So, what's your thoughts on Deltarune so far? I'm not sure how far you gotten, but what about the initial thoughts?
I've done both routes through both chapters now! Really enjoyed them but man they are SUPER dense, a TON of stuff happened that I have no idea where to start untangling it all, haha. Boy some of the new bosses were no joke too. Gotta chew on all this info for a bit to start to put it together...
I wonder if their reaction to Alastor is more of a combination of things? He usually seems more than capable of handling himself and they have a LOT of other stuff going on RN so he's like. Low priority lmao. Charlie can't afford to spare any energy worrying about whatever's going on there.
Got more than one ask about this so I am grouping them! (Second, longer ask under the cut below.)
I don't really get the impression that this is a matter of Charlie feeling insecure about not being able to help Alastor, because the emotional tone of her complaint just did NOT track with that. I think there's definitely a piece of "she is overwhelmed by the situation with Vox and hyperfixated on Emily coming back down," and there have definitely been moments in prior seasons when she was upset specifically because she was focused on her own goals and expecting those around her to help her and they weren't coming through on that due to their own issues - she treated Angel Dust very similarly this season, too - which is how I am hoping this is spun. I think once you re-orient her to the fact that she's being callous, she tends to feel regretful and apologetic about it, but it's her baseline attempts at empathy that therefore make her callousness to Alastor seem so shocking.
(Even though, yes, he generally presents himself as being able to handle himself! But it doesn't strike me as something Charlie should believe when he is clearly being paraded around looking miserable, by the enemy that she most actively fears and is subverting her at this time. (Even though x2 he is having the time of his life now that the humiliation parade is over and he's just kicking around Vee Tower in his stupid wheely chair oh my GOD I love everything about that situation so much.))
We just haven't reached that point of re-orientation yet with anyone other than Vaggie, and I have too much anticipatory anxiety about the direction for Alastor's character as a whole to feel confident that it is going to go in any particular direction wrt Alastor in particular, lol. Looking forward to the final two episodes for sure!
@amanda-519's longer ask on the same topic to which I am also reponding is under the cut!
I do agree it WAS really wild that Charlie didn't think to go get Alastor herself, but I do like the idea that part of the reason she didn't is because in season one, when she tried to "save" Angel from Val, it went so poorly that it made life *worse* for Angel.
Now, I don't think Charlie is consciously thinking that if she tries to save Alastor that she will fuck it up the same way she did with Angel, but I do like the idea that it's a subconscious fear.
And that fear being magnified by the fact that Charlie has this issue where when she "fails" at something, or something doesn't go the way she hoped, she gets really depressed and sees it as a failing, and gets very fixated on trying to "fix" it.
We see this in season one after the hotel gets destroyed. Even after they defeated the angels, Charlie believes that if *she* could have convinced Heaven to work together, none of this would have happened.
And when her words get taken out of context, she's desperate to "set the record straight", believing if she *just* did/does X, then everything will be fixed.
"if I invite a reporter from Voxtech over and set the record straight, then everyone will know the truth!"
"If I go on live TV, I can set the record straight and everyone will know the truth!"
"if I bring the angels to the rally and they tell the truth, then everyone will know!"
And with each passing failure, she gets more and more desperate to fix it. We see in a more "open and shut" case when she was trying to redeem Angel.
So I think this fear/fixation, coupled with how she probably feels like she can't do anything right, possibly subconsciously leads her to believe that *she* can't go safe Alastor.
That will only fuck it up and make it worse. Like she did with Angel.
Especially as she doesn't seem to know about his deal with Vox.
Idk! I do think that Alastor is "waiting for the right moment" to clue in Charlie of his deal, since I don't think it would be hard to contact her? He's being held in Vee tower, but it still seems he has a bit of free range on where to go. He didn't show up in Val's studio without Vox knowing he was there.
So I assume he can access some kind of cell phone and text Charlie to save him. Or, Husk and Nifty were *right there* after he made the deal. He could have told them to tell Charlie. Or I'm sure Alastor probably has some kind of dog whistle to send Nifty running to him, lol.
Wait - I just realized that Hermit!Tommy has never seen the End before! Plus, seeing as Cobblestone is his favorite block, and end stone is just inverted cobblestone, he would probably actually really like the End! If you're feeling up to it, can I request something to do with Hermit!Tommy being in the End for the first time?
It comes to Zedaph’s attention that Tommy’s never fought the ender dragon before. Zedaph wants another go at killing the dragon while boating around the End, so he asks Tommy, but Tommy is only aware of the existence of any dragon due to “a speedrunning friend” telling him about his “manhunts”. Now they have to beat the dragon. Everyone’s done it, it’s practically a rite of passage!
Their obsidian platform spawns under the endstone instead of in the void, which is lucky. Tommy gets the hang of tower-destroying quickly; he’s good with his MLG water bucket even if he swears the whole time. Tommy decides to explode the dragon with beds instead of killing it with his sword or axe, which Zedaph thinks is weird but whatever works. It’s after the dragon is dead that things go a bit sideways. Tommy wants to collect endstone because it looks like “piss cobble”, which, yeah, fair enough. But when Zedaph suggests they go endbusting, Tommy takes one step through the portal that takes them out to the other End islands and screams.
He panics. What the fuck is this, why is there no fucking floor. Is that the void? The literal, actual, void? And he’s supposed to fly around above this, with nothing but an elytra?!
The void is scary, Zedaph thinks, but Tommy’s overreacting a little. It’s like he’s never... seen it before...
He feels like an idiot. They go back through the portal, then back to the Overworld, and Zedaph feels bad and Tommy is embarrassed but it’s fine because they make silly things with the so-called piss cobble and pretend nothing happened.
Tommy does return to the End, though. He doesn’t like to go alone, as though having someone there will make it less likely that the void will swallow him whole. He collects endstone and his very first elytra that he got himself, and hoards all the loot from the End cities even if it’s bad, and takes every potion he comes across in the End ships. He takes purpur because Scar once mentioned that everyone thinks it’s an ugly block. He tries to have a pet endermite named Jared, but endermen brutally murder it and he pouts for a week.
Soon he’s flying around the End with the best of them, motivated in part because one day he’s going to see his friends again, and this is going to be a huge flex.
How do you think the first underfrogs mission went? Did they even really knew each other personally before their first mission? What were their efforts impressions of each other before they got to know each other? Do you think jamack/Harris were low key scarred of Kwat at first? Harris "oh no he's hot" @ Jamack, before realizing that he's an asshole? Jamack "I must be be professional and sharp or I Will Die". Who do you think was the first to slowly remove that professional aura around them?
ooooohohhoohohoooo I have a lot to work with here.
So i imagine their first assignments are actually shadowing older frogs on patrol/ negotiations/ etc and maybe some grunt work like sorting/delivering reports and what not. Their first “real” assignment after that is them doing an assignment with frogs in their “class,” usually a patrol because that’s a near daily assignment Mod Frogs will have. The point of this is to get the newly graduated/grown frogs fully focused on what they should do on their patrols and be corrected by frogs who actually know what they’re doing before they work with the frogs they grew up with.
Harris, Kwat, and Jamack are close enough in age to have basically grown up with each other. I’ve detailed in other posts that Jamack approached Harris first as a young froglet to befriend him (He liked how Harris looked and wasn’t malicious about it, much to Harris’ confusion) and they “together” (read: Jamack’s first of many unconventional but still effective ideas) befriended Kwat so the other froglets would stop bullying him and Harris. She was big and had a temper that kinda worked in scaring/intimidating away other froglets (including Harris, who did not like Jamack’s idea) so Jamack thought befriending her would protect them. It kinda did. Took a few more fights to solidify things but in the end the other froglets started to leave them alone.
Jamack graduated early and thus was the first of the underfrogs to get his suit. And the first frog in a while to have a suit while still having a tail. (This is a headcannon I drabbled about a looooong while back.) So he was shadowing and doing assignments while Harris and Kwat were probably in their last year/year and a half of schooling. This is where Jamack got his first ego boost and really starting being a dick, but also starts feeling a lot pressure to prove himself immensely. (A lot of froglets were not happy that he got the privilege and honor to graduate early, and even experienced frogs had their doubts, thinking he’d be too naive still. He really had to be harsh and sharp to get them off his back and it really stuck.)
Kwat and Harris were already a bit closer to each other than Jamack, often bonding over “what is this dumbass doing? Is he for real??” and “holy fuck that actually work! Hell yea!!” but that year without him really solidified that. They’re quite an effective duo, which other frogs were fine with because many didn’t want to work with the “freaks.”
What makes the trio kinda special is that after shadowing other frogs, Jamack got them to be a part of his patrols as their first real assignment. He originally was going to try and get them to shadow him because he genuinely missed doing things together, but that would’ve required a lot more string pulling than he had at the moment. Most frogs are in the field for a few years before theyre trusted enough to mentor a newly graduated frog. (most also try and push it off if they can lol)
Because of the professional aura being strong, honestly only amplified because Jamack was in a way their senior, it made the first patrols kind of awkward?? Cuz like he’d still snip at them because he still felt pressure to preform at 110% and thus they needed to be at 110% or else it might reflect on him. Especially since everyone knows they were a group as froglets and that was gonna raise eyebrows, even if other frogs got away with that sorta stuff all the time. None of them really knew how to behave because they didn’t know if that old friendship/alliance was still in play. I imagine Jamack found a way to dissolve the awkwardness after a few patrols. Likely doing something he shouldn’t have or sharing a luxury/treat like chocolate as a show of alliance still.
Harris and Kwat would never admit it, but they found Jamack’s ability to graduate and rise in respect very admirable. It honestly took a boatload of work to prove himself like that. And Jamack himself really got his shit together, stopped being so vocal about things that could make him look “weird” like he did as a young froglet, keeps himself very sharp, and is a lot better at banter and wittiness. Harris will never admit to himself he finds this newer Jamack absolutely enamoring and loves how the banter can go between the two.
I heard somewhere that burr used to keep knives in his umbrella?
Aaron Burr wrote in his journal:
“As I was writing the concluding line of the preceding page last evening (about 1 o'clock) an ill-looking fellow opened my door without knocking, and muttering in German something which I did not comprehend, bid me put out my candle. Being in no very placid humor at the moment, as you see, I cursed him and sent him to hell in French and English. He advanced and was going to seize the candle. My umbrella, which had a dirk in the handle, being near me, I seized it, drew the dirk, and drove him out of the room.“
He attacked someone with a knife hidden inside of his umbrella.