, Tot??

You're saying that the Great Dragon's dance with the Eliatrope goddess, SEEN IN SEASON 4, was canon but not the fact that he's the father of the eliatropes...???

Of course, saying that the Great Dragon is not the father only creates even more loopholes and inconsistencies in the lore.

Because of this frustrating issue that Tot has created for us (and, let's be honest here, on himself too), we need to gather everything we know about this situation, what works and what doesn't.

So let's see if taking out the Great Dragon from the family tree makes the slightest sense or not.

To do that, I divided the topic into three categories:

1. What we know about the Great Dragon.

2. Proof that the Great Dragon is the father.

3. Proof that the unnamed lover is the father.

I figured we could start with clearing out everything we know about the Great Dragon first before we move to the newest guy.

1. What we know about the Great Dragon.

We have been told numerous times that the universe was created by the goddess Eliatrope and the Great Dragon. They danced together, which resulted in the formation of the entire Krosmoz.

We know that when someone is capable of reciprocating genuine, pure love to a dragon, that dragon can produce a Dofus out of their love. The Great Dragon is known as the dragon of all dragons, which implies that the effect of pure love also occurred between the Eliatrope goddess and him, since their partnership had clearly been necessary to create the world while balancing Wakfu and Stasis.

It also made sense for the Great Dragon and the Goddess to produce more than just one dofus because they are the living embodiments of life and death itself. So to create the dofus, they would have to create the world first.

2. Proof that the Great Dragon is the father.

We have been told time and time again that the Great Goddess created the Krosmoz with the Great Dragon. We've seen them together in covers and even received a complete presentation on their current status.

Just look at this!! It explains word for word on which spectrum they stand on, being on complete opposite sides, as well as what location or realm belongs to them.

WE EVEN SAW THEM DANCE TOGETHER TO MAKE THE ELIATROPES LIKE-

How is he not the father!??!!?

This constant retelling of this cosmic dance was so repetitive and iconic that it just ingrained in our heads now, and we can't throw it out anymore for some mindless statement made by Tot in some random interview.

3. Proof that the unnamed lover is the father.

THE PROBLEM HERE, AS WE'VE SAID, is that Tot could have retconned the eliatropes from knowing who their father is.

In the Great Wave volume 2, Grougalorasalar says that he knows who Yugo and Adamai's father is but won't tell them his name.

Adamai looks just as curious as Yugo when he clearly used static in Season 1. And with the fact that he's been raised by Grougaloragran, we would immediately assume that he would know far more about their past than Yugo. But...that doesn't seem like that's the case here?

You'd think that having an eliatrope and a dragon as siblings wouldn't make you conclude that their father is the Great Dragon. But no. Apparently, this is not the path that we're taking for this. Apparently, the Great Dragon is not their father. Which means even Grougaloragran didn't know who their father was at such an old age. Given that Tot had declared that the Great Dragon wasn't their father in an interview and how Adamai did not retort back to Grougalorasalar, then the Great Dragon is strangely not the father. Even though Adamai and the rest of his dragon siblings are dragons. But okay.

So for the sake of the topic, let's say that the father is not the Great Dragon.

We've also learned from Grougalorasalar that the reason why we've never seen the Eliatrope goddess's lover was because he too had been imprisoned and taken away from her.

His disappearance could explain why we have never seen or heard about him before.

The only three people we know who might have seen him at least once in their lives were Qilby, Shinonome, and Nora.

Qilby and Shinonome, because they never forget their past lives. And I say Nora because she had been able to free her mother from the necromes with Efrim before joining her in the Inglorium to see her get rid of the gods, freeing her lover in the process. Efrim couldn't have known who their father was because he had been imprisoned by the necromes at that time.

In short, all we know about this unnamed lover is that he did not dance with the Eliatrope goddess, is powerful, can fight for himself, got imprisoned by the other gods to teach the Eliatrope goddess a lesson, unleashed his rage on the other gods, and managed to escape who knows where.

But when it comes to his character, we absolutely have nothing about him. We have only heard things about him. We haven't seen his face, heard his voice, what his personality is like, or even what his abilities are.

One thing we can contemplate more thoroughly, however, is comparing him to the Great Dragon.

Tot's claim that the Great Dragon wasn't the father suggests he wasn't present with the Eliatrope Goddess to create them. Unless...Tot meant he wasn't suitable father material.

He bluntly says in French that he's not part of the family, which did turn lots of heads around (including mine cuz again wtf-) but let's see what he meant by that. After all, plenty of fathers don't take care of their children in real life and leave it to the mothers.

Given this new point of view and how we still don't have enough information about the lover, I decided to theorize a bit in order to fill out some holes in this mess.

And honestly, I believe this could work.

It would make sense as to why the Goddess never talks about the Great Dragon. She never even mentions him or implies anything about him. She just makes it seem like the Great Dragon was never there in the first place.

I'm throwing this out in the open just because I think it could work: It's possible that the reason why the Great Dragon and the Goddess managed to make the Krosmoz and the eliatrope dofus together was out of necessity.

The first time it happened, they were surrounded by nothing. There were no planets, no stasis, no wakfu, no living entity besides them. One of them, or both of them, sympathized with each other's loneliness and decided to dance together to make something out of this empty void. The reason why it worked and they came up with the Krosmoz, was because they danced together of their own volition. They both wanted this and sympathized with each other because they had no one else to turn to at the time.

So if the Great Dragon is really not the Goddess's lover, that would mean that the Krosmoz had been created by a mutual agreement rather than by pure love.

The second time the dance happened was for the eliatrope dofus. This time, we know the Great Dragon didn't have to dance with her because he didn't necessarily love her, he just understood her.

Therefore, he might have helped her gain children because he felt like he owed her for giving him life around him. She did create the Krosmoz with him after all, so it's only fair that she gets to have what she wants in the world that they made together.

Because their relationship may be transactional at its very core, the connection between them worked once again, and the Goddess was able to have the children that she wanted.

All in all, with every scene that the Goddess has been in and the clues and hints of her and what the Great Dragon's interactions might have looked like, they seem to have been in an open relationship in my opinion. And there's something definitely weird about the Goddess of all people behaving this way.

But it's been over a million years since she has seen him, so we can't help but question what their relationship is supposed to be. Was this just a transactional relationship? Is this how they came to create the world and her children together?

When it comes to this theory, I think I do. Because it all comes down to the Great Dragon's frequent departures and comings.

He is notably absent at the beginning of her creation of the Krosmoz, seemingly having left her. In season 4, during her flashback, we see him return to help her create the Eliatrope race. This lends some credence to my theory that they were in an open relationship. His departure and return suggest a dynamic where he is fine with coming back only when she needs something. They danced together and forged the Dofus, but as soon as she achieved what she wanted, the Great Dragon left her again. Their relationship might indeed be quite open after all.

So in short, here's what we've got so far.

Proof that the Great Dragon is her lover:

1. When someone holds pure reciprocated love for a dragon, they always end up making a dofus. In this case, the Great Dragon and Great Goddess have danced TWO TIMES. To make anything at all, these two held pure love for each other.

2. He disappears and leaves the Great Goddess after the creation of the Krosmoz. In season 4, during her flashback, we see him return to help her create the Eliatrope race. 3. These eliatrope dofus don't just each have a dragon inside it, but eliatropes too.

Proof that the Great Dragon is not her lover:

1. Tot claimed that the Great Dragon was not the father in an interview.

2. Adamaï didn't seem like he knew who his and Yugo's father was when Grougalorasalar claimed he knew the truth. Adamai should have known who his father was because he had been taught his history by Grougaloragran.

3. The Great Dragon and the Eliatrope goddess likely had a transactional relationship, which may explain why they only interact when the Great Goddess wants to create something that requires the Great Dragon's assistance.

4. Their so-called pure love for each other was made out of understanding and sympathy for one another, which is why their dances always worked. They found a loophole in the rules of creation.

All in all, as much as I might believe my theory to make some kind of sense, I'm still very skeptical of this entire topic.

It's possible that Tot retracted his statement shortly after that small clip of the interview was released because a colleague pointed out his mistake. Tot has made errors in the past and has needed assistance with certain parts of the story due to the vastness of the Krosmoz lore. This potential mistake might mean that he only retconned the part where Yugo and Adamaï do not know that the Great Dragon is their father, rather than being unaware that some new character is their father.

Both sides are possible at this point.

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