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ASoIaF characters: Tyene Sand

"War," said Tyene, "though not my sister's war. Dornishmen fight best at home, so I say let us hone our spears and wait. When the Lannisters and the Tyrells come down on us, we shall bleed them in the passes and bury them beneath the blowing sands, as we have a hundred times before."

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JRRT dragons, GRRM dragons, Dunk, Egg and my Targaryen ring

What do you think of "Lesbian Sansa" popular headcanon? I know it's probably fanon but I still found it as a very compelling one

What I genuinely understand is that this is, ultimately, more of a headcanon than anything else. And that’s fine. Sansa is, especially in the books, a character who is still very much in the process of developing. Her primary coping mechanism in response to trauma is dissociation. She dissociates. In fact, George Martin has explicitly said that Sansa is not a reliable narrator. Of course, no narrator is ever one hundred percent reliable, because everyone speaks from their own perspective, but Martin singles Sansa out in particular as someone whose account should not be fully trusted. I think this is precisely because the way she confronts trauma and the situations she lives through is through almost total dissociation, retreating into a kind of internal fantasy space and simply pushing forward through it.

From that perspective, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if, at a deeper level, Sansa is not actually attracted to traditionally masculine men. Sandor frightens her, and not just because of his scar, people fixate on the scar, but that’s not the point. He frightens her because he is physically imposing, coarse, aggressive. Tyrion repels her because of his appearance and everything that comes with it, but he does not frighten her. And he doesn’t frighten her because she does not perceive him as a threat.

Early on, Sansa is very infatuated with Loras Tyrell. Loras is not a character who fits traditional standards of masculinity at all. The image Sansa holds of the knight in shining armour is, in fact, a highly feminised one. One of the reasons Sansa feels so tender and sympathetic to me in the books is precisely because she is so deeply adolescent. Sansa is a teenager in the purest sense. Honestly, if Sansa existed today, she would be a K-pop fan. She would absolutely be a K-pop stan, hopelessly in love with two or three idols from some band, men who are visibly feminine and who do not fit traditional masculine norms in any way. From that perspective, as an adolescent who believes she is attracted to men, but is not attracted to what is culturally defined as “real” masculinity, only to a version of masculinity shaped by a female gaze rather than by male projection, I can absolutely understand the headcanon that Sansa might be attracted to women.

And we also have to remember that she is a child. In terms of her personal development, her growth as a human being, it is entirely plausible that she might later come to understand her sexuality in many different ways.

I also think it matters that when Sansa is paired with women in fandom, those women are usually much closer to her in age, three or four years older, rather than fifteen or sixteen. And they are characters who have not abused her.

That’s the book side of things.

As for the show? I genuinely do not understand why Sansa would ever want to be with a man again. Ever. The Sansa of the series, after everything she has endured, is not someone I can imagine choosing a male partner. At all.

I’m not even making a deep theoretical argument here. On a basic, visceral level: she’s done. She’s had enough. If book!Sansa has already been subjected to the sexualised gaze of every man in Westeros —men old enough to be her father, while she is twelve or thirteen— then show!Sansa has gone through outright abuse, sexual violence, and relentless harassment. From that point on, the idea that she would want to build intimacy with a man again feels, to me, profoundly implausible.

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Team Dragonstone

The rest of the King Stannis' team/ Baratheon family.

Selyse gotta hide those ears with funny hair/headwear haha, but also so fitting for her character to be very conservative in her fashion

Shireen turned out so sweet, but imagine that chin getting even stronger as she ages (had to age her up to teenager here, because you can't see any features on these sims kids..)

Meliandre is heavily inspired by Gong Lee, beacuse I picture Essosi people as more Asian in looks, and with very different styles of fashion that Westeros

Davos is just your average guy you know, and Devan is a light copy

What an asoiaf fan says: this young teen girl isn't the kindest character ever and and here are a couple of unkind moments of hers that affect other characters

What the character's stans think: how dare you to criticise a little girl that means that a. you hate her b. you consider her worse than Tywin and Ramsay combined!!!

Despite the fact that you all praise Martin for writing complex and realistic characters ( which includes kids and teens), the moment someone tries to talk about one of the less heroic traits of your favourites, you are ready to label them a "hater".

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I found the reddit post about the actual relatedness between Targs in HOTD.

Viserys(Daemon) and Aemma were Double first cousins/Quadruple second cousins and they share 35% DNA making them essentially cousin-siblings.

Viserys and Daemon are Full siblings/Double first cousins/Quadruple second cousins

Viserys and Rhaenys are Double first cousins/Quadruple half first cousins once removed /Quadruple second cousins

Daemon and Rhaenyra are uncle-niece/Quadruple first cousins once removed/Octuple second cousins once removed. They share roughly 67% of DNA due to inbreeding (equal to full-siblings+half-siblings, more than father-child relationship)

Daemon and Laena are Double first cousins once removed/Quadruple half second cousins/Quadruple second cousins once removed/Quadruple third cousins which equals to roughly 24-25% of shared DNA, she was genetically his niece or half-sibling or a double-cousin.

Daemon and Jace-Joffrey are Grand-uncle -- grand nephews/Quadruple first cousins twice removed/Octuple second cousins twice removed. Genetically he shares around 33-35% DNA with them that make them more than his full nephews or roughly equal to 3/4 siblings.

Rhaenyra and Baela+Rhaena are First cousins/Quadruple second cousins/Triple second cousins once removed/Octuple third cousins/Sextuple half third cousins. Share roughly 40% of their DNA, similar to sibling-cousins (3/4 siblings).

Rhaenys and Jace/Luke are Triple first cousins twice removed/Sextuple half first cousins 3 times removed/Sextuple second cousins twice removed. She shared with them roughly 20% of DNA that is a low-range of usual grandparent-grandchild dna relatedness or aunt-nephews. They were her own blood, although she rejected them. It is sad, actually. She was also as related to Rhaenyra as 3/4 sibling too. More than her full aunt.

Jace and Baela (Luke and Rhaena) are First cousins once removed/Quadruple second cousins once removed/Triple third cousins/Octuple third cousins once removed. They share 22% of DNA and are similar to usual half-siblings or double-cousins.

Daemon and little Jahaerys - Maelor Double grand-uncle grand-nephews/Quadruple first cousins twice removed/Octuple second cousins twice removed. They share 39% of DNA, like 3/4 siblings.

Rhaenyra and Baela's children would have the same shared percent of DNA (21-22%) as usual aunt-nieces or grandparent-grandchild. (The author considered Alyn as Corlys' son).

Blood of the dragon runs thick.

I'm not going to calculate the genetic sharing in any family tree, much less the Targs. I shan't, thank you very much. So I will cautiously keep this in mind for when it may come up again and ask others about it to verify. I also already and frequently forget what a first cousin once removed even is and have to look it up. (The child of your cousin).

But then this happens:

I once said the Targ tree wasn't a tree but a wreath. I was wrong. It's a vine system that grow from one shaft into others and are more tightly interconnected than other. And truly, it is one of those things in the ASoIaF world that tickles me with its ironic boldness.

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BASTARDS OF WESTEROS

The names given to the Bastards of Westeros. The names vary by the kingdom the child was born in. The Bastards, are in nicer words illegitimate children. Bastards do not have claimes or possessions even if they are part of a noble house and their life is very though as they are always judged and pushed aside. Like in the case of Jon Snow and not only. Jon, as we all know, is Eddard Stark's son, but not Catelyn Stark's and in his case he was taken by Ned who choose to bring Jon along with him in Winterfell and let him grow up with his legittimate sons. Something that we'll see is not very common. In fact the case of Ramsey Snow is very different. He was born after Roose Bolton took a farmer girl against her will, and left her with a child. Once he came to know of this boy, he left him there, with only the servant Reek to take care of him... not a great choice... Another noble bastard is Edric Storm one of Robert Baratheon's sons, that lives in Storm’s End. A little bit different is the story of another child of Robert, the first one, Mya Stone. She lives in the Eyrie and Robert knows very well about her, but Cersei Lannister threatened her husband that if that girl would ever go in King’s Landing she would have found a way to kill her. And in the Eyrie now Sansa Stark is pretending to be the bastard daughter of Petyr Baelish taking the name of Alayne Stone to hide from the crown. And then there are all those children, even among the small folk that have no idea of who their parenst are, or one of them, like Gendry Waters or Barra and Bella. To them claimes do not matter, but their life is though non the less. Since many of them are orphans and have no idea of what the future would hold for them. A different story is for the bastards of Dorne. This is a special category. Dorne is infact utopian in many aspects, and this is one of the cases. This children are considerate exactly as the legitimate children. Not despised, or pushed aside. They have the same possibilities as any other. What do you think about these characters? One of them is your favorite? Did you know all of them? Let me know!