#aspect analysis

[dxllie-angel]

I'm posting the aspect of. Family next as I have yet to have time to work on the combo aspect of cataclysms! I have mostly been busy with many side projects and wanted to at least get another analysis out while I have a creative mind set, again all of these combos belong to @superxstarzz so please go and check out their blog! They are a amazing artist!!

The aspect that is up next is family!

The family aspect is a combo aspect of rage and blood! Now let's break rage and blood down into key words, emotions, and other things so we can understand them better!

Rage: negative, positive and neutral emotions. Mental stability, emotions in general, emotional issues, pessimistic, tough love, hard outer shell and distance, hate for lies, values the truth more than anything.

Blood: bonds, loyalty, friendship, relationships, Platonic, neutral and romantic feelings. Sometimes literal blood, kinship, leadership, therapist friend, fatherly/motherly/older sibling like energy, protective of people they care for.

Much like the space aspect I see the blood aspect having a motherly/fatherly/oldersibling like energy to it. Blood is the aspect dealing with the relationships of not only the player but of the people the player, to make this a little more detailed let's bring in karkat and only karkat because I don't know much about kankri lol

Karkat is our beta troll blood player, he is a knight player as well which tells us a lot about his session, while semi success it still lacked in the end.

Karkat being a blood player naturally made him feel like he needed to be the leader (he was in his own sense even if the rest of the trolls made fun of him for being a try hard and being up everyone's ass) he made himself the leader even though a leader in the eyes of the other trolls wasn't really needed or they just didn't give a shit. Karkat is somewhat protective of his group from what I remember, he is always there to give advice to the other players that need it as well as everyone usually flocks to him for advice n such weather they like it or not, he helps his friends by helping them with their bonds to his best ability. He uses his knight ability mixed with blood aspect to protect the others and build their bonds while maybe not with him but helps them build it with the others and he slowly builds a bond with himself if I'm. Correct

Now for rage, the only rage player I think I have a little info on is kurloz as he is a prince of rage I believe?

Kurloz is a prince of rage for the dancester trolls session which had failed if I'm correct? I think the only ones to God tier was areena and kankri I think correct me if I'm wrong.

Kurloz in the session before death and the dream bubbles had accidentally let out a screech of emotions and deafend mulin(? Can't remember how to spell her name) making her deaf, as a response of the destruction he cause to his matesprite (idk if that is cannon) he sews his mouth shut to join mulin in her now silence, he destroyed a piece of his lover with his negative emotions and then destroyed a piece of himself with the same emotions in hand.

Now onto the aspect of family.

Family: I can see the aspect of family being a balance or imbalance of emotions and relationships, a player of family can either have little to no emotions, a overwhelming amount of them where it's unbearable even for themselves, little to no relationships or many many many relationships. People who become hero's of family usually take on the patental/sibling like role in their own or their sessions lifespan as they are natural family bound people, they care to deeply or care not at all, as a hero of family you may be bound to also being the therapist friend as well, caring for others while you care for yourself, hero's of family value honesty and loyalty to a fault and are either enforced leaders or natural born leaders. Heros of family can also be over bearing with concern or worry for their friends and may even forget to care for themselves as they care for others much like a parent would a child.

Powers of the aspect of family

Words of encouragement: depending on class words of encouragement can be used to heal the mental health of a person or yourself in session or during strife, the stronger the encouragement the more powerful you become.

Human shield: depending on class you can make a shield out of yourself or the fallen side of the enemy to protect other people on your team or you yourself

Manipulate: being a person of family you can easily find a way to manipulate the minds of. Others so you can stay the main protection or provider of your team, coming up with ways for you to make your teams life easier can be to. Much of. A issue right?

Backfire: when someone finds out in your session that you lied about certain things you can manipulate the negative impact of emotions for the benefit of the team.

I hope this turned out okay, sorry cataclysms isn't the second aspect on the list I originally planned for it to be but I had this drafted up already and had no time today to really do cataclysms yet, I promise it will be soon tho! Please do enjoy everyone!

[lup-ines]

ASPECT ANALYSIS II: MERCURY CONJUCNT VENUS

If I can say one thing about people with this aspect is that these people are charmers. Mercury conjunct venus is an aspect that blesses people with the ability to communicate in a loving way that seems to attract people in mysterious ways. These people are magnitizing, elegant, and very lovable.

Since mercury rules the way we think, mercury conjunct venus grants a person with a very poetic and beautiful way of thinking. Many famous poets, musicians, and actors also have this aspect found in their charts. (i.e. jimi hendrix, michael jackson, shirley temple etc..)

Beware of the negative traits that come with this aspect. Due to your natural charming nature you may find yourself manipulating others verbally to get what you want. People with this aspect can also be very vain and self-centered.

[lordterrax]

Doom is the 4th dimension, you'll notice that computers and processor technology goes in steps of 4, the most optimal computer code is split into 4 lines. 4 by 4 bits.

They could be said to be 4 faced, and have a meticulous drive that chunks away at learning. Systematic, strategic. They live for structure and have highly intricate lives. Doom's functional nature is based on distribution/assimilation which is most closely locative, but Life is more exploitation and application/hands on experience.

[ditheringluminary]

The Alternian caste system and how it raises its trolls

Hey all! Taking a bit of a break from doing session analyses for a sec (thank you all so much btw i love doing them) to talk about something I didn’t think would come up since so few people use the full signs of their classpects, most likely because they’re talking about themselves or a friend and not a fantroll.

But it’s still important to recognize how Alternia structures its society in such a way that each troll would HAVE to take some part of their True Sign. Ever wonder WHY they call it a True Libra or True Cancer and the like on the aspect quiz? This is why. An important part of Doc Scratch’s and Lord English’s manipulation is that they changed the core values of troll society. Unlike Beforus Alternia is all about keeping groups sad and oppressed by their role on the caste, highblood or lowblood. This is all done in service to breed the True Signs, which would be people like Karkat or Gamzee or Feferi. Of course, THIS is all done so that the events of Homestuck can even take place, with each and every character in it (no matter how small their part is) being a cog in the machine to creating Lord English and perpetuate other dumb time loops. As such if your fanventure or the like doesn’t take place on Alternia or a troll planet under a similar caste system, you can PROBABLY disregard all this, though I would still look into how that planet’s society treats and raises its trolls.

Let’s start from the bottom: Rustbloods (burgundy-bloods...?). Rustbloods are overshadowed by the Time aspect. Time is the aspect of destruction and decay, but is also the aspect of work and labor. Oftentimes the Time player in a session is the resident busybody. Hence why Rustbloods are Alternia’s manual labor caste, and likely why they are the lowest on the spectrum.

Next is Bronzebloods. They mostly shadow the Breath aspect, which might not be readily apparent to most (it certainly wasnt to me). I think that this means that... Bronzebloods are raised to be expendable. Detached from their loved ones and treasured objects to be the main cavalry and footsoldiers in the war. This gives them the “freedom” of Breath, though it’s a sad and lonely freedom when you know that your life can be thrown away at any moment. Anyone would be resigned and detached at that point. <:B

Now Goldbloods seems to be the MOST obvious of the caste, or at least the secondmost. They are shadowed by Doom, and this is portrayed in them being used as living batteries for ships. Doom isn’t just about destruction. It’s about suffering, sacrifice, and unstable consumption. All of these fit the description of a person turned into a living battery. This also explains why most Doom-bound trolls are nihilists, or are severely pessimistic. You would be too if you knew you’d be a battery.

Limebloods seems to be the gray (hehe) area, as their true sign’s aspect shows as Blood. It’s possible that this represents 1. That there are meant to be no intense, caring bonds on Alternian society (hence why Karkat was a Knight of blood: even his planet lacked bonds and care) or 2. That a limeblood can ONLY survive through strong bonds and friendships (again, Karkat). Either way, we haven’t seen any official limebloods (that out themselves as limebloods) and so we don’t know how they would be “raised”.

Olive Bloods are shadowed under the Heart aspect. While Olive bloods don’t really have a set or concrete role in Alternia’s society, this actually fits Heart perfectly. Heart is all about individuality and uniqueness! Of course the caste that fits Heart wouldn’t really be able to be pegged down as a single role.

Jadebloods: Ghost Space. This is seen pretty clearly when they are in charge of the creation and perpetuation of lil troll babies. They’re even banished to an entirely separate part of Alternia, which fits Space’s  intense loneliness. You might be thinking that Life would be a better fit for them, as they ARE creating Life. However, Life is more of an aspect of improving and bettering what is already there. SPACE is the aspect of creation, and as such why they are set to create life.

The most obvious one by far is the Tealbloods. They ghost Mind, as they stand in for Alternia’s entire legal division. They judge, prosecute, and defend the CHOICES of others and alter the CHOICE their jury makes. Mind is also just flat out about strategy and intelligence, which a lot of Tealbloods are known to have.

Cerulean/Bluebloods are shadowed under the Light aspect. I kind of see this as them being technically highbloods, and thus have access to enormous wealth and fame. This would of course breed Light’s sometimes outwardly pompous attitude.

Indigobloods fit into the Void aspect as their True Aspect. This kind of makes sense, as the Indigobloods main job is to perpetuate Alternia’s caste system, and fit well into whatever role they ARE given. They are “nothing” until they are given a role and a purpose, which Alternia forces on them. Them “being” nothing/void is what would eventually lead to Equius, an Heir of Void.

Purplebloods naturally are surrounded by Rage, being negative emotions and confusion. What illicits more negative emotions and pure confusion than clowns? Not only that, but their sheer strength and focus on violence also fits into Rage, which is often linked to physical harm. They also perpetuate these negative emotions by being so oppressive on those who disobey Alternia’s law.

Violetbloods are... tricky. Their true sign says Hope, but... there isn’t even much to go on about them. We only have Cronus and Eridan, and their roles in alternian society aren’t explained besides being royalty. It’s entirely possible that this is the point: they’re just wealthy buttholes. Delusion and immense power are what encompass Hope, and oftentimes royalty are delusional fools with immense power. Of course, not as much power as...

Fuschiabloods. Fuschia’s true sign spells Life, and this is mostly seen in Feferi’s ideals. As said above, Life is all about betterment for what’s ALREADY there. Fuschiabloods are the ruling class, and NORMALLY would be expected to improve/continue ruling Alternia. One could even take it a step further and say that the Condesce killing off any possible opposing Fuschiabloods represents killing Life, too. Making sure that Alternia never gets better through a different ruler.

And that’s all the classes! I want to reiterate that you don’t HAVE to take these into consideration, even if you DO have your fantroll on Alternia. However, it’s always nice to think how its differing society has an effect on its people, and how the society basically acts as a shadow that each and every troll lives under and is expected to live up to.

[ghost-elevator]

ok so on the aspect wheel, mind and heart are opposites, and mutually equidistant to doom. therefore, you could argue that doom (and life, as its inverse) are the accompanying cardinal aspects that involve our perception and action methodology. life with growth, and doom with rules. therefore, the defining factor of how doom operates is how you perceive a set of rules, just as how growth is in part subjective to an individual. and knowing the doom-bound’s penchant for suffering in order to be a part of the cosmic fabric of the aspect web, having to figure out how the rules work in relation to your beliefs seems pretty doom-y, at least to me. anyways that’s my justification for why this originally non-homestuck song is 1, a homestuck song now, and 2, not a mind aspect theme.

[theorynexus]

That post which is 82nd in this series:

One: That is a very interesting effect.  Two: I’d like to know how many major constellations there are.  Three:  Oh my gosh, I think this might be the first chapter where the events of the previous one are directly followed up, after the prologue’s 3!

Indeed, John makes a wise distinction, here: this is one of the major factors which makes inter-personal connections potentially so powerful---  the chemistry between two (or more) people can combine to either heighten or eclipse the individual personality factors of the members of the group, and even actively encourage or suppress some behaviors/traits’ expression.   This can obviously mean that one person can balance or steady the other, which is why Moirallegiance is a powerful enough force to stop a murderous rampage (albeit the emotional instability of Gamzee and the fact that Karkat is the Knight of Blood probably made for unique circumstances to some extent), and why Auspisticism can prevent one from starting up in the first place.   It is also why idol groups and rock bands can make people go so crazy.   (Albeit people can be mad enough with infatuation for a character that they can look past the flaws and imperfections of individuals as well: thus the “best girl” nonsense of recent years.)

This story does not stop to try and make me look like an idiot by pointing out exactly what I was talking about as if it were supremely obvious, sometimes.  (Heh. Off the rails would be an interesting pun with Moirails, if intentional.)

This is an exaggeration almost to the point of being a lie, on Dave’s part, but I won’t hold it against him. It’s close enough to the truth, if held back a bit by the fact that it doesn’t begin to touch on some of the subtler nuances of things like the issue of romance not having to be excessively intimate in a physical manner, humans’ drives to worry about that possibility much of the time, and Jade’s interference with things.  Maybe he’ll bring these things up anyway~ Oh, also, there’s the whole “ten steps of figuring out you’re gay” according to Dave Strider, which eventually resulted in him figuring out that he was not so much a homosexual as bisexual in nature (with varying degrees of attraction to either men or women at different times).   But maybe he’s not quite at that point in this timeline, just as Roxy is still uncertain with her/their/his gender identity, as of now.   Maybe the lack of campaigning has allowed Jade to interfere with that development more?

Heh.   This brings up a very important fact, though:  sometimes, there are more important things than exploring one’s identity. When one’s responsibilities involve life and death circumstances, for instance, but also just in general.  While one’s sexual orientation and gender status together do represent big shares of what a person is/will be, life is about more than the (admittedly very important) quest to find resolution and acceptance of those aspects of one’s self.  This is one of the most useful lessons Homestuck can teach, honestly:      in the same way that reality has 12 aspects to keep in balance with one another, a person has just that sort of internal balance to consider: Blood and Heart concerns do not encompass everything one needs, and...  Time teaches me an important lesson, just now. I have to cut this post short in order to go to work.  So. ~~~ Edit:  My computer didn’t want me to post this this morning, but weirdly the moment I get home and click “post” again on a lark, it actually somehow did so.  WEIRDNESS!!!

[frogspects]

((so the draft I needed for the Lord of Space ask isn't working))

(ok so imma copy paste my lord definition because that makes more sense to me, if you want I can redefine it I guess?)

A lord becomes their aspect, embodying it. They can completely tear apart their aspect, and turn it into something new, the only boundaries being the small logic written behind each aspect. They are seemingly more aggressive with their powers, and are, indefinitely, Over Powered. They seem to not be as in touch with their logical takes on things until much later in their session, much to their dismay, as a shitty rein on too much can completely fuck up a session. Not exactly polite, they rule over others without a please or a thank you unless it gets them somewhere.

Space is creativity and drive. it is the class of creation and the creator of the genesis frog in most sessions. They guide the plot for whatever session they are in and do so whether they like it or not. they are artistic and passionate, but cannot just summon their creations (that's void’s ability!), since they drive the story, they tend to be able to move objects. Such as with Jade’s ability to move at light speed for the most part, and Calliope’s intelligence with aspects. The aspect of space is the most important in a session, as well as time, so they need to be intelligent and fast to work against the tide of plot relevance.

Together? Bam: The epitome of creativity. You are speed. You can create a plan and put it into action however the fuck you want. A planner and an inventor, you can make a play become a movie or an idea into a contraption. your art is something Van Gogh is jealous of and is something you should be more proud of. You help people with creating what you need, (if you want to help people) and you make masterpieces on a whim. Good job bro!

Hope that helps!

- Mod Damien

[bardofhopeclasspecting]

Hey, when you're ready. Can you tell us what a time player would have as personality traits? Since time and space feel more literal compared to the rest. Thanks for reading this when you do find the time

hey guys im back from hibernation! i finally have the time and spoons to get back into this!!

okay yes, what we see in canon with time players is, lots of sarcasm and snark. look at dave, thats his whole character, ESPECIALLY in the beginning of the comic. we can see dead aradia with lots of dry humor. (when equius said something along the lines of “dont roll your eyes at me,” she came back with “i dont have pupils” one of many golden lines from her.) damara is lots of snark. caliborn tries to be snarky, but ultimately sounds like a dumbass. theyre all hilarious in their own ways, whether its the way they intend to be or not. 

time players have some relationship with death or dead things. dave likes archaeology. aradia is dead and even before she died, she heard the voices of the dead since she was little. the dead very much has an effect in her daily life no matter what. when she was revived she spent her time in the bubbles helping the dead as she could. damara very much has a lot of plans to kill after rufioh broke her heart. its stated that she killed meenah. its also stated that when she went godtier, damara used her powers to show up at varying times and attempt to sabotage her teammates. and in the end, shes dead. they very obvious one for her association with death. caliborn is a blood thirsty motherfucker, lets be real. this dude just loves to kill. at the very least, cause minor inconvenience to people. 

its very talked about that time players have a connection to music. dave makes his sick beats and likes rapping. aradia has the planet of quartz and melody. damara has a planet that we dont know the name of, but is very similar to aradias. caliborn, from what i can remember, does not have a real connection to music. though, he does have a lot of creativity that he works hard to show. look at homosuck. it goes through several mediums and styles. 

with all this and my knowledge of the characters, i say that determination is a strong theme with time players. caliborn so determined to get his art to masterpiece level, and to finish his ultimate mission of being lord over everything. aradia existing as a ghost, then being the soulbot and going to the extreme of ripping her heart out because of equius trying to play her emotions, THEN her mission to held the dead once shes revived! damara is so fuckin determined to take her rage out on anyone. shes so full of anger after that heartbreak, that shes gotta spread that love in the form of bullets. 

theres also the intense interests they have. aradia used to love spelunking and looking for treasures before she died. when revived again, she was so intensely fixated on helping the dead. dave with his love of music, jokes, and archaeology. caliborn with his art. 

you can always put so much more into a time player. the four that we know are so wildly different from each other. go nuts.