#abortion ask

[skygemspeaks]

A note on stupid American abortion laws - in GA (possibly OH and TX, but I'm not sure), travelling out of state to get an abortion or even a consultation about an abortion is also illegal with the new law. It's not that you can't get an abortion in GA. It's that no legal GA resident can get an abortion anywhere, and getting a consultation anywhere is conspiracy to commit.

yea, i’m aware of that

[strawberry-milktea]

tbh im a lil disappointed that you are pro life....

sry but even tho we are mutuals i have to unfollow u bc of all ur opinions im so sry……—No need to apologize, you’re free to follow whomever you wish. I don’t know who you are because you are on anon, so I’m not sure what your intentions were for telling me this.

Losing followers doesn’t cause me to regret speaking up for the defenseless, nor does it make me consider changing my beliefs on the topic of abortion. If people want to unfollow me for this, then that is their decision. There are no hard feelings on my end.

[strawberry-milktea]

You and your beliefs are hateful and disgusting. I hope you will see that soon instead of blindly spouting bullshit under some blatant straw man argument. I'm a devout Catholic of 14 years and biblical study leader, and being gay isn't a sin. Abortion isn't a sin. Last I checked, the Bible strongly encourages loving all those whom do not harm you. Those who hate others for things they can't change, religiously or not, are the worst people in this world.

If you think my beliefs are disgusting, then you are saying God and the Christian faith are disgusting. Believing abortion and engaging in homosexuality are sins is believing what He defined as sin, not me. I’m following what Biblical scripture says, which includes His definitions of sin, because I believe the Bible to be inspired by and from God Himself. Also, show me once where I’ve expressed hatred toward gay people or women who have abortions. Saying you don’t agree with a person’s actions doesn’t mean you automatically hate them.

Saying you are a devout Catholic doesn’t give credibility to the heretical statements you’re expressing here. If you are the devout Catholic/Biblical study leader you’re claiming to be, then you would know what scripture directly says on these matters. If you believe what you’ve said above, then it’s not Christianity or the Christian Bible you are following. To claim the Bible says otherwise means you either don’t read the Bible as you claim or have accepted false teaching from someone else who has removed from/contorted scripture, or possibly both. Your statement about loving others isn’t accurate either - we aren’t commanded to love only those who do us no harm. Jesus told us to love and pray for all, even those who are our enemies who spitefully use and curse us (Luke 6:28). And to add to that, loving someone doesn’t mean lying to them about something dangerous to them.

I’ve gotten a lot of messages on these topics so I won’t get into it here, but if by some chance you wanted to read my asks on these topics, you can find them under my “homosexuality” and “abortion ask” tags.

I have suspicions that your claims are not honest and you’re just saying these things in an attempt to give your anon attack credibility because you take offense to my beliefs. Not that it’s good if that’s what you’re doing, but I think it’s even worse if reality is that you’re truly spreading the false claims that murder and a category of sexual sin aren’t sins while claiming to be a Christian. Doing this while wearing the title of Christian inflicts serious spiritual harm not only on yourself but also on others who you mislead into believing what you say - not to mention making it more difficult for Christians to talk about Christ, the true message of the Gospel, and the concept of sin.

[strawberry-milktea]

But seriously tho, i really wish they would find a 'cure' (effective treatment) against autism.

I wish they would too.. I have heard a lot of people who have it say firsthand how they suffer as a result of autism and I’m sure they would love to have a means of coping with it better on a daily basis or even better, being completely free of the challenges it poses for them.

But referring back to the post I reblogged earlier, the concept of pregnancy screening for autism is very suspicious. It reeks of eugenics, very similar to how Down Syndrome testing during pregnancy is pretty much for the purpose of letting the parents know their child has it so that they can make the decision as to whether or not they want to abort. It’s very sad.

[strawberry-milktea]

Just a heads-up for anyone who saw that "fake clinic" post: I don't like revealing my location on Tumblr but one of those clinics, Alternaterm, is a pro-life clinic located in Ohio and my youth group used to hold fundraisers and give portions of our proceeds to them. They are a wonderful clinic who provide support to women in crisis and in no way are they trying to "shame anyone" out of having an abortion. They do fantastic work in the community. Guys, don't be deceived!

Thank you for sharing..

It’s absolutely terrible that pro-choicers are intentionally smearing these pro-life clinics. If a woman goes to a pro-life clinic and accepts its help, then that’s her decision. In my opinion, this kind of behavior magnifies in a really resounding way that the motivation of the pro-choice movement isn’t really “choice”, but abortion itself. That’s what people mean when they refer to the movement as “pro-abortion”, which is usually met with outcry from pro-choicers and claims that this is false. But really, what else is it? For some reason, it’s personally bothering them that a woman used her “right to choose” to keep her baby and seek alternatives to attain the proper care for both herself and her baby. If they genuinely cared about a woman’s right to choose, they would respect the woman’s decision and not intentionally try to destroy the resources available to her because her choice isn’t what they agree with.

What I find ironic is a major pro-choice myth used in debates is that abortion clinics are necessary because they’re the only help pregnant women can get and that pro-lifers are all talk, don’t actually do anything, don’t actually care about the mother, only care about the baby until it’s born, etc. But here they are actively trying to destroy the very thing they claim doesn’t exist. This isn’t about caring for women and respecting their choices. This is about an agenda to dehumanize and destroy the unborn, and it always has been.

[strawberry-milktea]

If abstinence only education wasn't taught, if actual time was spent to help make the adoption system better, if money was actually allocated to schools and healthcare and things that help families and children, if things (read: birth control) were easier to access, then I might consider outlawing abortion, but currently one of the major parties starting with R has a pro birth stance, not advocating for anything to help with children and family post birth.

I’m not sure what you want me to say to this because the post I reblogged agreed that more should be done to help women who are pregnant and after they give birth. And there are tons of people who make efforts to aid these women with necessary resources and help them realize abortion isn’t the only option.

Do pregnant women and the adoption system need more help? Absolutely. But you can’t use government politics as a scapegoat. First, you don’t need to rely on political involvement to help others. There are many organizations that aren’t involved in politics that reach out pregnant women in need. Second, let’s not act like the Democratic party is some angelic entity because if it was, all these issues would have been magically solved under Democratic presidents who claim so much to care about these issues. Politics has corruption on each side. Politicians on both sides make promises they don’t fulfill and claim to support certain beliefs they don’t actually care about/support. Politicians say a lot of things to gain support and get into office. It’s a well known trick that’s been around since the start of politics.

What I’m gathering from your message is your stance is basically this: “I’m going to support the murder of innocent children because resources could be better to help pregnant women and the adoption system”. That mentality just doesn’t add up in my mind. The fact that you would consider supporting outlawing abortion under certain conditions tells me on some level you know it’s morally unacceptable. Yet because you see flaws in the adoption system and the resources available to pregnant women and have an issue with the Republican Party, you think murder should be legal and the lives of those children who are terminated before they have a chance are inconsequential. That’s like saying because the adoption system is flawed, it should be legal to murder children who are in foster care and can’t find anyone to adopt them - that their murder should only be illegal if the adoption system suddenly becomes ideal and improved. If you can see something wrong with that statement, then you should also see how something is wrong with your stance on abortion.

And also, birth control is more accessible and free than ever before, so I'm not sure what you're talking about with regards to that. Oral contraceptives are largely covered by insurance (even the most basic insurance plans) and there are literally places available where people can obtain free condoms and other forms of contraception. When I was in high school (about 10 years ago now), they instructed us as teenagers exactly where to go to get free condoms if needed. Places like that were readily available 10 years ago, they're even more accessible now.

And yes, abstinence is a valid form of birth control. In fact, it's the only 100% certain way of not becoming pregnant. People have to realize that when they agree to having sex, the risk of pregnancy is always there even with birth control/contraception. If someone can't accept or recognize truth that a baby can result from sex, then that person isn't ready to have sex.

[strawberry-milktea]

you should have been aborted

If this is your reaction to my stating that animals should not be put on the same level as or above human life, then you really need to re-evaluate your understanding of the value of human life. The only person you’ve hurt here is yourself by wishing death upon someone just for making a statement you didn’t like. I wasn’t aborted because my parents were overjoyed when they found out they were pregnant. They knew I was a human being worthy of love and nurturing from the moment of my conception, just like every other human being deserves and should be treated. Even though you’re purposely being malicious to me, I wouldn’t think or wish that you had been aborted. I can still recognize that you have value as a human being despite the fact that you’re intentionally being cruel toward me and felt the need to anonymously attack me for saying something that rubbed you the wrong way.To be honest, initially I was not even going to bother dignifying this with a response because it’s clear your intent is just to be hurtful. But I was thinking and thought it might be something I want to address, because the fact that you could wish someone never existed merely for disagreeing with you and saying human life is valuable/should not be put on the same level or lower than animal life is very unhealthy for several reasons. One, the way you view human life is very troubling. And two, this world is full of people who are going to disagree with you. I’m far from the only one. If you’re going to abuse the anonymous messaging system on Tumblr whenever someone disagrees with you, you’re only going to end up hurting yourself. Many people will not be phased by anon hate and if anyone is hurt by your words, they’ll soon forget them. But if you keep attacking people, it’s going to take a spiritual and emotional toll on you because you’re storing up hatred and bitterness inside of your heart.

[strawberry-milktea]

hello! first of all i want to compliment you on your blog and your willingness to help others understand Christ. it really is super kind of you, and you've helped me also. i do have a concern though. i am strictly pro-life, but am unfortunately the only one in my vast group of irl who is against abortion. i have a dear friend, who i love very much, who bases her beliefs strictly off of science. she advocates abortion because she believes that before a certain point, fetuses aren't human.

(cont.) i think she believes that if the fetus does not have a brain, or a heart, that it is alright to kill it. supposedly the baby can’t feel pain that early on. i’ve spent a while finding strong, solid arguments against abortion, but it’s that one area that i’m a little fuzzy on. would you mind giving your opinion? thank you—Hi! Thank you for your kind words, friend. :) I’m glad to hear I have helped you!Your friend’s argument isn’t based on science. Instead, it seems like she’s determined what constitutes “life” based on her own definitions, not those of science. Addressing your friend’s argument about pain, life and humanity is not based on a person’s ability to feel pain. You won’t find any biological evidence to support the notion that pain determines human life. If that were the case, it would be ethical to kill those in a comatose or vegetative state because they can’t feel pain. And I would hope your friend would agree that it isn’t morally ethical to murder someone because they’re in a coma. Also, there are people who are born without the ability to feel pain. It’s a rare condition called CIP (congenital insensitivity to pain). Following your friend’s logic, are these people not human because they can’t feel pain? Of course they’re human - they are human from conception, not because of their ability to feel pain.In terms of organ development, a baby’s heart and brain begin to develop at approximately the fifth week of pregnancy. Most women do not realize they are pregnant until weeks 4-7, so if a woman decides to have an an abortion, odds are that baby has already started developing these organs. So if your friend is basing her argument on brain/heart development, that debunks her justification of abortion right there. However, even if a human didn’t start developing a heart or brain until much later, science still isn’t on her side because science doesn’t base the definition of humanity/life on organ development. Science is very clear about the fact that human life is defined at conception when a sperm and egg (gametes) come together to form a human life (zygote) with its own unique set of DNA. Here are some excerpts from biology texts that confirm this:

“The oviduct or Fallopian tube is the anatomical region where every new life begins in mammalian species. After a long journey, the spermatozoa meet the oocyte in the specific site of the oviduct named ampulla, and fertilization takes place.”

Coy et al., Roles of the oviduct in mammalian fertilization, REPRODUCTION 144(6):649 (Oct. 1, 2012)

“Fertilization – the fusion of gametes to produce a new organism – is the culmination of a multitude of intricately regulated cellular processes.”

Marcello et al., Fertilization, ADV. EXP. BIOL. 757:321 (2013)

“Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”

“A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).”

Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.

“In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun.”

Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974.

These are just a few excerpts I took from a great post someone put together with many references to biology texts. You may want to read the entire post for more references, you can find the post here.I hope this helped to clarify your question, if you want to discuss this further, don’t hesitate to ask!