#*loras tyrell

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

What do you think of Loras' portrayal in the movies, and as a book character? I'm sorry if you've answered this before, I didn't find his name in the FAQ and am going through your blog right now

Hi!

You mean the actor’s portrayal, right? You are right there’s no tag for Loras, but there’s one for Finn Jones and his portrayal as Loras.

I’m not really attached to the Tyrells as a House, except for some rare and exceptional exceptions (Olenna!), but I do find show!Margaery a lot more interesting. At least when her story is brought up to the forefront and when Natalie’s acting is on point, the character wins more than it loses with the adaptation. But in general the Tyrells were nothing I was concerned about, and Loras happens to fall in there too. I don’t find Book!Loras that great, but obviously the character (in the books) is a lot more interesting and actually has more depth even when in the show it has more notoriety, I would say. It probably comes down to the “subtlety issue” the show has. On the show the character is basically there to be a cliche and a source for many unfunny, tired and stereotypical gay jokes, while in the books the character has more back story, even if minimal, and it’s admirable certain lines he has that remind us about his relationship with Renly and where his alliance was. Show!Loras suffers from really bad writing and pretty bad acting. Combination that kills the chances of ever becoming what the character was supposed to be.

Thanks!

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

this is really random, but do you think we'll get more gay scenes? i was so shocked with that loras scene in the third season, i never thought they would go out of their way to display gay scenes that weren't in the book.

Anything that has to do with nudity and sex scenes will be expanded more and more till there’s no difference between this show and James Deen’s GOT porn parody, I predict. XD

I was surprised too. I’m fine if they add more of those scenes, as long as they make some sense in the story. But I don’t think they’ll have more of those, because they already touched the “Loras is really gay if you haven’t noticed” moments in season 3. If they knew how to make subtlety, then they would have better chances in adding more of those scenes, without turning the character into a cliche.

Thanks!

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

Hello there! I love your blog, been reading it for a long time and I came to think to write a message after seeing this snippet on youtube: youtube.c om/watch?v=-m1-xPObOLk It really makes me sad that they chose to cut this out. It explains both characters so much in my opinion, and it gives Finn Jones a chance to do a good performance aswell. His crying in the end just makes my heart cringe. Lots of love! -M

Hi M!

I liked that scene, but I do get why they cut it. Marg and Loras are secondary characters to Renly’s storyline in season 2, so after he’s gone there’s no purpose in wasting screentime with them. Though yeah, this scene would have suited the show better than any nude/sex scene. It does explain both characters, and I think that was the first time after season 2 that I felt Natalie Dormer could do something good with her role. Her performance in that scene was better than any scene in the entire season 2. Now, Jones’ performance was a little better, but in general I just don’t like it. Even in that scene his sorrow is expressed through a frowny face and a pout. I do think he was slightly better, but overall, I just don't feel that's worth of praise.

Thanks!

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

I hate that Loras is a gay stereotype. Not only does he sleep around with anyone but he has extensive knowledge of fashion, dresses, jewelry and is excited about wedding festivities. I get it. Loras and Renly are gay. They don't need to hit me on the head with it EVERY FUCKING EPISODE. What do you think??

Hi anon.

Yes, I agree. I was not bothered by him sleeping with the male prostitute, because I didn’t feel it was done as a “stereotype”. But, now I can see it is actually being presented as a stereotype.

Added to the list of “worst changes”!

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[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

I hate how many characters the recent episode has butchered. So Jorah and Barristan are BFFs. Robb Stark is a bullheaded idiot who ignores the advice of his family. Loras is totes over Renly and is now a stereotypical gay slut. Gendry has romantic interest in Arya. Selyse is a crazy Lysa 2.0. Jon Snow has no regrets of sleeping with Ygritte cause YOLO. Ugh...

(Some book spoilers)

Hi anon.

Well I guess the Barristan-Jorah “friendship” is not a big deal. I mean they are setting up the future confession Barristan will make about Jorah, so I guess it is a good way to set a certain situation between the two, in which they are both faking and waiting to see what happens. Neither of them trusts the other. So, it is good for them to have a conversation about it. I personally liked it.

Robb looks like an idiot cause they haven’t used the same reasoning, and deliberating on his decisions book!Robb had. His mother was one of his biggest advisors, and those advices have gone down the drain with the character itself. It’s a disaster really.

Like I said in another ask, I don’t think they went for the “gay slut” stereotype, or maybe that’s not how I saw it. The show hasn’t set up the relationship between Renly and Loras in the same terms as on the books, so I guess it was ok for him to move on. Idk. It wasn’t such a big deal for me. But I get many people got pissed off at that.

I don’t think Gendry has a romantic interest with Arya. Gendry simply tried to make her understand her social situation is quite different from his, and even if he’s protected by her, he will never stop being “someone in service of others”. He wouldn’t be friends with her, he would be one of her employees, a simple commoner. That’s why he said “you’d be M´Lady”.

Selyse is a huge writing and adaptation problem. And I don’t even think Lysa was that crazy.

Lol yes, so far Jon is living the high life. Will see what happens when he comes out of the cave, and if he starts or not thinking about his vows.

Thanks.

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

I'm so happy my ask got to be your icon! What did you think about them making Loras an easy slut that tells everything to anyone, thus ruining the Tyrell's plans to wed Sansa to him?

Hi anon.

Well I don’t think he’s a slut for sleeping with someone else. I mean if what they were going for was that Loras was horny and would do it with anyone, then yeah it bothers me. But, on the other hand, I don’t think him sleeping with someone else, means that he didn’t love Renly. And it is appropriate to notice the show didn’t make the relationship that meaningful between the characters like it was in the books, so I guess is not even that much of a big deal anyway. Or at least it is not for me.

Now, him trusting his family’s future plans with some dude, yes it’s incredible stupid of him. Then again his grandma said he wasn’t the brightest cookie out there…

Thanks. And loved the where are my actin’ skillz?! lol

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

Do you think the show will eventually add at least Garlan Tyrell? I don't think we will see Marg's cousins, but IMO it would be a pity if they decided to only have Loras, who is by far the less interesting sibling, to play Garlan's part as well. I know it makes sense because the cast is very big and that way they can concentrate several characters into one, but I was really looking forward to see Garlan and I don't want his character to disappear from the show.

Hi anon.

I don’t think Garlan will be included. Most the Tyrells are not big players, so I doubt we’ll get to see more than just Loras, Marg and Olenna. We might see Mace at some point (there are no news about casting the role).

Exploring the High Garden story might not give them a lot of substance for the show. And considering there’s only 10 episodes to show everything, they might end up giving different uses to Loras.

I think they are only going to stick to mentioning the characters, but are not gonna include them and make them participants.

Thanks

[the-khaleesi-sucks-at-acting]

sorry if it was asked, but what do you think about Finn Jones's acting (Loras Tyrell)?

Hi anon.

No, I don’t think there have been many asks about his acting. I did though, make a reference about it on the review of the deleted scenes.

He's bad. I think he was able to get away with it for season 1, even though he was not good for that entire season. For season 2, his performance was quite average-to-bad. He’s not convincing and just can’t show emotions in general. The scene of Renly’s funeral was just poor acting.

I really don’t have much to say about it, since he’s just that. I think he can get away with it when there’s not much demanded from him, like on season 1, but season 2 created for him a couple of more complicated scenes to deal with, and it showed that he’s not really prepared.

The deleted scene gave him a bit more space to explore, but he just didn’t do it for me. He was not convincing. Though like I said, I almost liked his crying. But no, at the end, he just doesn’t do it for me. He gave a poor performance. The scene in general was more important for Natalie Dormer, and it showed better her skills, than his.

I think he seems like a really nice and sympathetic guy (from his twitter anyway), but I don't think he can be particularly good in this.

Somehow I never noticed his performance till the Renly's funeral scene came up. And that's when I looked back to his body of work on the show. But somehow never mentioned it here. I can't remember if I did or didn't.

I made a list before about actors who need to improve, and he's one of those. I think I'd modify my top 3 bad acting too:

1- Clarke

2- Simon (Lancel)

3- Jones

Thanks!