#anti-cullrian

[makerguideme]

blasphemousherald replied to your post: i’m trying to study how to calculate...

i’m curious! i’ve never seen cullrian as a notp, just as a ship. do you have reasons it’s not one you like? or is it just a “mmm nope this gives me bad feelings” thing? (which is totally valid too! i’m just curious your thoughts)

it’s moslty because 9 times out of 10 it’s being horribly fetishized and it’s more ‘let’s have the two most conventionally attractive men fuck For the Aesthetic’ than actually exploring the ways the ship would work, cullen and dorian both are turned into objects for the female gaze rather than being allowed to keep their integrity as characters, i’ve got a number of problems with it and the way fandom portrays it.  i haven’t seen it a lot in RP -- moreso in fanfic -- but i just can’t bring myself to get into it.

[verifiedmothman]

Just out of curiosity, why are you anti-'Cullrian'? They seemed, to me at least, to-enjoy each other's company and in my first play through I was actually expecting them to form a background relationship like Fenris and Isabella did in DA2 if neither of them were romanced (went into the game thinking Cullen was a Bi romance option). I've heard though that people have problems with this ship though so it would help to hear your opinion.

I could write an essay about this, but I’ll try to be brief. 

Suffice to say: I think Cullrian perpetuates the stereotype that a gay man can’t just be friends with a straight man. That no matter what the gay man is going to lust after the straight guy--regardless of whether it’s romantically, sexually, or both. 

Cullen was originally planned as bisexual. And I’m fairly sure there’s recorded dialogue for it and everything. But I--personally--only take what’s actually in the game as canon. To do otherwise is like saying Hermione is definitely a Ravenclaw because JK Rowling contemplated such a choice. 

Cullen and Dorian do have a connection, but I think it’s completely platonic. Nothing about the chess scene struck me as flirtatious. Just two friends playing a game. Dorian was his charming self, sure, but he’s charming with everyone and it’s rarely an “I want to kiss you” sort of effort. I don’t think Cullen was one of those instances. 

I don’t know. People are free to ship what they want. But Cullrian makes me really uncomfortable.