So are false and ren together or nah
gonna be real with you, i have no idea.
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So are false and ren together or nah
gonna be real with you, i have no idea.
i hate hate HATE rpf shipping especially w ccs because those r real people and like they can SEE what u post, but saying that, idk if it would be weird to say that i wouldn't be surprised if anything happened between false and ren ?? ik it contradicts what i just said and all and i don't want to be pulling evidence out of my ass or anything but it's particularly ren who just ??? is so obvious sometimes ? idk if that makes sense
also, lukewarm take but treebark (mostly martyn) fans piss me off SOOO much sometimes, especially how they ignore false when she's frequently on his channel in favor of martyn, mostly in shipping spaces/videos/whatever. absolutely nothing against martyn, but particularly on tiktok/twitter (cesspool, i know), fans will blatantly ignore her despite her presence on his channel on things like ship/duo videos and only talk about martyn even when he's not mentioned?? i don't mean to be the woker but it's getting to the point where it just feels like misogyny ? 😭 i may be biased because im fans of both false and ren and don't rly watch martyn/the life series in general but false and ren interact so much i feel like it's impossible to be a fan of him and NOT know how close he is with false ?. anyway i know this is rly minor and lukewarm or whatever but. im probably that one friend thats too woke
i think it has a lot to do with the overabundance of life series fans. they have a whole lot of people talking about treebark, making art, writing stuff, shipping, etc, simply because it is SO big. i'd say there's way more people that watch ren for life series compared to his solo and hermitcraft stuff, which means that they straight-up just wouldn't click on videos any non life series videos and entirely miss those that have any ren and false interaction. while i DO maintain that that's a huge factor on why there isn't much visibility on that, i gotta say that online fandoms-- ESPECIALLY fandoms like life series and hc-- have an over fixation with gay ships. i'd say that the popularity goes with gay at first, poly second, lesbian third, and straight at dead last. obviously there are the gay fans that just wanna see representation of themselves by shipping same sex ppl, but COME ON. there are a ridiculous amount of people who fetishize the gay ships solely for being gay ships. i fear renfalse was doomed from the beginning. people are aware of the ship but they choose to not gaf abt it.
my takes on old dsmp creators now
an anon asked for who i keep up with still and my opinions but i went over the word limit so here it is ____________________________________
Dream: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
GeorgeNotFound: don't watch and don't know what he's doing Sapnap: don't watch
Callahan: don't watch but to be fair, i don't think he ever made content
Alyssa: i loved her in the early dsmp, but she disappeared very quickly and i haven't seen her since. i don't think she does content creation anymore (or ever really did)
Ponk: i LOVE ponk. he's the best. he streams very inconsistently and only ever once every few months, but there's no one else i'd rather watch. he's so funny and his streams have amazing vibes. also he's one of the only normal people that ever came out of this smp. he's very underrated and he deserves all the success in the world if he ever decides to take content creation as a full time thing again.
BadBoyHalo: i liked him a lot more back when he was in the dsmp. i like him and his content, but it's just so hard to keep up with him now. smps have stuck with the "stream all the time" schedule, but we as viewers don't have a "watch all the time" schedule anymore-- so i'd tune in and things would be SO different from the last stream. he grinds a lot, but because of that, it's difficult to be a casual viewer of him. to his credit, i don't really think that was ever his fault. it was mostly smp management that made him hard to watch. nowadays, it's super difficult to hop into streams without a large amount of context. now, here comes the drama. apparently he still associates with the dream team. the last time i checked in he still did, but if that's changed in the past couple months idk. it's very normal that ccs have picked sides, namely three ish. there's the dream side, the quackity side, and then the tommy/tubbo side. frankly, the tommy/tubbo and quackity one blend together in most cases. bbh hasn't PICKED a side. he still associates with everyone. people are very very defensive on either side. he has somehow managed to keep up with all three sides. do i think he should choose one? no, not really--but MANY people disagree. as far as i'm concerned, it's IMPRESSIVE that he's able to stay chill with all three. bro gotta be playing some 3d chess to keep that up. he's never been involved in any of the drama and mainly does his own thing while meshing well with any group he's in, so i don't find it surprising. i really don't gaf about him picking sides. at the end of the day, not picking one has miraculously worked out for him. if it hadn't, it would be VERY obvious. so as long as it works out for all sides, i don't see any push to pick. if quackity, dream, or tommy/tubbo were forcing him to pick we would see that disassociation, but that just hasn't happened. personality wise, i enjoy him. some people find him overly annoying or childish. i think he's alright. there's been some criticism like when he invited someone that wasn't liked to an among us lobby, but tbh that felt more like just miscommunication to me, everyone's fighting so often so i can see why it's easy to get confused on who's okay with who.
TommyInnit: i still watch him. he has potential, but ever since the big controversies that left him sorta dwindling in the friend department, he's been less entertaining. i mean-- how can one be expected to make a ton of content if all your content buddies are gone? he's continued to carry on on his own--which i'm thankful for--but he doesn't have that same spark. he often makes meh content and not so great decisions, but i have faith that maybe one day he can become fun again. depression really gets you. i can give him a break.
Tubbo: sometimes i'll tune into a stream, but they're kinda just confusing now. i feel like the only way that they're enjoyable is if you're a diehard tubbling. aside from that, be prepared to be always a LITTLE confused. i do, however, love his youtube videos and especially irl videos. i also really enjoy his setup tours. i'm a big techie kind of person myself and it's awesome to hear someone talk electronics ad specs. the subbathons are great, but i can never seem to catch them at the right time. i still keep up with him, though!
Fundy: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
Punz: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
Purpled: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
Wilbur Soot: i keep up with him somewhat loosley. but actively. i find the path that he's going in interesting to say the least. i can't really find another word to describe this man's progression. as for my mandatory side pick, i believe shubble. but then again, you can make your own decisions. shubble is 100% my girl and i believe her, but if you don't, i don't really care. make your own decisions. i'm all for free thought. just be sure that they're YOUR thoughts-- not something you've regurgitated, not thought of on your own, or feel pressured to think. and for the love of god, do your own research and watch some shubble before you go defending him. this man ain't your divine leader. don't just automatically have the same opinions as your friends. i only respect people that can think for themselves. an opinion formed by your own head will always be more valuable and respectable than one made with haste or one-sided thinking. don't fall into either one of the extremes. that does you no good.
or do. i'm not your mom.
anyway as for a review on him, let's start with the music. it takes a lot of inspiration from the typical indie rock bands. los campanisos (idfk how to spell it but you get the idea), the front bottoms, two door cinema club, arctic monkeys, good kid, etc. if you don't wanna listen to him, listen to those. his music in general--to me at least-- is good! it's well produced, well written, and goes insanely hard on the instrumentals. amazing if you love electric guitar, synths, and drums. selling-wise? they're sorta flopping. but they're rebuilding. the lovejoy reputation will always be tainted, but lots of bands have recovered from similar situations so who knows how that'll go. VIDEOS! his new content is well-made and well-researched. it's mainly informational with sarcastic commentary. if you're not a nerd then you won't like it, though. it's just a whole lot of history right now. his fandom? actually fucking crazy. they're DIEHARD. not in a loyal way, but in a scarily sexual way. they're creepy as shit. there's basically zero shame for any of them. if you want to be entertained for a week, make an twitter account and take a look at it. your jaw will drop.
JSchlatt: i watch him and think he's funny. although i will say, i sorta just watch his stuff if it comes up. i don't go actively looking for it. i watched him rate different kinds of chips at 3 am one night before school. would recommend the experience. that tier list spoke to my soul. as far as his more creative videos go, they've definitely upped in quality. he's taking them in a great direction. the last ones i watched were 1.) the nyc thing with tom, and 2.) him renting out a hotel and making a short story with actors/his friends. it was giving wolf of wallstreet, but in a good way. i missed his dynamic with minx, but they're off in different directions now.
Eret: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
Jack Manifold: i see him pretty often, but not on purpose. i don't go out of my way to watch him but he's everywhere. he's in the SUIT podcast and he tends to sometimes be more likeable than tom when tom won't let go of something.
i liked his grocery shopping video. i'm a huge sucker for irl content and vlogs.
as a creator to watch on purpose? not my thing. i don't catch his streams because i find him boring. him and niki (very obviously) dated for a while but i do feel like his eyes were elsewhere even since before they broke up. i'm on team niki here, but i don't really care.
Nihachu: i loved watching her. she was the sweetest and it was so sad to watch her kindness be taken advantage of so often and for her to be treated so bad.
i sorta lost track of her after her and jack broke up because she left the internet for a while. she dresses goth now which is a very different look, but a good one. she dated some musician for a while and i wasn't too enthusiastic about it (it wasnt wilbur it was just some other dude idfk). didn't seem like a good choice. as for how she is now? ...idk if i fuck with her anymore. she's kind on streams and i can still somewhat see the remains of early niki there, but she's someone different now. people grow and change, but she's changed a little too much for me to continue to enjoy her. i see people calling her the typical la influencer now and lowkey yeah. she's lost her down to earth nature and very much lives in a different world now. her merch prices are ridiculous. she talks shit about her fandom often but expects them to fund her lifestyle even despite dissapearing for largeeeee amounts of time and only showing us effort maybe three times a year??? i feel like she seriously needs to consider what her path is gonna be because as much as i like her, i don't know what the hell is going on with her. people won't support you forever if you barely interact with them. it looks like she's coming back now, though? she doesn't seem open to criticism at ALL which is a definite weakness, but it's her life ig
Quackity: too corporate. he's lost nearly all of his charm. qsmp went south quickly because it was ultimitley a cool project but much too large too quickly. there weren't enough resources to ensure it went smoothly. and the story never really progressed. nowadays he hypes his audience up for weeks on end just to announce a whole lot of nothing. lots of buzzwords and hype for what is ultimately boring and nothing of note. i wish he would try hard again instead of piggybacking off of the fact that he has a large audience. yeah tons of people watch, but you're feeding them content that isn't worth watching. you can't just say "THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING I'VE EVER DONE!!!" with a vine boom and a parade and then serve us the most mid news ever.
Karl Jacobs: isn't he still in the mr beast machine??? he should leave that. he was incredibly entertaining and had some of the most potential out of EVERYBODY! tales of the smp? chef's kiss. his content was new, exciting, colorful, and he had great storytelling. he's worth more than just being on the dsmp, feastables, mr beast burger, etc. he can get a genuine youtube career if he gets back to it. aside from contracts or whatever, i can't imagine why he just left that behind.
HBomb94: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
Technoblade: loved his content. rip. wish people would stop using him for clickbait.
Antfrost: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
Philza: don't watch and don't know what he's doing. i occasionally tune in, but get bored very quickly.
ConnorEatsPants: don't watch and don't know what he's doing
CaptainPuffy: don't watch and don't know what she's doing, but i hope she realizes that she doesn't have to pander to creepy men soon. ur worth more than that.
Ranboo: not my cup of tea. he was fun to watch as a side character, but he wasn't ever my main. i tuned back in a few months ago and he was doing gooner content or something??? i don't know what's going on there but i think he's off in a different direction that isn't my taste. every time i joined his streams he would be ranting about his old audience. literally every time. hope he recovers ig??? i think he's happy with what he's doing now but idfk LOVED his genloss content tho. amazing ideas, soundtrack, execution, awesome!!!
Foolish Gamers: he's funny. i like him. i don't keep up with him, though, because his characters are soooo detailed and need hella context to understand in smps.
Hannahxxrose: i know that she's doing stuff and i think she's doing well, but i only ever hear about her every once in a while and don't actively tune in
Slimecicle: never my cup of tea. i think he played up trying to be "RANDOM!! XDDD SLIME!!! GOOP!!!" too much and it just became cringe.
Michaelmcchill: i never got into him and don't really know him
Awesamdude: i LOVEDDDDD him. him and ponk were my mains. haven't heard from him in a while. heard he stole some redstone from hermitcraft which was a wild crossover for me as someone who watches both 😭 haven't seen him make content lately. ik he still associates with dt but i think he sorta had to to keep SOME kind of audience. he didn't really CREATE content the way others did. he helped, he streamed, but he wasn't out here making videos. he was a support role at best. heard he's married now. that's cool! super duper surprising--but hey! good on you! i'd like to hear if his "code for the kids" program ever got off the ground (i don't think it did), but i think it was abandoned alongside content creation.
Vikkstar123: i never got into him and don't really know him
LazarBeam: i never got into him and don't really know him
Skeppy: queerbaited with bad, but i think that was obvious. i found the content enjoyale to watch. i also loved his technoblade collabs. currently, however, he needs to grow up. his content isn't cutting it anymore. his viewers have grown up but he's still making "OMGGG I TRAPPED 100 PLAYERS!!! I GRIEFED!!! OMG LOOK AT THIS PRANK!!! SHINY COLORS!!! BOOM SOUND EFFECT!!" content and nobody is watching aside from 5 year olds. even BAD has a better audience. he needs to change his content and move on. viewers are leaving him behind and he needs to adapt and find something new
Aimsey: i ALWAYS found them annoying. i've tried liking them but it's just not happening. they get on my nerves.
TinaKitten: love her!!! haven't tuned in for a while now, though.
SeaPeeKay: i never got into him and don't really know him
Eryn: i know OF him and don't dislike him, but i barely see him or ever hear about him besides the brighton people and tommy mentioning him. this man is a ghost. i know he exists but i never see him.
Samito: i don't know them
Krinios: i don't know them
i wish ccs would stop with this kind of stuff. it’s giving desperate and i hate it sm💔 stand UP
I hate when ccs do it but it's even worse if the community keeps pushing for it as well. Like with Lukey and Pangi, their "romance" was already bad and weird ass queerbaiting (especially when they met up irl) but the fans would turn every interaction they had into "omg gay!!! 🤭". It's so annoying, so many fans are queer themselves and claim they just like queer rep, but instead of watching actual queer ccs and supporting them, they're only looking for queer rep in straight ccs rping stereotypical and hypersexual gay relationship where the whole joke is based on the fact that it's not real. Ofc it's not everyone, eg Aimsey, Pili and Zam did get a lot of support as well, but it is noticeable quieter than with the straight ccs and it's also noticeable how it's only loudly cheered on when it's one of them with the fans favourite straight cc (like people cheering on Pili × Foolish, Aimsey × Ros). It's also those rps that are used as a shield to criticism as fans use these rp ships as a reason on why they're supporting queer ccs as well. Meanwhile they never talk about said queer ccs outside of this context and it's clear that they also don't watch them. But you can never have a proper conversation because "I'm queer myself" clearly makes you immune to a nuanced conversation about queerbaiting and how queer fans feed into it 🙃
Again, it's obviously not everyone and there are plenty of fans that support the queer ccs rp as much as the straight ones/it's also obviously fine not to be interested in some ccs rp regardless of their identity. It just pisses me off how many fans genuinely treat gay rp by straight ccs = peak content, maximum support; straight rp by straight ccs = sibling coded 🥺 any shipping is a crime; gay rp by queer ccs = either ignored, used as a token gay ship while clearly not watching the streams or for some reason they get called out for queerbaiting/being homophobic???
you're a whole lot more of an expert on the realm than i am so i'm just gonna post this w/o commentary because i think you got everything. what i do wanna make sure to emphasize is the whole weird shipping thing. the straight cc queerbaiting gets sooooo much attention and its just... boring. like tf? ITS THE SAME SHIT DIFFERENT FONT! besides, when it comes to shipping, it's either the world's most horrendous crime, sibling coded (genuinely where the FUCK did that whole thing come from???), or people way overdo it with the freakiness fator. we've got some real weirdos running around over here.
idk if anyone cares but wilbur mentioned tommy in his new video and said just bc he’s not on people’s streams doesn’t mean he’s not friends with them. any amount of conclusions i draw from that are bad
just checked up on this, and he didn't actually directly mention tommy.
timestamp here should be at 13:28 for the mention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pYVhtTvgVA i'm going to make a text based recap of what that segment of the video says so that people don't have to click on it if they don't want to. i'll be pulling from the youtube transcript to avoid having to manually type it out, but here's what the anon is mentioning. context: wilbur made a video called "Let's chat" and uploaded on dec 30, 2025. it's a recap for the first part of the video, and then him doing a q&a segment after. ---------------------------
TRANSCRIPT (a little retouched by me for accuracy since it was auto generated!): (text displays: "NEXT QUESTION" with white text on a black background)
Wilbur: (reading out question as the camera goes back to him) "You don't make videos with your friends anymore. Do you still have friends? (laugh)"
Wilbur: "Yes." (simultaneously, text overlays that flashes red and white, reading "LIAR"., for comedic effect)
(camera goes back to normal and wilbur continues) Wilbur: "I find the train of thought that content creators are only friends with the people they show in their videos--and that they show on live stream or whatever--I find that train of thought to be quite funny." (end of interaction) ----------------------------------------
so, wilbur did not mention tommy. he just made a general statement. HOWEVER, he DID mention fundy and show a picture of ludwig for comedic effect. both of these were before the question i just talked about. for fundy, he said that he didn't actually punch a hole through the drywall in their meetup video, but that instead, there was shipping paint. he then says that he isn't that strong. he didn't say anything about fundy directly, but just talked about that part from their meetup video and said his name. for ludwig, he was talking about how ludwig had made it a point that you don't know content creators. he didn't directly bring up ludwig's name, but he did overlay a picture of him while talking about it in terms of his audience.
part of me gets why people are so suspicious of grigem rn but like. one thing that I don't ever see people take into consideration wrt their growing closeness over the past couple years is that part of it is like. a business thing. they're obviously regardless of exact relationship details very close friends w weirder boundaries than most platonic friendships have, but like. the reason they interact so much is definitely largely influenced by the fact that people ENJOY when they interact so much. their shenanigans get lots of views, their videos tend to be similar in style and tone, a lot of their viewerbase is shared, they have an engaging dynamic together, and regardless of the nature of their bond it's not like they dislike each other. the funny moments they have together get Talked About outside of a shipping lens a lot in the fandom! like they are Running A Business Here. if making content together gets them views and positive feedback, they're gonna keep doing that more and more and it's not necessarily some indicator of "obsession" or whatever those 10000% convinced of grigem dating are going on about.
also it feels kinda weird that some of the flirty shit people are like This Isn't Friend Behavior about is stuff that f/f and m/m pairings on the servers do all the time that everybody acknowledges is joke flirting. like. I get that it's Different(TM) bc there's an actual possibility given their sexualities but like. idk I feel like men and women are allowed to jokingly flirt with each other too. the most likely case for what's going on imo is that grian's wife is just fine with him joke flirting about other people as long as it's not to the neglect of his actual relationship. maybe I'm just too polyamorous for this but I feel like a lot of people forget that every couple (even monogamous ones!!) has different boundaries wrt what they're okay with their partner doing with other people
here's my thing. yes, they ARE running a business. however, hermitcraft as a whole has gotten to the point where it's less business oriented and more of a group of friends. people within the server hang out and talk outside of work, play games together off stream/ youtube, etc. scar and grian content was huge a couple years ago. way, way bigger than grian and gem. grian eventually distanced himself from scar in the life series because of people getting mad about jokes, the dynamic, and the fact that they had teamed up so often . put simply, he just put it down. were they shipped? yes. was it possible? personally, idk if scar has put out any labels, but grian has said several times that he's straight. people can lie, but if we take his word for it, then no. it can't happen. gem and grian however, can happen. gem is bi and grian is atraight. running a business is okay, but if you're married, you lose the ability to blur lines and jokingly flirt with your FEMALE friends. if you're straight, you can still flirt with your gay friends, but with the opposite sex is just wrong. running a business has nothing to do with it. that's my view on it. i feel like regardless of doing it for "the sake of content", people should still be aware of what they're doing, what it looks like, and what the implications of it are. anyway, i'm still skeptical on gem and grian overall, so i don't necessarily endorse that they ARE dating. just that they're acting sketchy.
harry is great when hes with the right people and not forcing the character
hes naturally very funny so he should focus on being that instead of trying too hard to make ppl laugh when his chill normal shtick isnt working
i’ve seen lots of content where i dislike him and find him annoying, but on coy and tom’s podcast, he’s genuinely pleasant. i’d be a regular watcher of him if we could get THAT version of harry out of him more often
lvjy venues cancelled vs wilbur managing to bag a geoguessur sponsorship ⁉️
i know he uploaded a geoguessur video but i haven’t seen it yet. lovejoy venues cancelled??? PLS MORE CONTEXT