#atsv jess

[gimpgompwompwomp]

He'll never learn 😔

[jumpingspiderwebs]

Spiderwoman was a bad character in ATSV

I really don’t care that she’s race swapped and whatever, that has nothing to do with this essay.

What we will talk about is how she’s an asshole, and doesn’t really deserved praise or recognition for her actions.

She fights crime while pregnant, presumably keeping the crime fighting a secret from her husband, which is a red flag on its own. She’d rather risk her own baby’s safety and wellbeing, just to be a superhero, not really caring of its health. You guys say that the baby is resilient, when literally Spider People take major damage and wince throughout the films. If people really praise her and call her “badass” and “supercool” for this selfish action, but criticize Peter B. for taking Mayday into danger when, MIND YOU, he chooses to stay away from danger, while Jess puts herself out in the danger, its saying something.

She’s also an asshole character to everyone but Miguel. A complete bitch towards Miles, asshole to Hobie, the worst mentor Gwen could ever ask for and she definitely regrets looking up to Jess, sassing Ben as if Miguel isn’t anymore broodier, sarcastically ignoring the Hijabi spider woman’s joke but gleefully making jokes with Miguel, and was down for Jeff’s death for protecting the canon.. And the kicker is that she knows that Miguel is wrong for what he does, but she’s too afraid to say anything against him. But she’s quick as fuck to yell or shut Gwen down for making mistakes.

Reminder that at the end of the film where Miguel tries to get Miles from the Go Home Machine, he rips through space and time and that almost caused all of them to die, thanks to the science of the frabic of reality being distributed. And she still stayed by that man’s side, when he almost killed everyone in that room.

And there are those who say she’s better than Miguel and Peter B. when WRONG! If anything, she’s just as bad as Miguel. She was also down for people to die for the canon, she showed no empathy or sympathy for Miles and hated him as well, and treated everyone there like soldiers with no respect or empathy whatsoever. Not to mention, she’s not afraid to get physical. Miles spider sense went off when she attacked him, meaning that she posed a threat. She meant to do harm to him. And her dumb fans will either glaze that or ignore that, but justify her behavior with Gwen.

And hot take, every Jess Drew fan that criticizes the fuck out of Gwen, but make her and Miguel look innocent, are definitely just Gwen haters in disguise because they don’t like her being white or for “betraying” Miles. And it’s funny because their fav treated Miles like absolute dog shit, and is a 30+ pregnant woman, a grown adult, treating 15-16 year olds like crap just because she can.

And I don’t if it’s just me, but she’s kind of anti-black. Every black character she was just not nice, welcoming, or even an ally too. Hated Miles, was against Hobie, was down for Jeff to die, and ignored Margo.

Even a little anti-feminist, seeing her relationship with Gwen shift. An absolute bitch of a mentor, telling Gwen to shut up when Gwen thanks her (Jess’ big ego mind you) but allow Miguel to rant to her whenever they’re alone probably.

I really don’t think she’s ready for motherhood, and I sure as hell don’t think she’s ready for redemption. She made her choice, and she better stay there. Miles and Gwen don’t got time for her nonsense, and that baby of hers definitely isn’t kicking, when the mom is busy doing all those flips and tricks and shit on that beat up motorcycle.

[honeybeeffdrawshere]

JD

[kairiscorner]

when i found out jess' va was president barbie i knew i had to make this.

that's because they're dreamhouses. – jessica drew fic

a/n: me? having a crush on issa rae and the characters she plays? nah ,,, ok maybe a little (◕ᴗ◕✿)

(reblogs are greatly appreciated, it helps get my content out there! if you guys like what you see, please reblog it too <:D)

jess was taking care of mayday since peter b was off handling some anomalies, she had the day off and had decided to spend it with her honorary niece, mayday. she had gifted the little one with a set of barbie dolls she found at a toy shop she passed by one day, and the infant was enthralled by how shiny, pretty, and pink the barbies were. she chewed on a few of them, almost shoved a barbie's head in her mouth, but jess prevented that from happening and showed her how she played with barbies as a young girl.

she taught mayday how to use the hairbrush, how to accessorize and dress her barbie up, and showed her the little dreamhouse she had as a young girl that she hoped mayday would play with. once mayday had gotten used to brushing the doll's hair and was starting to find it fun, jess smiled a little and played with her, making little scenarios with mayday and teaching her new words and introducing her to all kinds of barbies.

ben reilly walked by the room they were in and did a double take, stepping backwards and asked himself if he was really seeing this–jessica drew was playing barbie dolls with mayday. jessica drew, the no-nonsense co-leader of the spider society, was playing with barbie dolls. jess had noticed ben staring and looked at him with the smile faded from her face, she raised an eyebrow up at him. "can i help you?" she asked him as he tried to appear cool and unfazed. "yeah, um... why're you playing with dolls?" he asked her with an eyebrow raise of his own. "what? she likes them, i'll play with her if i want to." she answered him as she made her barbie bounce along with mayday's barbie, the two of them having a kind of wacky dance off together. jess' smile widened as they played together, with ben looking at the two of them incredulously. "no way are you playing... dollhouse with her." he said with slight envy in his tone.

jess looked at him, now slightly irritated at him for what he was insinuating. "one, it's a dreamhouse, motherfucker. two, yes way i am playing with her, she likes it, so we're playing it. and three... do you want to play, too?" she asked him as mayday giggled and reached for a beach ken doll, handing it to ben, who looked at the infant with bright eyes and a surprise face. he tried to resist it at first, but he gave in to his want–he really, really yearned to play with them. "okay, fine. just for a bit." he said as he sat down next to them and received the ken doll mayday handed him.

the two of them played together and acted out all sorts of scenarios with the barbies and ken they had, with ben being a little too overdramatic with their roleplays, but nonetheless, was a very fun experience for them all over all. when miguel came back to talk to jess and ben about a runaway anomaly, he stopped in his tracks and narrowed his eyes as he witness them... playing with barbies. "why are you guys playing dollhou–" "they're dreamhouses, motherfucker."

[snailwizards]

hey this is a comment about across the spiderverse and spidey senses so if you dont want spoilers scroll past!

The scene when Gwen leaves Miles to go to Mumbattan is really interesting to show that spidey senses have a degree of nuance. Note: I acknowledge most of this can probably be chalked up to storytelling and narrative reckoning, but the idea it's something deeper than a storytelling tool intrigues me.

For the most part, spidey senses warn the spiderperson about danger before it hits—similar to a sixth sense. But we also know that it can trigger it the spiderperson has a certain person/persons that they are being cautious around/on guard around.

For example when Miles is late to his dad's promotion party: his senses go off in the direction of his parents when he's sneaking around to avoid being seen and caught. Another example would be when Gwen is hiding in Miles's room and realises that he's in the wrong dimension. She's mentally on guard to figure out where Miles has gone and is keeping her focus trained on that. Now the senses aren't strictly for whatever the spiderperson's on guard/focused on because we know it's gone off randomly when the spiderpeople met each other and attuned.

However, the spidey senses don't seem to go off for when Miles is sneaking behind Gwen when she's leaving for Mumbattan. She doesn't sense him literally inches away from her despite that being a perfectly reasonable time for the sixth sense feature to kick in that she's being watched. Whilst this could be summed up to being about the drama and the tension, I like to think there's something deeper here. Gwen feels safe around Miles.

Let's go back to some key moments when spidey senses have gone off: when Miles was about to be crushed by flying debris (several occurances), when a spider person notices that someone they love is in danger (Miles and Gwen with their dads), and when the spiderpeople meet.

The first of these is pretty straightforward: self-preservation. Miles's senses go off because he's about to die. Cool. He needed to be alerted of a danger before it could harm him, and it was something he couldn't see or tell was happening. I'm coming back to this point later.

The second example is emotional preservation. The senses go off because they need to save their fathers otherwise emotionally they'd collapse. I could write a whole thing about this but we'll shelf that for another day.

The last example is what I can only figure to be mental affinity. These are people who individually share very similar stories and morals and ~ vibes ~ with. They don't show Miles having this trigger in the Numerous other spiderpeople he encounters.

My curiousity comes when the spidey senses don't trigger for when Miles is so close to Gwen and following her, but how Jess stated that she knew he was with Gwen at the portal. I think, fundamentally, it comes down to the fact that Gwen doesn't see Miles as a danger. There's no need to alert her of him following her or being inches away from her because he would never intentially cause her harm. This is contrasted to when Gwen's dad pulls a gun on her and her senses activate. Her dad becomes a danger to her emotional, mental, and physical safety because he is afraid of her.

To Gwen, Miles is safety. Both physically, emotionally, and mentally. Her spidey senses have no reason to alert her of him because she has no reason to be alerted by him.

Jess, however, does have reason to be alerted about his presence. But that idea I think can stand on its own, and I mainly wanted to make this post about Gwen and Miles.

So... yeah.

[gummycube]

Jesssss

[shypervydolly]

Imagine if Jess goes into labor during a fight in Beyond The Spider-Verse and she’s just stuck with Ben and his himbo ass trying to help her through it lmao